GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 746
Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 6/7/2009 11:30:41 AM | message detail |
doesn't
matter wether Goldeneye is a nintendo game or not. Majority of voters
who voted for it are probably Nintendo fans. It was one of the most
popular and best sellign games on the N64 for gods sakes. Doesn't make
it a Nintendo game but it makes it a nintendo fanbase driven game. Rare
made it. So it's a Rare game. Technically. --- Playing: Star Ocean: TLH | Ninja Gaiden Black | Ar tonelico II Favourite game ever - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/7/2009 11:32:03 AM | message detail |
From: Lord_Yggdrassil | #251 And Hal Labs, which was also a Nintendo 2nd party at the point of Melees release, made SSB series. If Goldeneye is a Rare game, and not a Nintendo game... then Smash Bros is a Hal Labs game, not a Nintendo game. So don't use that logic. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/7/2009 11:33:09 AM | message detail |
Actually hell, Hal Labs isn't even owned by Nintendo: "It is an independent studio, creating games exclusively for Nintendo." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Labs --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 11:34:41 AM | message detail |
"It is an independent studio, creating games exclusively for Nintendo." Key word. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 6/7/2009 11:35:15 AM | message detail |
Well we'll see won't see. it will be an interesting match. --- Playing: Star Ocean: TLH | Ninja Gaiden Black | Ar tonelico II Favourite game ever - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/7/2009 11:36:07 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #254 And so did Rare till Nintendo sold them >_> --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 6/7/2009 11:39:08 AM | message detail |
Because
smash bros has NOTHING to do with Nintendo right? Only it has friggin
Nitnendo based characters in the damn game essentially making it a
Nintendo game. Goldenye is a game based of a MOVIE. It's got nothing to
do with Nintendo except for the fact that it appeared on their console.
--- Playing: Star Ocean: TLH | Ninja Gaiden Black | Ar tonelico II Favourite game ever - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/7/2009 11:40:06 AM | message detail |
From: Lord_Yggdrassil | #257 The content of the game means nothing; only who owns the rights to the game, and who financially backed it and published it. Without Nintendos financial backing, Rare couldn't have made Goldeneye. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/7/2009 11:42:30 AM | message detail |
Looks like we're cutting cookies after all. Hats off to MGS4 and Brawl though, they had great runs. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 6/7/2009 11:45:18 AM | message detail |
only who owns the rights to the game Except they don't fully own rights to the game anymore or the james bond license. --- Playing: Star Ocean: TLH | Ninja Gaiden Black | Ar tonelico II Favourite game ever - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/7/2009 11:45:25 AM | message detail |
OoT
is already Stronger than it was 5 years ago. I've said this many times.
Times have changed from 5 years ago, this site is far more Nintendo
dominant than it was those years ago when it was Sqaure>Everything.
Zelda beaitng FF is an example of this. Links increasing gap between
him and cloud is also much bigger. Zelda is the most popular series on
this site, so that alone tells you OoT is almost certainly going to get
a higher % on FFVII. I did find this match: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 You could make an argument about how the Series Contest final was basically OoT vs. FFVII. Still, pretty good performance from Zelda there, which gives confidence that OoT could get at least 47% on FFVII, though getting at least 48% could be possible. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 11:45:45 AM | message detail |
FFX at 35.80% on OoT right now. What does red sox think about this performance, relative to LTTP, of course? Let's see if OOT can push FFX below what LTTP got on FFVII yesterday (34.56%) despite having 2 Nintendo games in there. If that happens, and FFVII/OOT isn't close tomorrow, then yeah, LTTP with high 50s against FFX looks good. Brawl is holding up better than I thought it would here, which makes it a bit harder for OOT to kill FFX, but it might push it below LTTP's mark yesterday anyway, although a doubling looks out of the question now. 35.1% is what MGS got on OOT with a similar setup (replace Brawl with Pokemon and MGS4 with FFVIII), so if FFX goes below that MGS > FFX also looks good, but it's very close. LTTP surprised me yesterday with how well it performed relative to FFVII- just 2% lower than the previous round despite having 2 Mario games instead of relatively even competition. That suggests that FFVI probably hurt FFVII a bit worse than Mario 64 hurt LTTP, I suppose. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/7/2009 11:46:19 AM | message detail |
From: Lord_Yggdrassil | #260 They own the rights enough to block a release of it on XBLA. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/7/2009 11:47:02 AM | message detail |
With
FFX in the final, is OOT the favorite again? Or is there probably an
FF7/OOT overlap on this site with us looking at 55-45 again? --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 11:47:50 AM | message detail |
With FFX in the final, is OOT the favorite again? Why would it be? FFVII's gonna kill FFX harder than OoT kills LTTP in all likelihood. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 11:48:16 AM | message detail |
And
FFVII vs. OOT tomorrow matters a lot in terms of comparing older games
to newer games. It's probably a fairly even fight- LTTP will hold up
better, but it also doesn't overlap as closely with OOT as FFX does
with FFVII. FFVI probably doesn't overlap with VII nearly as much as X
does either, for that matter. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
Smurf FAQs | Posted 6/7/2009 11:49:49 AM | message detail |
LttP is much closer to OoT then FFX is to FFVII, the match has the advantage firmly handed to FFVII, as if it needed it. --- Smurf 60% of the time he's awesome every time. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 11:50:34 AM | message detail |
By the way, has anyone made any pics for the final tomorrow? I've only seen one other pic besides Kleenex's so far. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/7/2009 11:51:54 AM | message detail |
As if there's need for any pics aside from time. --- In-de-structable. Nothing's gonna stop me now. http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/7/2009 11:52:08 AM | message detail |
time = mine...somehow. --- No matter what, no matter how, I know I'll make it through somehow. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Saturn.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 11:54:25 AM | message detail |
I
think FFVII has looked a bit stronger than OOT every round since round
3, although it's possible that tranny's right and the older games have
just fallen a lot compared to the newer ones. In retrospect, round 2
looks that way too- Goldeneye was more or less an untested entity, and
there was never a reason to believe it wasn't really strong; we just
presumed it to be so (probably wrongly). SMRPG of course drew probably
its worst possible opponent in Chrono Trigger in 2004, and has been
underrated from the start. OOT's demolition of FFVIII/FFIX/Starcraft
also does not look as impressive anymore after FFVIII took last place
in round 3. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
creativename | Posted 6/7/2009 12:02:09 PM | message detail |
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/BGE2finals.png ^Was this perfect pic actually submitted? We know it wouldn't get accepted but it would be a travesty if it wasn't at least submitted :) --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
transience | Posted 6/7/2009 12:04:49 PM | message detail |
oh, it's been submitted. --- xyzzy http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/7/2009 12:05:01 PM | message detail |
Kleenex better have submitted it. http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9059/finalsq.png Not as good as Kleenex's, but more likely to be accepted, and keeping with our theme. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 12:06:02 PM | message detail |
KP's pic is yoblazer approved --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
creativename | Posted 6/7/2009 12:06:40 PM | message detail |
I think people are overrating FF7's chances - it should be the favorite but Ocarina has an excellent chance. And the presence of FFX/LttP adds uncertainty - logically you're inclined to think that is more in favor of FF7, but it could well not be the case if the FF overlap is worse; and we're really not sure about that. We don't have enough evidence to know how the SFF dynamics will play out. Lots of weird things could potentially happen. I'd peg Ocarina's chances at above 40% to win tomorrow. And we know that it's going to be winning early for sure. I hope people who are so confident in FF7 winning don't get over-excited just by that; it'll take some time for FF7 to take the lead. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 12:07:15 PM | message detail |
I don't think anyone's saying FFVII is a lock. I don't think I've heard that anyway. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
creativename | Posted 6/7/2009 12:07:59 PM | message detail |
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9059/finalsq.png The awesome thing about this is that LttP would probably dilute Ocarina's board vote with it due to joke love :) --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/7/2009 12:08:09 PM | message detail |
I'm
not so sure FF7 does poorly at the start. The only reason it does so
poorly at the start of every round is because everyone voting at that
time period knows it doesn't need their help to smash the
competition...except now it does. Being the heavy bracket favorite helps. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
creativename | Posted 6/7/2009 12:09:09 PM | message detail |
I
didn't see anyone call it a lock and wasn't implying that people were
saying that, but people seem extremely confident in FF7, and it seems
like Ocarina winning would be considered a significant upset. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
transience | Posted 6/7/2009 12:09:34 PM | message detail |
FF7
vs. OOT strikes me as a very different kind of match. I'm not convinced
this will follow normal trends.. FF7 might get out to a quick start
here. it's going to have brackets and for the first time all contest,
its percentage actually matters. this is a match unlike anything we've
seen in this contest. --- xyzzy http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 12:09:57 PM | message detail |
If
Brawl's round 3 match with MGS4 is legit, then it looks like a tier 2
game, also.....probably around the bottom of that tier. I really don't
think that match or RE4's round 3 match against TP were good reads on
those games though. TP and Brawl really stood out in those matches.
Brawl, Melee, and MGS are probably our top contenders for the 9-10
spots now. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
ObscureMammoth | Posted 6/7/2009 12:10:33 PM | message detail |
From: creativename | #278 OUR LOVE IS REAL! --- PNess SSBB FC - 2835-9755-3785 Vlado..thank god...another voice of sanity in this madhouse... - RealMarchhare |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 12:10:40 PM | message detail |
I am confident in FFVII, but at the same time, OoT winning wouldn't surprise me. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 6/7/2009 12:11:22 PM | message detail |
Why
will they not have a bonus match 1v1 of winner and runner up? Isn't
that the true way to find the potential and ultimate winner? --- Playing: Star Ocean: TLH | Ninja Gaiden Black | Ar tonelico II Favourite game ever - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time |
ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 12:11:40 PM | message detail |
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9059/finalsq.png If only we could boot these bottom two...! --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 12:12:46 PM | message detail |
FFVII
is certainly not a lock. It's also not a lock that OOT is winning at
the start. It couldn't win even the first 5 minutes against FFVII in
2004, and FFVII's early vote was already really bad that year (FFVII/CT
was actually a bigger shift percentagewise than Crono/Vincent even,
Sephiroth/Bowser/Ganon effect or not). --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
transience | Posted 6/7/2009 12:12:49 PM | message detail |
I'd give Ocarina a 20-25% chance of winning. that's pretty good chances considering what a heavy bracket upset it would be. FF7 remains the clear favourite until something goes above and beyond what FF7 has done. Ocarina hasn't. I did this with Link/Cloud in 2007 -- Cloud was putting up better numbers than Link and I said "you know, I don't care. it needs to go way beyond Link before I consider it to win." I'm doing the same with FF7. --- xyzzy http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/7/2009 12:12:53 PM | message detail |
Why
will they not have a bonus match 1v1 of winner and runner up? Isn't
that the true way to find the potential and ultimate winner? It's possible they will, but with Bacon, you don't know if he'll bother. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 12:17:22 PM | message detail |
And
yeah, I was really down on FFVII after round 2, but I was very wrong.
Now, FFVII's competition in that round actually looks stronger. Goldeneye > FFVIII SMRPG > FFIX Mario Kart 64 > Starcraft The 3 Nintendo games have triple SFF, while FFVII/FFIX is just 2-way SFF, but the overlap is probably much greater so it comes out to around the same thing, and FFVII's pack actually looks stronger. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/7/2009 12:20:30 PM | message detail |
OoT
would have a much better shot at beating FF7 1 on 1 than it does
tonight, and I'm not sure if Bacon would want his contest invalidated
by that. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/7/2009 12:21:10 PM | message detail |
Watch FF7 beat OoT like 58-42% or something --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 12:23:03 PM | message detail |
OoT might have a better shot 1v1, but I don't think it wins tonight or in any type of bonus match. --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 12:24:08 PM | message detail |
Though that's not to say Ocarina has no chance, just that I don't think it wins in either format. --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
transience | Posted 6/7/2009 12:25:01 PM | message detail |
at
the beginning of the contest, even before round 1, I said how I thought
OOT was a better game for blowouts than FF7. round 2 made me waver in
my faith a little, but I think I was right - FF7 just isn't going to
put up massive numbers like OOT can. I still say that FF7 would have
done worse vs. that Simcity fourpack than Mario 3 did. --- xyzzy http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/7/2009 12:25:41 PM | message detail |
If FFVII/OOT isn't close tomorrow, so that Bacon is very confident in FFVII winning the rematch, he might allow it. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
paulg235 | Posted 6/7/2009 12:26:59 PM | message detail |
Am I the only one who'd brought up the Link/Ganondorf and Link/Zelda matches? Ganondorf only grabbed like 12.1% of the votes in his match against Link. Zelda only grabbed something like 11.24% of the votes in her match. That gives me no reason to not expect OoT will not only SFF LttP worse than FF7 will SFF FFX, but I expect LttP to be close to 11%. Can you honestly see FF7 SFF'ing FFX to 11% when at best could only SFF FF6 to 14%? --- The Gamer In Me I've lost the guru. How? I don't know (lol). |
ZFS | Posted 6/7/2009 12:29:07 PM | message detail |
Link
vs. Ganondorf/Zelda is significantly different from Ocarina of Time vs.
Link to the Past, for one. Regardless of which game you like more
between the two, odds are great that you ain't voting for Ganon
or Zelda over Link. You could vote Link in every match and still
consider LttP your favorite Zelda game. --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/7/2009 12:29:24 PM | message detail |
That
gives me no reason to not expect OoT will not only SFF LttP worse than
FF7 will SFF FFX, but I expect LttP to be close to 11%. Can you
honestly see FF7 SFF'ing FFX to 11% when at best could only SFF FF6 to
14%? Again there are a lot of Zelda fans that love LttP and think OoT is overrated. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > FFX Points: 387/576 |
Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 6/7/2009 12:44:51 PM | message detail |
Ganondorf only grabbed like 12.1% of the votes in his match against Link. Zelda only grabbed something like 11.24% of the votes in her match. wow that's a horrible logic. Fail. LttP and OoT are the best two games of their series which involve the same characters. FFX/FFVII are different games with different characters. Almost different fanbases. the LFF factor for OoT/Lttp is much MUCH greater. --- Playing: Star Ocean: TLH | Ninja Gaiden Black | Ar tonelico II Favourite game ever - Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time |
