GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 746
hochiminhX | Posted 6/7/2009 5:56:10 PM | message detail |
The
problem with RBY and with Pokemon in general is that they do terrible
in 1vs1 settings. That's because while Pokemon has a strong loyal
fanbase, the majority of the site doesn't really care about it. This is
why Pikachu did badly 1vs1 but great in a four-way. Same with Pokemon.
I mean, it lost to Metroid in the series contest and that was fairly recently. --- I will bury you. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 5:59:48 PM | message detail |
We haven't seen Pokemon in a one-on-one setting since 2003
(No, Nidoran F doesn't count), so it's hard to say they do terrible in
one-on-one settings. Yeah, there was that match against Metroid, but
the Series Contest seems like an isolated incident at this point. I'd like to see Pikachu face someone like Knuckles and see how that goes. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
paulg235 | Posted 6/7/2009 6:01:35 PM | message detail |
In
Pokemon's defense, it did 47-53 Metroid, and Metroid was SFF'ed to
death by Zelda in the following round. Sure, I'll agree that Pokemon
does better in 4-ways, but it would perform a hell of a lot better
nowadays. For one thing, Pikachu would defeat Fox. --- The Gamer In Me I've lost the guru. How? I don't know (lol). |
nostalgic_git | Posted 6/7/2009 6:02:02 PM | message detail |
My money's on FFVII for overall winner - it would be my 'best game ever' as well. |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 6:03:02 PM | message detail |
Not lookin' like that's gonna happen. I don't know about that. OOT's only 0.14% away right now, it gained 0.14% on FFX the past hour, and there's still 3 hours to go. This second night vote so far hasn't seem to have changed much of anything regarding OOT's percentage of incoming votes. So...FFX vs. TP: Who you got? FFX, but without much confidence. FFX vs. MGS? MGS, but again, this should be close and FFX could pull it off. TP vs. MGS? MGS Brawl vs. Melee? Melee, kind of on principle more than anything else at this point. Objectively, they're probably about equal in strength. 1. Final Fantasy VII 2. Ocarina of Time 3. A Link to the Past 4. Super Mario 64 5. Chrono Trigger 6. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow 7. Super Mario World 8. Super Mario Bros. 3 9. Super Smash Bros. Melee 10. Super Smash Bros. Brawl --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
hochiminhX | Posted 6/7/2009 6:04:06 PM | message detail |
I
think the FF fanbase is smarter than the Nintendo fanase. They knew to
abandon Sephiroth when Cloud was in trouble. The Nintendo fanbase
failed to abort TP when Brawl was in trouble against MGS4. --- I will bury you. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 6:04:18 PM | message detail |
The
thing that ticks me off about this contest is that we came into this
contest expecting to get a lot of answers. Well, we did, but now we
probably end the contest with just as many questions as last time. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/7/2009 6:05:00 PM | message detail |
Seems
kind of weird to me to put TP(A game that showed it would struggle with
RE4 besides that 1 match out of 3) on the same level as a game that
beat RE4 57-43 in match with no reason for an overperformance. --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 6:05:47 PM | message detail |
But yet TP did better on Brawl than MGS4 did, and I don't know why Brawl does better against TP indirectly. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 6:07:28 PM | message detail |
That
happens with every 4-way contest. At least it looks like we will get a
more or less fair match between FFVII and OOT, which will be at least
far better than the last two finals in determining our #1. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 6:14:47 PM | message detail |
Seems
kind of weird to me to put TP(A game that showed it would struggle with
RE4 besides that 1 match out of 3) on the same level as a game that
beat RE4 57-43 in match with no reason for an overperformance. It was only 55-45, but that is weird indeed. It seems pretty clear to me that Brawl overperformed by a sizable amount on MGS4 in the division final, but that still doesn't solve this puzzle with TP and MGS4. Maybe TP/KH LFF is real? --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/7/2009 6:16:35 PM | message detail |
Even
if TP/KH LFF were real, that wouldn't explain how round 1 KH2 lost to
RE4 and KH2 managed 48% on TP. Even with LFF, that shouldn't give a
reason for KH2 itself to overperform on TP --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/7/2009 6:18:27 PM | message detail |
Unless
you want to throw RE4 and TP LFF into the mix as well. But then RE4
should have lost to KH2 in the second round. But then you can explain
it with Gears of War/RE4 LFF! And then... and then... --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 6:19:35 PM | message detail |
It's like the Bowser/Yoshi/Luigi group. Never made any sense at all. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/7/2009 6:22:38 PM | message detail |
I'd
like to see some favorite game in the series polls (at least for Smash
and MGS, and probably Mario as well). We can do a round of those and
skip the "Got X Console" polls, which we run like twice a year anyway. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
RPGuy96 | Posted 6/7/2009 6:22:56 PM | message detail |
Obvious Twilight Princess/Half-Life 2 silent protagonist LFF if you ask me. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/7/2009 6:25:56 PM | message detail |
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/7/2009 6:27:15 PM | message detail |
Honestly,
the simplest answer may be to simply throw out Brawl's 58% performance
on MGS4. Weird but... it's not ridiculous. CoD4 did drop like 8% going
into that match from the last one. I mean yeah, Galaxy was in the
previous poll. but with how badly Galaxy was getting slaughtered by
SSBB, it's hard to see it being there making SSBB performing 8% worse.
Giving ALL of Galaxy's votes to Brawl would be what is pretty much
required for CoD4 to drop that much And let's not forget GTA4 dropping 5% AFTER Galaxy gets added to the poll. That just sounds ridiculous. I think Brawl is the culprit here in this nonsensical stats play --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/7/2009 6:30:12 PM | message detail |
I think this format is the culprit, myself. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/7/2009 6:32:13 PM | message detail |
Blaming everything on Brawl would make Ulti pretty happy though --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 6:33:11 PM | message detail |
No,
Brawl is to blame for everything. Why do you think we have 4-ways? It's
because Nintendo tried to make sure 1v1s are unfun in Brawl. Notice how
we didn't change formats until Brawl hype became big, and now that it's
actually come out and all our worst fears came true, Bacon wants to
continue 4-ways indefinitely. When in doubt, blame Brawl. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/7/2009 6:35:27 PM | message detail |
Post of the contest. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 6:38:46 PM | message detail |
Time to listen to and revel in the Ocarina of Time soundtrack for the next 2 hours. Then it's FFVII time! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/7/2009 6:39:30 PM | message detail |
One excellent post after another from you! --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 6:41:01 PM | message detail |
I'd like to see some favorite game in the series polls (at least for Smash and MGS, and probably Mario as well). I'd like to see a Mario poll to see who wins and how Galaxy does. I'd like to see a Zelda poll to see how Twilight Princess does. It used to be that we'd get one of these polls every time a major game in a major series was released. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
nintendogirl1 | Posted 6/7/2009 6:41:27 PM | message detail |
I'm really curious, how the **** is anyone meant to make stats for Division 1? With Zelda overperforming on three Marios and Mario 1 getting crushed, I don't see how it's possible. --- :/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 6:43:26 PM | message detail |
The easiest thing to do is to just use Mario 3/Zelda 2004 and go from there. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
SonicRaptor | Posted 6/7/2009 6:43:26 PM | message detail |
That
was always going to be the problem with four-packs: you get matches
like Zelda vs. 3 Mario games which would make even the experienced
X-Stat calculator here throw up their hands and walk out. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
RPGuy96 | Posted 6/7/2009 6:55:38 PM | message detail |
There's
also the problem of giving Mario 3/Mario World values on FFVII, since
their only match with it was in FFVII/LttP/Mario World/Mario 3. My
solution to both of these is terrible but I don't really know what else
to use: For division 1 on Mario 3/Mario World: I gave Zelda 1 its 2004 percentage on Mario 3 as what it "should" have gotten on Mario World. (I was going to change this back to Mario 3 if it beat World in the semis, but that didn't happen.) Then I used SMB in the division final to get a Mario 1 on Mario World value, and then went from there to get the rest of division 1. It doesn't look too terrible; Tetris and Mega Man 2 are the 10th and 11th games but they're over Battletoads so it more or less works out. For Mario World/Mario 3 on FFVII, I gave Mario World Mario 64's value on FFVII from the quarterfinal. This has absolutely no basis in fact, it's just a guess. From there I just used the values from the division 1/2 quarterfinal to get the rest of those games. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 6:57:10 PM | message detail |
That's
basically what I did there as well. The upper quarter of the bracket is
a mess because of the three Mario games and all the SFF. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Silverflash-x | Posted 6/7/2009 6:57:43 PM | message detail |
I don't think tomorrow will give us a very interesting match. =/ --- Q. If your canoe is in a tree with its headlights on, how many pancakes does it take to get to the moon? A. None. Snakes don't have armpits. |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:11:24 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bge09/bge09-63-1.jpg http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bge09/bge09-63-2.jpg http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bge09/bge09-63-3.jpg http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bge09/bge09-63-4.jpg --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 7:11:28 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-63-1.jpg http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-63-2.jpg http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-63-3.jpg http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-63-4.jpg --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 7:11:47 PM | message detail |
Argh, 4 seconds --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/7/2009 7:12:26 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bge09/bge09-63-3.jpg Heh, I like that one --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:13:00 PM | message detail |
Me too, but I think the shot at the beginning with all the weapons at Zanarkand would have been better for FFX. --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/7/2009 7:13:09 PM | message detail |
Bacon lacking a sense of humor. Unsurprising. --- I can feel it coming over me; I feel it all around me. http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 7:14:46 PM | message detail |
Number four is Zen's isn't it --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
MetricTrout | Posted 6/7/2009 7:17:03 PM | message detail |
Hey, I like the swords pic. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:17:03 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | Posted: 6/7/2009 10:14:46 PM | #388 Yeah, you have a problem with that one too? All I did was remove the red. This is the least "gimmicky" or "artsy" I've ever done. --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
transience | Posted 6/7/2009 7:17:09 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bge09/bge09-63-3.jpg buster sword wins this, master sword no chance --- xyzzy http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg |
ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 7:17:34 PM | message detail |
I can tell because you got crazy with the filters again ! --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/7/2009 7:17:41 PM | message detail |
Buster Sword only has power in the hands of Cloud, title screen Buster Sword has no chance! --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/7/2009 7:18:24 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | Posted: 6/7/2009 10:17:34 PM | #392 IT'S NOT A FILTER I REMOVED THE RED DAMMIT (there is a difference) not like you can't tell who's who oh whatever I give up there's no pleasing you guys --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 6/7/2009 7:18:28 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3504®ion=PH Lol Ocarina lost to Melee in the Philippines. |
transience | Posted 6/7/2009 7:18:44 PM | message detail |
and I'm 100% sure that #1 and #4 want OOT to win --- xyzzy http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 7:18:54 PM | message detail |
Don't even act like you care about pleasing anyone with your pics, Zen! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
transience | Posted 6/7/2009 7:19:10 PM | message detail |
and yeah you can tell that's Zen's, they all have the same general vibe --- xyzzy http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg |
Xuxon | Posted 6/7/2009 7:19:25 PM | message detail |
Me too, but I think the shot at the beginning with all the weapons at Zanarkand would have been better for FFX. i thought about that but i couldn't find a good quality pic, only **** youtube quality. brotherhood didn't look right at all in it. |
ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 7:19:41 PM | message detail |
lens flare says what's up and whatever it is you used (gradient overlay?) to make the characters have a blue-ish tint. i'm not sure what the red thing is at the bottom, so i'll cut you some slack there. could've done without the dates, too ! --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |