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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 746

ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:20:13 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 6/7/2009 10:18:54 PM | #397
Don't even act like you care about pleasing anyone with your pics, Zen!


uhhh I made this one with a "very generic" in mind so you guys couldn't complain. removing the red was the only thing I did extra at all.

I guess next time I shouldn't remove the red and make it look like all the others...? I don't see the point in making pics then.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:21:19 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | Posted: 6/7/2009 10:19:41 PM | #400
lens flare says what's up

and whatever it is you used (gradient overlay?) to make the characters have a blue-ish tint. i'm not sure what the red thing is at the bottom, so i'll cut you some slack there. could've done without the dates, too !


IT'S NOT A FILTER FFFFFFF

GROUP THE LAYERS > DOUBLE CLICK > UNCLICK "R"

GRADIENTS ARE DIFFERENT

grrrrrr i am mad you can tell I am mad because of the CAPS
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/7/2009 7:21:21 PM | message detail
Can we not be so defensive every time someone doesn't like a pic. I mean come on.
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transience | Posted 6/7/2009 7:21:51 PM | message detail
haha, Zen gets so touchy over his pictures

let's do this
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:22:44 PM | message detail
oh and the "Red thing" is actually pretty cool IMO, because if you remove the red from the characters then the white in the backdrop seems to become red when it goes through them somehow

I have no idea how it works but I think that's cool.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:24:03 PM | message detail
I'm actually not all that pissed anymore because I took time to reflect over Atlas Hale and decided to never do anything like that

and you guys don't seem to not like today's pic, just don't like the fact that I removed the red

which is OK

I guess I'll stop removing red!

maybe I'll remove green next time
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 7:24:36 PM | message detail
I don't see the point in making pics then.

Not every pic requires something like that. Xuxon's pic is awesome and simple at the same time.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/7/2009 7:24:39 PM | message detail
*looks at pics*

Oh man, someone took the advice to heart. I see 2x Smilin' Tidus and 3x Uncool LttP Link. These raw stats will be the best we've ever had.

FFVII - 50%
OoT - 49%
#3 - 22%
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ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 7:24:45 PM | message detail
Here's a protip: don't make your pics so busy!

(time for more caps)

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/7/2009 7:25:53 PM | message detail
I did the 1st pic, and I copy/pasted the LTTP and FFX art directly from the pics you supplied, yoblazer!

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BDawg | Posted 6/7/2009 7:26:09 PM | message detail
I don't blame anybody, there's no way four way pics can ever match the epicness of a solid 1v1.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/7/2009 7:26:28 PM | message detail
I liked Zen's picture. Probably one of his better ones.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:28:19 PM | message detail
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/chief.jpg
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/chiefnored.jpg
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/chiefnoblue.jpg
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/chiefnogreen.jpg
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/chiefnogreenblue.jpg

That's actually pretty cool. I gotta use this for something someday. Maybe if I get characters that are all green I can remove it or something... Or maybe not. Eh.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:30:10 PM | message detail
oh wow, I just realized we did get a large helping of smilin' Tidus. Better than smilin' Squall yeah, but I don't think many people know that "serious tidus" exists. KP didn't. He thought it was brand new Dissidia art when he first saw it.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/7/2009 7:33:43 PM | message detail
*smiles at everyone*

*like Tidus*
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 6/7/2009 7:35:04 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-63-4.jpg

The pic's okay, but what's with the red stuff at the bottom? It seems to just make the Zelda logos harder to read.
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ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 7:35:48 PM | message detail
who else is ready for some FFVII domination I know I am

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/7/2009 7:36:38 PM | message detail
*uses a Phoenix Down on the train*

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/7/2009 7:36:54 PM | message detail
Looking forward to some colossal OoT opening vote lead
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BDawg | Posted 6/7/2009 7:36:54 PM | message detail
Who wants red stuff when you can have Sunny D! Yeah old commercial reference in the house.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 7:37:26 PM | message detail
Looking forward to FFVII winning at the freeze
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:37:50 PM | message detail
I had no control over the red stuff, it just appears when you remove the red from a picture.

It's sunlight seen through a greenblue filter I believe. SCIENCE!
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ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 7:38:09 PM | message detail
Leon knows what's up

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red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 7:38:46 PM | message detail
For once, looking forward to a 40-30-20-10 match. Not that this has much chance of happening!
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BDawg | Posted 6/7/2009 7:40:22 PM | message detail
Sounds to me like FF7 train is overloaded. Derailment imminent.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/7/2009 7:40:46 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: FF7 is winning at the freeze, but loses the match.

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ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 7:41:19 PM | message detail
derailment no chance this train can fly

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 7:41:24 PM | message detail
BOLTALIC PREDICTION: OoT ends up closer to Final Fantasy X than to Final Fantasy VII!

Oh yes.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 7:42:55 PM | message detail
Uh.....50/20/20/10 match ok let's do this.
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ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 7:44:03 PM | message detail
55/21/14/10 book it

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/7/2009 7:44:47 PM | message detail
And don't think that that can't happen! I have a feeling FF7 is going to be seeing some big support at the start, and everyone here will be freaking out.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 7:46:24 PM | message detail
I'm not sure either game gets disproportionate support. It seems the board is split on who it wants to win.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/7/2009 7:50:37 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/detail.php?board=8&topic=49863086&message=546826608

Yeah. I don't think the board vote is going to be some OoT romp in the slightest.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/7/2009 7:55:20 PM | message detail
ff7 is gonna win this easy
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/7/2009 7:55:40 PM | message detail
Match LXIII: Final Fantasy VII vs. LoZ: A Link to the Past vs. LoZ: Ocarina of Time vs. Final Fantasy X

Last Round:

Final Fantasy VII – 44.77%
LoZ: A Link to the Past – 23.65%
Super Mario World – 16.17%
Super Mario Bros. 3 – 15.41%

LoZ: Ocarina of Time – 41.00%*
Final Fantasy X – 21.70%*
Metal Gear Solid 4 – 19.80%*
Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 17.60%*

*estimate, on-going match

Analysis

Well here we are; the final match of the contest. For the last two months we’ve been voting for what we thought was the best game ever and for the first time since the series contest we have all the entrants here being the consensus. While this may be four-ways this battle is going to be between the two games that dominated the entire bracket while the other two will more or less become spectators.

At the beginning of today’s match I thought Metal Gear Solid 4 was going to be here, but Final Fantasy X managed to take control of the night and morning to win this match, its award, last place in the finals. Final Fantasy X is probably the weakest between the four entrants and of course it has Final Fantasy VII to deal with. The game is going to be crushed here as many Final Fantasy fans abandon it to give Final Fantasy VII a chance at winning.

The same can be said about A Link to the Past except replace Final Fantasy VII with Ocarina of Time. However the game will fare better than Final Fantasy X. Not only is it stronger, but the rift between it and Ocarina of Time is much larger than between Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy VII so Link to the Past fans will be too stubborn to vote for Ocarina of Time.

LoZ: Ocarina of Time may have dominated the bottom half and looked really good at taking the title during the beginning rounds, but it will fall just short at taking the title. The final few rounds Ocarina of Time didn’t look as dominant as Final Fantasy VII. The interesting thing about these two games is that they have almost opposite trends so even if one game builds a giant lead we could see somewhat of a comeback attempt. I wouldn’t say Ocarina of Time has no chance, but the chances are low.

Final Fantasy VII is ready to kick ass and take names. For the entire contest this game has been crushing opponent after opponent. The game has been very dominant that as it stands only one game will be able to break 40% and that is Ocarina of Time. At first I was a bit worried during its first two rounds, but as the contest wore on the game has been looking better and better. A reason that may be is for the last couple of rounds Final Fantasy VII has been greeted by mostly Nintendo games and could have thus given a false perception on its strength. I would expect that Final Fantasy VII would win in a one vs. one match and with Link to the Past I think it will take it rather easily despite Final Fantasy X being in the same poll.

It’s been a great contest with many upsets and flops along the way. It may have been a bore that we got a predictable semi-final and final, but that doesn’t change the fact that many of the early rounds were interesting to watch. While many people want a one vs. one poll between Final Fantasy VII and Ocarina of Time I think that will be a bad idea in the off-chance that those results are reversed compare to the final match thus rendering this entire contest as useless.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Final Fantasy VII > LoZ: Ocarina of Time

charmander6000’s Prediction: Final Fantasy VII – 40.62%, LoZ: Ocarina of Time – 35.82%, LoZ: A Link to the Past – 13.83%, Final Fantasy X – 9.73%

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transience | Posted 6/7/2009 7:55:51 PM | message detail
board vote != early vote. we've seen countless examples of this.

I don't know what to make of the early voting though.. how big of a lead after 5 minutes can OOT get before you worry about it winning? it could take a 50 vote lead and I'd favour FF7, but if it's 100 I'll get really worried.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 7:58:07 PM | message detail
I'm thinking OOT probably goes up the second update, and FFVII might not end the power hour that much higher than where it is after the first 5 minutes. It really doesn't matter too much though- if FFVII is stronger it will win regardless of trends.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:58:11 PM | message detail
Boldest Prediction: All Bold Predictions mentioned in this topic come true.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/7/2009 7:58:37 PM | message detail
Bold Prediction: The final fails to break 140000 votes.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 7:59:12 PM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/7/2009 7:59:22 PM | message detail
OoT needs at least a 100 vote lead at the freeze for anyone feel it has a tiny bit of a chance
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 8:00:18 PM | message detail
3 AM is probably too early. If FFVII can get the lead by 4 AM, I'd say it's the favorite.
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PiGuy96 | Posted 6/7/2009 8:01:18 PM | message detail
I dunno about calling it for Ocarina, I'd be very wary about doing so. But in Cloud/Snake II, before Snake had super frontloaded trends (and consequently before his early vote was miles better than his day vote), Snake managed a lead of 121 and went on to win it. So I'd feel pretty comfortable if Ocarina had a lead of 100 at the freeze, but even then I wouldn't want to call it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 8:01:36 PM | message detail
OOT hits 41% and......

FFX's current percentage on OOT with Brawl in the poll: 34.55%
LTTP's percentage on FFVII yesterday with 2 Marios in the poll: 34.56%

Mission accomplished, OOT!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/7/2009 8:01:45 PM | message detail
I have no idea what to make of the board vote. FFVII's is still bad, which tells me Ocarina should take it without much trouble, but this is the biggest of big match atmospheres we've had since 2006, so they could just start 50/50 right out of the gate, who knows. Speaking of our 2006 final, though...

Zelda had 57% at the five minute mark. If Ocarina starts with that kind of relative percentage today, you're going to see a lot of gg posts early.
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transience | Posted 6/7/2009 8:02:02 PM | message detail
if it takes FF7 til 4am to get the lead it's in a world of hurt.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/7/2009 8:03:55 PM | message detail
Legend of Zelda started out at 57.16% in the Series Contest final:

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2455&num=2

It ended with 50.99%. Just to get an idea of what the board vote might look like. Also, it wasn't until about 3 AM that Final Fantasy was making consecutive cuts into LoZ's lead.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/7/2009 8:04:13 PM | message detail
Yeah, that would give FFVII a paltry two hours to build its lead before the morning vote. Ocarina should come back from that comfortably.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/7/2009 8:04:29 PM | message detail
Yeah, FF7 need to get the lead early on and tear up the night, because once the sun rises it's going to be fighting a losing battle.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 6/7/2009 8:04:47 PM | message detail
BOLD PREDICTION: The 'real' battle will be between LttP and FFX.

BOLDER PREDICTION: Team FF > Team Zelda
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