GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 746
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/6/2009 9:15:25 PM | message detail |
This probably won't hold, but MGS4 in the final would be ****ing beautiful. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 9:17:02 PM | message detail |
This...is your world now. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:54:07 PM | message detail |
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/BGE2finals.png --- No matter what, no matter how, I know I'll make it through somehow. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Saturn.gif |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/6/2009 9:55:21 PM | message detail |
From: KleenexTissue50 | Posted: 6/7/2009 12:54:07 AM | #003 XD --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
-Tofa7- | Posted 6/6/2009 9:55:55 PM | message detail |
From: KleenexTissue50 | Posted: 6/7/2009 2:54:07 PM | #003 XD --- Tofa7 - Return to: LoD | Hardcore™ | Bunny! "Thank you, thank you, no applause necessary, just send money..." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 9:55:57 PM | message detail |
Haha, great job, Kleenex. Looks like MGS4 might get the lead over 100 by the end of the Power Hour. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 9:55:59 PM | message detail |
and brawl and cuts both of them again lol --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
psychward | Posted 6/6/2009 9:56:34 PM | message detail |
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/BGE2finals.png I Lol'd. So true... --- Wall to Kentucky. Sig changed (: |
Lucid Faia | Posted 6/6/2009 9:57:57 PM | message detail |
Don't
know whether to root for MGS4 or FFX here. MGS advancing is almost
always great, but it'd be annoying if we had a repeat winner (FF7).
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes 2005-2008 Big Ten Champions! |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:58:17 PM | message detail |
FFX
is currently getting 33.19% on OOT with MGS4 and Brawl in the poll (and
probably ends around there after the night and day). MGS got 35.11% on
OOT with RBY and FFVIII. MGS for top 10 game! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 9:58:42 PM | message detail |
From: Lucid Faia | #009 FFVII isn't losing either way --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/6/2009 9:59:16 PM | message detail |
XD Kleenex --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 10:00:22 PM | message detail |
MGS4 Power Hour OVER --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 10:00:39 PM | message detail |
now that was a bad update --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:00:56 PM | message detail |
And FFX denies MGS4 a 100 vote lead at the end of the power hour. Brawl is behind, but still not out of range. --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 10:01:50 PM | message detail |
Brawl was down 200 to MGS4 at this point last round --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 10:02:01 PM | message detail |
MGS4's lead over Brawl last round at the end of the Power Hour: 202 MGS4's lead over Brawl now: 244 --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Mr3790 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:03:06 PM | message detail |
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/BGE2finals.png Ha. --- AC:WW Code: Name:Mr.378 Town:Darkcity FC: 4210-5769-8462 GENO WHIRL! |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:04:21 PM | message detail |
FFX is going to win by like 2500ish votes, just watch. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 10:04:59 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #019 It doesn't have a big enough day vote to win by THAT much. 1k is possible, though --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
Heroic Hyatt | Posted 6/6/2009 10:05:17 PM | message detail |
Curious,
does SSBB have a chance to come out of this hole? I would expect the
day vote to favor that game. (Behind OoT, of course.) --- This space for rent... Line 2 reserved for the guru who pwns my bracket. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 10:05:41 PM | message detail |
darn it brawl --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Karma Hunter | Posted 6/6/2009 10:05:51 PM | message detail |
OoT
is once again making a strong case for being #1, two very strong
showings over two rounds (though FF7 hasn't flinched in the slightest,
unlike the early rounds). Still, those pulling for OoT/having OoT in
their brackets should be rallying their asses off for FFX currently. If
MGS4 or especially Brawl make the finals, all the FF7 anti-voting in the world isn't gonna stop OoT from being obliterated. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/6/2009 10:06:06 PM | message detail |
Kleenex, send that pic...just in case. That rules. =) What do you presume comes out in the next five years that overtakes them? Nothing out now is going to get big enough, so you're gambling that something in the next five years becomes that popular? I can't imagine that - not with the way this industry is evolving. It's not like FF7 and LoZ:OoT will always be this popular here though. SMB3 obviously wasn't its 2004-self this year, for example, and how many games came out in 2004-2009 that you'd take over SMB3? FF7's going to be seventeen years old in 2014, with LoZ:OoT just a year younger. The older GameFAQs gets, the further removed from its foundation the site will become. There will be other big games, new systems, new sentiments about each company, and new visitors -- most of which are younger than we have now and won't be nearly as familiar with either game. Who knows what will step up in their places, but they should come closer to the rest of the field in the coming years. That said, what's scary is that either one could still win five years from now. --- BT > Harrich lol me |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 10:06:14 PM | message detail |
From: Heroic Hyatt | #021 very very slim chance. Its not totally dead, but it would take a miracle --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
Gaddswell | Posted 6/6/2009 10:06:15 PM | message detail |
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/BGE2finals.png LttP should be crushed by OoT and FFX by FFVII instead of this! --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:06:23 PM | message detail |
It's
surprising how much you can add to a lead just by getting 52% hours all
day long. But first, before that, it'll tear MGS4 apart for a few hours
with the Europe vote. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
psychward | Posted 6/6/2009 10:06:29 PM | message detail |
Im gonna guess no on Brawl coming out of the hole. Not against the strongest Nintendo game in the contest. --- Wall to Kentucky. Sig changed (: |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:06:56 PM | message detail |
It
would be quite the match if they were still within 100 votes of each
other going into the final hour, that would be an epic battle to say
the least. --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 10:07:28 PM | message detail |
Man, what would you even do about match pictures if we had a match come down to the last hour? Just start the match without 'em? --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
RPGuy96 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:08:14 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=60 --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 10:08:42 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #030 I'd imagine people would send in match pics for both possible outcomes --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 10:09:26 PM | message detail |
Yesterday's chart: Time | Mario World | Mario 3 | FFVII | LOZ: LTTP | Demographic EBV | 17.85% | 16.37% | 39.98% | 25.80% | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 16.94% | 16.41% | 41.73% | 24.93% | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 15.31% | 15.21% | 46.33% | 23.15% | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 15.22% | 14.46% | 48.11% | 22.21% | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 16.87% | 15.49% | 43.63% | 24.02% | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 16.25% | 15.42% | 44.67% | 23.66% | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 15.88% | 15.84% | 44.28% | 24.00% | (22:00-24:00) Yesterday's stats: Final Fantasy VII – 50.00% A Link to the Past – 34.56% Super Mario World – 26.54% Super Mario Bros. 3 – 25.61% Upper Half Stats Final Fantasy VII – 50.00% A Link to the Past – 36.61% Super Mario 64 – 36.42% Super Mario World – 36.00% Chrono Trigger – 35.36% Super Mario Bros. 3 – 34.82% Final Fantasy VI – 33.34% GoldenEye 007 – 33.03% Super Mario Bros. (Round 2) – 32.94% Super Mario RPG – 30.94% Super Mario Bros. (Round 3) – 30.84% Link’s Awakening – 30.60% The Legend of Zelda – 30.10% Mario Kart 64 – 29.98% Final Fantasy – 28.13% Final Fantasy IV – 26.86% Resident Evil 2 – 25.81% Mega Man X – 25.39% Symphony of the Night – 23.72% Sonic the Hedgehog 2 – 22.63% Sonic the Hedgehog – 22.07% Resident Evil – 22.07% Mega Man 3 – 22.06% Super Metroid – 22.01% Super Mario Kart – 21.96% Tetris – 20.93% Star Fox 64 – 20.86% Yoshi’s Island – 20.25% Mortal Kombat II – 20.21% Street Fighter II – 19.63% Mega Man 2 – 18.96% The Secret of Mana – 18.61% Donkey Kong Country – 17.76% Doom – 17.40% Sonic the Hedgehog 3 – 16.25% Battletoads – 16.02% Earthbound – 14.79% Metroid – 14.56% The Oregon Trail – 14.29% Kirby Super Star – 13.85% Donkey Kong Country 2 – 13.50% Pac-Man – 12.11% Pong – 12.08% Donkey Kong – 11.30% Suikoden – 11.10% Contra – 10.72% Punch-Out!! – 10.47% Ninja Gaiden – 10.45% Streets of Rage II – 9.33% Duck Hunt – 9.01% River City Ransom – 8.90% Civilization – 8.41% The Secret of Monkey Island – 7.92% Castlevania III – 7.82% SimCity – 7.28% Dragon Warrior III – 6.73% Shining Force II – 6.71% Phantasy Star IV – 6.01% Space Invaders – 5.82% Galaga – 5.63% Gunstar Heroes – 5.17% The Prince of Persia – 5.05% Lufia II – 4.76% Tecmo Super Bowl – 4.76% Crystalis – 3.93% --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:09:29 PM | message detail |
I made one for each, so it's ok! --- I'm gonna keep on going, I know I'll be strong. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 10:10:03 PM | message detail |
I'd imagine people would send in match pics for both possible outcomes Yeah, but Bacon can't put a pic up until the result is certain. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
RPGuy96 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:10:09 PM | message detail |
I
can't look at the 2002 pictures without realizing that Scorpion/Pac-Man
happened the same round as Samus/Sonic and Sephiroth/Mega Man, and that
Link/Scorpion was a quarterfinal. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:10:53 PM | message detail |
Where do the numbers for SMW and SMB3 come from again? --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 10:10:55 PM | message detail |
OoT exactly doubling FFX right now. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 10:11:10 PM | message detail |
Where do the numbers for SMW and SMB3 come from again? Thin air. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 10:11:27 PM | message detail |
After seeing this performance by OoT (likely drops under 40% by the end of the match), gotta say FFVII wins this round too. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:11:46 PM | message detail |
MGS4 trying to get away from FFX here. Yeah it looks like Brawl isn't gonna be a competitor this time. If that's the case Brawl, then perform Ganoncide and take some of MGS4's votes with you! --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
hochiminhX | Posted 6/6/2009 10:14:02 PM | message detail |
Can somebody explain to me why this is impressive for OoT? None of these games are Top 10 --- I will bury you. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 10:14:23 PM | message detail |
From: hochiminhX | #042 Simple; its not. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 10:15:41 PM | message detail |
Hey, MGS4 broke 100. Goodnight. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/6/2009 10:16:04 PM | message detail |
Battletoads – 16.02% The Oregon Trail – 14.29% That's odd. Battletoads being above Oregon Trail. Oregon Trail actually finished above 20% where as Battletoads couldn't do that. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/6/2009 10:16:56 PM | message detail |
I
like how Ulti is trying to defer from the fact that Brawl has
essentially proven it is much stronger than Melee here by staying close
to FFX despite OoT in the poll. lol melee --- "Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy" - trancer1 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 10:17:18 PM | message detail |
From: -LusterSoldier- | #045 Battletoads also faced stiffer competition. About Ocarina of times percentage though, I expected it to have to hit 43-44% here to match FF7 yesterday. FF7 was a SFF situation, sure. But it was also 3 top 7-8 games. This match is 1 sure fire top 10 game, and 2 borderline top 10 games. 40% isn't cutting it. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/356/484cc4215cae81cbd2ed258c3dbbfadc0b899894.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:17:56 PM | message detail |
This is an average performance from OOT. FFVII still looks better than it. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
transience | Posted 6/6/2009 10:19:17 PM | message detail |
this is fine by OOT. if Brawl is hurting it, it's a good performance. I don't think it beats FF7 but that doesn't mean OOT is bombing or anything. --- xyzzy http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg |
tennisboy213 | Posted 6/6/2009 10:19:22 PM | message detail |
For some reason I think MGS4 would leech FF7 more than FFX. |