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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 745

PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/6/2009 9:30:26 PM | message detail
I won't argue with anyone, because five years of Melee/RBY/Brawl wars would be just about the most retarded thing ever.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:30:47 PM | message detail
Melee > RBY has been dead for a while now. Melee > Brawl......this is looking like one of those picks where I take Melee on principle because I couldn't stand it if it won and I had taken Brawl.
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greatone10 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:31:02 PM | message detail
This is proof that all the elitist Melee metagamers represent just a small segment of the Smash fanbase. The majority of the fanbase likes the series because its a fun game that can be casually played with tons of easter eggs and Nintendo nostalgia, and Brawl delivers that.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/6/2009 9:31:17 PM | message detail
In 5 years, I'm pretty sure Brawl beats Melee.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 6/6/2009 9:31:18 PM | message detail
ARRGH

last update then bed

it's 5:30 in the morning

I'm working at 9:30

wtf

...and it's an ok-ish update! whatever, bedtime
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 9:31:30 PM | message detail
Seriously, stick Melee or Brawl in RBY's spot in round three. Stick Brawl in Melee's place in round four. Stick Melee or RBY in Brawl's spot right now.

Does anything change?
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Xcarvenger | Posted 6/6/2009 9:32:02 PM | message detail
MGS is probably the strongest MGS, and would have beaten RBY with OoT in the poll if not for FF8...

Also if RBY was here instead, it would take second comfortably no doubt
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 9:32:35 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #406
Seriously, stick Melee or Brawl in RBY's spot in round three. Stick Brawl in Melee's place in round four. Stick Melee or RBY in Brawl's spot right now.

Does anything change?


OoT > RBY if RBY was in Brawls spot now... It won't be sff'd very hard, and I can't imagine RBY not taking advantage of the MGS4/FFX LFF
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 9:32:45 PM | message detail
Heck, switch MGS with MGS4. What happens?
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XIII_rocks | Posted 6/6/2009 9:32:52 PM | message detail
So basically to sum up:

ITT: Why the format/gen divisions suck.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:32:55 PM | message detail
Actually though, yeah, as long as FFX ends up pretty far from Brawl, Melee > Brawl is still alive. Melee had reason to get stomped with SFF last round; it was at the bottom of a chain of 3 Nintendo games.
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greatone10 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:33:55 PM | message detail
I think MGS1 would be in last place. I think Metal Gear is one of the series where the popularity ages quickly. The times Snake has been the weakest are when he is farthest from a major release. But that's just speculation.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:33:58 PM | message detail
OoT > MGS?

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/6/2009 9:34:14 PM | message detail
MGS4 competing with FFX at least makes RE4 look better. Yay
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:34:14 PM | message detail
MGS beats either Melee or Brawl in round 3, either of them takes last in round 4 easily, and MGS takes 2nd today.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:34:26 PM | message detail
But if Brawl manages to get ahead of FFX, then it makes Melee look like a fool.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 9:34:54 PM | message detail
Seriously though, a FFX/MGS4 split just makes getting stats all the more difficult. Oh well.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/6/2009 9:34:54 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, in the game of the century poll, FFX beat RE4 with 57%. Same as MGS4 last round.

Come on this was sooo obvious you guys
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/6/2009 9:34:55 PM | message detail
Haha, yeah, we don't need SSBM/SSBB/RBY to become our new SM64/GE/MGS. That said, I'm tired of giving SSBM the benefit of the doubt when it's not turned people's heads like RBY/SSBB and we're seeing them each do better against LoZ:OoT than SSBM anyway.

Agree to disagree until we have more evidence, I guess.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/6/2009 9:34:57 PM | message detail
Does anything change?

I can't imagine any results changing - maybe just some trivial vote margins here and there. Who really cares, though. The only concrete things we've picked up from this contest (off the top of my head) is that the gap between VII/OoT and everything else is bigger than many of us imagined, and that most games from the SNES era and older have taken a noticeable hit. These newer games are in the same boat as the new ones in 2004 - they look insanely jumbled, and we'll have to give them a few years to see how they age.

And Pokemon is an even bigger mystery.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:35:17 PM | message detail
Oh and RBY takes second if it gets put in Brawl's spot today.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/6/2009 9:35:24 PM | message detail

From: XIII_rocks | #410
So basically to sum up:

ITT: Why the format/gen divisions suck.


Yep.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:35:53 PM | message detail
It really is sick seeing just how far ahead of the entire field Ocarina and FF7 are.
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transience | Posted 6/6/2009 9:36:31 PM | message detail
FFX is not going to come rushing back on MGS4 like Brawl did. if this gets much higher it's gonna have a hell of a time coming back.
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greatone10 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:36:35 PM | message detail
I still can't believe Gold/Silver lost to Xenogears all those years ago. That just makes no sense.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 9:36:42 PM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #423
It really is sick seeing just how far ahead of the entire field Ocarina and FF7 are.


If we ever do another one of these contests, I'd petition to get them out of the contest
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Gnomestone | Posted 6/6/2009 9:37:04 PM | message detail
OoT = beast
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 9:37:23 PM | message detail
I think we all knew how far ahead FFVII and OoT were. I just think we needed to see it beat down top tier games some more before it really clicked. It was like in 2007 when Cloud was owning faces and everyone thought he had a shot at Link. It was just because we hadn't seen Cloud in a poll without Link since 2004.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/6/2009 9:37:25 PM | message detail
Oh, yeah. RBY could probably muster a win in Brawl's spot today, but I'll have to wait until we see final percentages. I get the feeling MGS4 is pulling a Snake-lite (or Snake-very-lite for those who want to start an argument) over here.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:37:53 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, in the game of the century poll, FFX beat RE4 with 57%. Same as MGS4 last round.

Come on this was sooo obvious you guys


And in the end, the Game of the Year polls were waiting for their one moment to strike.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/6/2009 9:37:54 PM | message detail
So essentially, the 2014 BGE contest will still be impossible to predict other than FF7 and OoT once again making the finals.
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greatone10 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:38:06 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 6/6/2009 9:36:42 PM | #426
If we ever do another one of these contests, I'd petition to get them out of the contest


If we do 1vs1 that would be fine, but if its a fourway, I'd rather just match them up with fodder and let them compete for second place ala SMB3 vs. old school junk.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/6/2009 9:38:09 PM | message detail
Yeah, there's absolute no reason to include FF7 and OoT in the main bracket.

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transience | Posted 6/6/2009 9:38:36 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3501

just a reminder of how strong Brawl is.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:38:38 PM | message detail
5 years from now, I predict neither FFVII nor OoT win the contest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 9:38:42 PM | message detail
I get the feeling MGS4 is pulling a Snake-lite (or Snake-very-lite for those who want to start an argument) over here.

FFVII > MGS4 tomorrow...?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 9:39:05 PM | message detail
It would be a hell of a crapshoot to figure out who wins if you take out FF7 and OoT, too.
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xp1337 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:39:26 PM | message detail
Yeah, there's absolute no reason to include FF7 and OoT in the main bracket.

From a stats point of view, but is there a concrete reason to knock OoT out of the contest if it has never won?

We'd all know that it would destroy everything, but even Seph had to be thrown the formality of a victory with the joke of a villains contest to get put in the ToC.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/6/2009 9:39:27 PM | message detail

From: transience | #424
FFX is not going to come rushing back on MGS4 like Brawl did. if this gets much higher it's gonna have a hell of a time coming back.


Agreed. I wouldn't like FFX's chances if Metal Gear had any type of day vote lead. It's clear tons of people are excited by the way this game is performing. FFX has to catch up quick and catch up now, because it can't win a long, drawn out, 24-hour battle with that kind of fanbase.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 9:39:32 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #436
I get the feeling MGS4 is pulling a Snake-lite (or Snake-very-lite for those who want to start an argument) over here.

FFVII > MGS4 tomorrow...?


How epic would that be?!
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params7 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:39:49 PM | message detail
wow @ Ocarina's lead already. This and FF7, people love them more than they love their loved ones.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:39:57 PM | message detail
Yeah, Brawl is definitely a potential top 5 game, I think.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/6/2009 9:40:10 PM | message detail
From a stats point of view, but is there a concrete reason to knock OoT out of the contest if it has never won?

We'd all know that it would destroy everything, but even Seph had to be thrown the formality of a victory with the joke of a villains contest to get put in the ToC.


Won't matter if OoT wins tomorrow !!

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greatone10 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:40:12 PM | message detail
Which ever game beats FFVII or OoT in a future game contest, the only thing I can say for certain about it is that it hasn't been released yet.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/6/2009 9:40:15 PM | message detail
We'd all know that it would destroy everything, but even Seph had to be thrown the formality of a victory with the joke of a villains contest to get put in the ToC.

Then have a 32 game Best Nintendo Game Contest and just get it over with then!

Oh wait, that's basically what the last three rounds have been anyway

Owned
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/6/2009 9:40:44 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #435
5 years from now, I predict neither FFVII nor OoT win the contest.


Would you have said the same thing five years ago?
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:40:44 PM | message detail
The day isn't when FFX is going to put this match away- that would be the deep night and early morning, where FFX is just going to work MGS4 over.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/6/2009 9:40:50 PM | message detail
Sounds like we need a Best Zelda Ever contest!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/6/2009 9:40:52 PM | message detail
Brawl is out of this, I think. Its all about FFX vs. MGS4
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Scott_Pilgrim | Posted 6/6/2009 9:41:18 PM | message detail
FFX can't let MGS4 be ahead of it. It has to take the lead now and never let go.
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