GameFAQs Contests

People are asking me in private to make a new stats topic with a neutral first post, so here you go. People can save their Ocarina gloating for tomorrow and leave it out of spamming the opening post, thanks :D




~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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Heading to a 1000 vote lead already.
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From: paulg235 | Posted: 6/8/2009 12:36:23 AM | #002
Heading to a 1000 vote lead already.

IT'S OVER. I closed the poll results tab 15 minutes ago.
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This result is hilarious because now we'll get insanely long Vlado speeches, far more whining than we would if 7 won about how this is the true end of diversity (for endings) and the anti-nintendo people, especially jp and hippo, will go off the walls. Add in a little MWC gloating and the board will be an absolute mess for a good week until we go back to the superior off season.

Palmer is so right.
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Yeah, I gotta admit that Vlado`s reaction is something I`m interested in seeing too.
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I'm not gonna go off the walls. But I won't say I'm pleased with this result either. I've already made that point in the last topic, however.
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From: Gaddswell | Posted: 6/8/2009 12:41:12 AM | #010
Yeah, I gotta admit that Vlado`s reaction is something I`m interested in seeing too.

like I'm serious I wonder just how many essays we're gonna get...
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From: Heroic Hyatt | Posted: 6/8/2009 12:42:04 AM | #012
I'm not gonna go off the walls. But I won't say I'm pleased with this result either. I've already made that point in the last topic, however.

then I know Hippo will if you don't, jp. I mean you're already more chill than you were in the past as is, but damn, today's match is an allstar matchup so I'm happy either way, but epic Vlado speeches and MWC speeches = hilarious board for a good week.
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Oh, well. TF2 anyone?
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Zelda will probably lead by 2500 votes or so come 3 a.m. FF7 will probably do something there, before ultimately losing.
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Vlado-related stuff is old. The kid's gimmick is as stale as it gets. What he needs to do is take some time off and get more creative.

Anyways, while I am surprised by how this contest went, I'll be happy when it's over. The whining just gets tiresome after awhile.

doesn't mean it won't attract mass chaos, which is my point
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Good thing I'm drunk right now. FFVII hasn't won a real contest since 2004. Honestly, this is scikening.
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Anywho, is it too early to ask everyone what was the most surprising entrant in the contest?

Why are there two 748 topics?
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because meeks sucks and ulti is way better
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Most surprising entrant? I'd say Pokemon R/B/Y. At least I was surprised, by it.
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MWC wants some attention, jp.

Hey, Ulti. You realize of course that this makes MGS4 look even stronger, yes?

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From: hochiminhX | Posted: 6/8/2009 12:56:14 AM | #020
Good thing I'm drunk right now. FFVII hasn't won a real contest since 2004. Honestly, this is scikening.

lol you, as usual.

yea definitely RBY
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RBY, obviously.

Second?
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Second, Diablo II LoD.

You never hear anyone on this site talk about it outside the D2 boards.
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From: hochiminhX | Posted: 6/8/2009 12:59:17 AM | #023
because meeks sucks and ulti is way better

Well, hochi gave this topic the seal of approval. Looks like we're using this one after all =p
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 6/8/2009 1:00:44 AM | #026
Hey, Ulti. You realize of course that this makes MGS4 look even stronger, yes?

Given MGS4 is an awesome game, fine by me.
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Is it wrong that I think Zelda 2 is way more fun than OoT?
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FINALLY a stall.
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From: Heroic Hyatt | Posted: 6/8/2009 1:10:45 AM | #032
Is it wrong that I think Zelda 2 is way more fun than OoT?

Zelda 2 is pretty much the most underrated game of all time.
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Zelda 2 is pretty much the most underrated game of all time.

Which is all the more comical when you consider that OoT is the most overrated game.
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From: Heroic Hyatt | Posted: 6/8/2009 1:12:40 AM | #035
Zelda 2 is pretty much the most underrated game of all time.

Which is all the more comical when you consider that OoT is the most overrated game.

OOT is just LTTP rendered in 3D, so it's rated fine.
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I just noticed it was only a 9 vote gain. Sweet.
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Link's Awakening is the most underrated Zelda, imo.

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So then what's the most overrated game?
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 6/8/2009 1:14:02 AM | #038
Link's Awakening is the most underrated Zelda, imo.

Bull.
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It at least made this contest and won twice.
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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 6/8/2009 1:18:37 AM | #043
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Wimp.
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There's only one thing that can truly salvage this depressing night now.

Ramen.
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Wimp.

Thought better of it.

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From: Lucid Faia | Posted: 6/8/2009 1:20:48 AM | #046
Wimp.

Thought better of it.

Even worse.
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I hope FF7 comes back and wins with ease. **** NintendoFAQs.
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But...it's ramen... ;_;
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