GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 747
Meeks54 | Posted 6/7/2009 11:56:41 AM | message detail |
Like it was ever going to come down to anything else. The Legend of Zelda vs Final Fantasy. Welcome to SquaretendoFAQs. Let the Epic Commence. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK??? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 11:57:28 AM | message detail |
darn it --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 11:58:55 AM | message detail |
1990s Nintendo and Square >>>>> All other video game companies --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
KingBartz | Posted 6/7/2009 11:59:41 AM | message detail |
If only OoT and FFVII had been on the same half of the bracket, we might be seeing something else. --- Check out my Guru bracket: http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=60 GURU STATUS: Eliminated |
ObscureMammoth | Posted 6/7/2009 12:01:22 PM | message detail |
From: KingBartz | #004 No they would have just dominated everything and gone 1-2. --- PNess SSBB FC - 2835-9755-3785 Vlado..thank god...another voice of sanity in this madhouse... - RealMarchhare |
Scott_Pilgrim | Posted 6/7/2009 12:01:56 PM | message detail |
If only OoT and FFVII had been on the same half of the bracket, we might be seeing something else. Then we would've just seen FFVII > OoT or vice versa in every single round, including the finals. --- Oh, sorry, I got distracted by FastFalcon. http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=169 |
Meeks54 | Posted 6/7/2009 12:02:04 PM | message detail |
From: KingBartz | #004 But why should we? We were robbed of these 2 in the final last time thanks to CeeJ, now we finally get what we so rightfully deserve. The top 2 to meet on the grandest stage. Both bring their second strongest game as well. --- DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK??? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 12:04:11 PM | message detail |
If
FFVII and OoT had been on the same side of the bracket, then the finals
would be a complete waste of time because we already know what's going
to happen. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 6/7/2009 12:05:56 PM | message detail |
They should not have done "generations" But "series". The best Zelda..the Best FF the Best MGS etc... And then all come down to the ultimate showdown of the best games from the best series. Of course it would lead to 7 vs oot but in a much more Epic way. --- Playing: Star Ocean: TLH | Ninja Gaiden Black | Ar tonelico II Favourite game ever - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/7/2009 1:23:29 PM | message detail |
Would have been nice for a cookie bracket to fail, tbh --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 6/7/2009 1:39:01 PM | message detail |
IMO,
the contest would be most fun with 1v1, no generation rules, no
seeding, but with FFVII and OoT retired. On the other hand, I do kind
of like seeing games from the late 90s dominate everything so greatly.
Makes me wonder how long they have left at the top of the tree. --- http://www.philosophynow.org/issue58/58kirby.htm Currently playing: Persona 3 FES |
Ultimaphazon | Posted 6/7/2009 1:43:26 PM | message detail |
I
don't really mind the fourways because many of my favorite games would
never be present if this was a 1v1 contest, and thus only 64 games. But
generations really need to die. That was my opinion before this contest
started, and I stick with it. --- A pro isn't someone who sacrifices himself for his job. That's just a fool. - Reno, FFVII |
Gaddswell | Posted 6/7/2009 8:57:05 PM | message detail |
Time for this! --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/7/2009 8:57:19 PM | message detail |
Two months of a relatively blah contest. How awesome would it be if our big two salvaged it. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 8:57:20 PM | message detail |
A match so big it requires a 747! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Meeks54 | Posted 6/7/2009 8:57:22 PM | message detail |
Who said we could not finish the other topic in 15 minutes? --- DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK??? |
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 6/7/2009 8:57:23 PM | message detail |
Just a few minutes left. --- Shall I take you with me? To the place in this town where wishes come true... |
BDawg | Posted 6/7/2009 8:57:31 PM | message detail |
Hahaha my bidding was done that is one full thread. --- Should I start running now? |
ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 8:57:35 PM | message detail |
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7447/hypetrain.gif all aboard --- There ain't no gettin' offa this train we're on |
Mr3790 | Posted 6/7/2009 8:57:38 PM | message detail |
The final battle Begins! ...in three minutes. --- AC:WW Code: Name:Mr.378 Town:Darkcity FC: 4210-5769-8462 GENO WHIRL! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/7/2009 8:57:57 PM | message detail |
-gets his FFVII OST ready- lets do this --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
Meeks54 | Posted 6/7/2009 8:57:58 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #015 I was THIS CLOSE to putting some variation of that. But decided to just go with the one on one mantra between the big 2 instead. --- DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK??? |
transience | Posted 6/7/2009 8:58:12 PM | message detail |
this
contest was nothing more than a testing ground for FF7 and OOT. this is
true of other contests too but it never felt so hopeless as this one
did. let's hope they can explode here. --- xyzzy http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/7/2009 8:58:29 PM | message detail |
Ocarina fans, mandatory! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMN0wRP0ZN4 --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
eaglesarebeasts | Posted 6/7/2009 8:58:35 PM | message detail |
It starts... |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/7/2009 8:58:44 PM | message detail |
stop letting this guy make topics tbqh --- I'm gonna keep on going, I know I'll be strong. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
Meeks54 | Posted 6/7/2009 8:58:47 PM | message detail |
From: transience | #023 The one upsmanship comes to fruition tonight. --- DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK??? |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/7/2009 8:59:05 PM | message detail |
Though I'm voting FF7, I do how Team Nintendo beats Team Square here. =) --- BT > Harrich lol me |
RockMFR 5 | Posted 6/7/2009 8:59:10 PM | message detail |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTUfdwBPQfY --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 |
creativename | Posted 6/7/2009 8:59:22 PM | message detail |
I like that pic with the swords. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Xcarvenger | Posted 6/7/2009 8:59:29 PM | message detail |
Time for OoT to never lead and subsequently get blown out by a margin of 5000 votes --- www.board8.wikia.com ~ The definitive source of GFAQs Contests Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/7/2009 8:59:29 PM | message detail |
I hope FF7 wins. Ocarina is good, but it's not half the game FF7 is. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
hochiminhX | Posted 6/7/2009 8:59:34 PM | message detail |
Ocarina of Time is the United States. FFVII is Vietnam. --- I will bury you. |
BDawg | Posted 6/7/2009 8:59:39 PM | message detail |
Epic battol or jobber match to end jobber contest? --- Should I start running now? |
KrahenProphet | Posted 6/7/2009 8:59:47 PM | message detail |
I hope OoT wins... |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/7/2009 8:59:58 PM | message detail |
Who cares, both games suck. --- Wylvane's current main account. |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:06 PM | message detail |
FINAL FANTASY VII LET'S DO THIS!!! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
Master Moltar | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:15 PM | message detail |
Final Fantasy VII 25% 2 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 50% 4 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 25% 2 Final Fantasy X 0% 0 TOTAL VOTES 8 let's go --- Moltar Status: storm of loyalty Match 63 - Bracket: FF7 > OoT - Vote: OoT (503/640) |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:15 PM | message detail |
Vote Accepted Final Fantasy VII 23.08% 6 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 15.38% 4 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 30.77% 8 Final Fantasy X 30.77% 8 TOTAL VOTES 26 END THE POLL --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Gaddswell | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:18 PM | message detail |
Final Fantasy VII 25% 4 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 25% 4 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 37.5% 6 Final Fantasy X 12.5% 2 TOTAL VOTES 16 IT BEGINS --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:21 PM | message detail |
Final Fantasy VII 23.08% 18 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 10.26% 8 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 38.46% 30 Final Fantasy X 28.21% 22 TOTAL VOTES 78 --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
Janus5000 | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:24 PM | message detail |
Vote Accepted Final Fantasy VII 22.73% 5 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 18.18% 4 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 31.82% 7 Final Fantasy X 27.27% 6 TOTAL VOTES 22 FFVII getting rSFFed aww yeah --- http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/HowDisturbing/stayawhile.jpg Stay a while and breathe me in. |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:24 PM | message detail |
lmao --- Wylvane's current main account. |
Mr3790 | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:25 PM | message detail |
Final Fantasy VII 27.91% 12 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 11.63% 5 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 34.88% 15 Final Fantasy X 25.58% 11 TOTAL VOTES 43 OoT! --- AC:WW Code: Name:Mr.378 Town:Darkcity FC: 4210-5769-8462 GENO WHIRL! |
transience | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:28 PM | message detail |
aw yeah it's getting killed --- xyzzy http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg |
Xcarvenger | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:29 PM | message detail |
Final Fantasy VII 33.33% 2 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 66.67% 4 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 0% 0 Final Fantasy X 0% 0 TOTAL VOTES 6 OoT 'owned' --- www.board8.wikia.com ~ The definitive source of GFAQs Contests Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity |
paulg235 | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:32 PM | message detail |
Final Fantasy VII 24.65% 35 The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 13.38% 19 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 42.25% 60 Final Fantasy X 19.72% 28 TOTAL VOTES 142 Early days, early days. --- The Gamer In Me I've lost the guru. How? I don't know (lol). |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:36 PM | message detail |
ff7s board vote never disappoints --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
RPGuy96 | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:38 PM | message detail |
Early vote got Ocarina'd Poor LttP --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 9:00:42 PM | message detail |
Yep, here goes OoT. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |