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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 744
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 9:36:38 PM | message detail |
Civ moved from the first division to the second division. I don't remember what other changes that entailed. It swapped with Dragon Warrior III. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Lucid Faia | Posted 6/5/2009 9:41:25 PM | message detail |
Can't believe we're headed towards a final with two Zelda games and two Final Fantasy games. How dull. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes 2005-2008 Big Ten Champions! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 9:41:53 PM | message detail |
Can't believe we're headed towards a final with two Zelda games and two Final Fantasy games. How dull. This is basically the final everyone was expecting before the contest started. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Lucid Faia | Posted 6/5/2009 9:42:37 PM | message detail |
Doesn't make it any less boring. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes 2005-2008 Big Ten Champions! |
Piazza | Posted 6/5/2009 9:43:25 PM | message detail |
MGS4 will take out FFX. --- People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 9:43:44 PM | message detail |
Also,
adjusting the stats for yesterday is a pain. MGS4's 42% on SSBB last
round complicates things. I can't use what RE4 got on Brawl this round
because that puts it over MGS4, which just beat it. I suppose I could
use what RE4 got on MGS4 this round and adjust it to last round. That
gives us MGS4 > TP. Well, I guess that's fine for now. Who knows? --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 9:44:14 PM | message detail |
Doesn't make it any less boring. Well, you said you "couldn't believe it." I was just saying this was the chalk outcome. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/5/2009 9:44:43 PM | message detail |
THAT'S NOT FINE --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 9:46:06 PM | message detail |
Oh, it's not? Uhhh... --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Lucid Faia | Posted 6/5/2009 9:48:35 PM | message detail |
MGS4 will take out FFX. I'll be rooting for it to happen, even though FFX is one of my favorite games. There should be some diversity in the final. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes 2005-2008 Big Ten Champions! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/5/2009 9:50:15 PM | message detail |
Take
Oblivion vs. TP in Round 3. Now take the score MGS3 got against
Oblivion in R2. Use that to find what MGS3 gets against TP. Now take
the score RE4 got against MGS3 in R2, and apply it to the Adjusted
MGS3. This is what RE4 gets against TP in a fair match. yeah. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/5/2009 9:51:43 PM | message detail |
From: Lucid Faia | #410 Eh, MGS4 fans will have a fifth chance to vote for their game tomorrow. I'm not expecting Bacon to give us FFVII vs. Ocarina after the contest, so I'd much rather see those two duke it out in as even a match as possible for the championship. MGS4 would ruin that and would try to make up for it by giving like 11% of voters a different game to vote for. Not worth it. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 9:52:21 PM | message detail |
I'm
pretty sure round 2 is what RE4 gets on TP in a fair match. It's what
those two get on MGS4 and Brawl in a fair match that's confusing. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
HaRRicH | Posted 6/5/2009 9:53:41 PM | message detail |
Today's
match brings up the question: how much better could LoZ:OoT do against
FF7 one-on-one than Team Nintendo is doing against FF7 right now? It's
safe to say LoZ:OoT would be doing better, at least. --- BT > Harrich lol me |
hochiminhX | Posted 6/5/2009 9:53:55 PM | message detail |
FFVII is a monster. OoT, I hope you're taking notes because. --- I will bury you. |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/5/2009 9:55:30 PM | message detail |
OOT
could be doing better? These Nintendo games all have pretty bad day
votes, and it's a weekend, so FFVII might treat us to classic FFVII
trends of rising through the day today, but even then it won't hit 50%.
If OOT were to do better, it would have to win, but probably by a fair
margin. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/5/2009 9:55:48 PM | message detail |
Ah,
that's easy. TP vs. Brawl last match is about as fair as that gets,
unless you think TP fans abandoned ship to help push Brawl through,
which I don't think happened. Just extrapolate RE4 through that. MGS4's score in R3 was a clear underperformance, I think, so...set it to 48% on Brawl and be on your merry way !! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/5/2009 9:56:16 PM | message detail |
I
think RE4 would do better against MGS4 than what its result showed. In
my opinion, one of RE4's biggest strengths also turned out to be one of
its main problems - it overlaps with nearly EVERYTHING. Seriously, it
might be the only mature game in history that was uber-hyped as a
Nintendo game for the core Nintendo fanbase, and it's a million seller
on three home consoles (two Nintendo, one Sony). How many other games
in the bracket can claim to be a million seller on three consoles?
Maybe just the Marios if you count Virtual Console sales. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
DawgKat | Posted 6/5/2009 9:57:35 PM | message detail |
Ugh,
FF7 will have this one because 1. The Nintendo fans will be split 3
ways and 2. The Mario fans will be split between 3 and World. --- "Could you slow down an eensy weensy bit?" "NONSENSE, Poopypants!" - Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 9:58:51 PM | message detail |
TP vs. Brawl last match is about as fair as that gets Yeah, but then you get RE4 > MGS4! I guess I could chalk up round two to an underperformance or something. I don't have any reason to do so though. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/5/2009 9:59:42 PM | message detail |
From: DawgKat | #419 those arent the only reasons ff7 has this won --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/5/2009 9:59:56 PM | message detail |
I agree that round 3 looks like an overperformance for Brawl. Maybe give MGS4 what it got in the GOTY poll? --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 10:00:17 PM | message detail |
Meh, I don't want to use GOTY polls. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Meeks54 | Posted 6/5/2009 10:01:04 PM | message detail |
Red, where is my set up for this match? This it the moment the cheater L Block/Mario is finally killed off, and by Link and Cloud no less, so that Cloud and Link can have their ultimate battle for supremacy in the ruins of Midgar. I demand a damn story --- DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK??? |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/5/2009 10:01:08 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #423 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2254 Looks legitimate. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
Lucid Faia | Posted 6/5/2009 10:01:28 PM | message detail |
Eh,
MGS4 fans will have a fifth chance to vote for their game tomorrow. I'm
not expecting Bacon to give us FFVII vs. Ocarina after the contest, so
I'd much rather see those two duke it out in as even a match as
possible for the championship. MGS4 would ruin that and would try to
make up for it by giving like 11% of voters a different game to vote
for. Not worth it. True... MGS4 winning gives FF7 an easy win in the final, while FFX winning keeps it competitive. Though I think FF7 has it either way. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes 2005-2008 Big Ten Champions! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/5/2009 10:03:04 PM | message detail |
Just set MGS4 a little above RE4/TP and a little below Brawl. Best you're going to get. MGS4 isn't a transitive game in the slightest; the tougher the competition, the better it does. Just look at the GotY polls, and its matches here. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 6/5/2009 10:04:32 PM | message detail |
holy omg @ ff7% right now... 1 hour in and over 41%? dayam --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/5/2009 10:06:25 PM | message detail |
FFVII Power Hour ended early, apparently. Pretty weird to watch it drop six updates in a row. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/5/2009 10:06:42 PM | message detail |
This
it the moment the cheater L Block/Mario is finally killed off, and by
Link and Cloud no less, so that Cloud and Link can have their ultimate
battle for supremacy in the ruins of Midgar. I demand a damn story I'll work on it tomorrow (or rather today) when I wake up. Would have done it earlier but I've been rather busy this week, and this fanfic will have to incorporate 4 matches worth of stuff (Pokemon is of course aligned with L-Block). --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/5/2009 10:08:33 PM | message detail |
Alright
FFVII, you've lost enough time. Now crush these Nintendo games with
every other voting block! These games (especially the Marios) have top
tier power hours and mediocre to bad day votes. Crush them! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/5/2009 10:11:38 PM | message detail |
So
the split for the final should be pretty close to 50% Zelda/50% Final
Fantasy. Should be kinda interesting to see which side takes that,
seeing as we've got #1 and #2 of both series in the match. --- I've been waiting for this moment all my life - it's my destiny. http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 6/5/2009 10:13:03 PM | message detail |
imo.. mgs being there will hurt ff7 more --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 6/5/2009 10:13:38 PM | message detail |
due to what happened to ff8 --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 10:14:55 PM | message detail |
Just set MGS4 a little above RE4/TP and a little below Brawl. I don't like doing arbitrary adjustments either. Oh well, I've got what I'm going with for now anyway. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
awesomepossum00 | Posted 6/5/2009 10:15:28 PM | message detail |
MGS would hurt it...but it wont make it. utterly moot point. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/5/2009 10:16:33 PM | message detail |
FF7 drops .5% in the past 40 minutes? What is this insanity?! --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/5/2009 10:16:39 PM | message detail |
I'm
trying to figure out just how Zelda beat Final Fantasy in 2006. Ocarina
+ LttP is probably a bit stronger than FFVII + FFX, but judging by the
huge drop in Zelda strength after that, FF definitely has more reserves
on its side. Maybe the 2D Final Fantasies had already long turned to
crap before then, or maybe Wii/TP hype was just as good as TP's
eventual release. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 10:20:12 PM | message detail |
The Series Contest just can't be correlated to games. That's all there is to it. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/5/2009 10:20:54 PM | message detail |
I'm
not sure about the FF's having deeper strength after that. FFX, FFVI,
Zelda 1, and TP are probably all fairly close to each other- an
advantage to the FF games but not much of one. The thing is that LTTP would rock the second strongest FF game hard- high 50s, with a small chance at 60%. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
Meeks54 | Posted 6/5/2009 10:21:28 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #439 Yes it can, and when OoT dismantles FF VII in the bonus match, that will be the end of that. If series does not correlate to games, please explain to me how SSB held with Mario, and then Mario held with FF? --- DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK??? |
Sonic_Factor | Posted 6/5/2009 10:21:44 PM | message detail |
I doubt Lttp gets more then 55 on ffx, maybe even ff8. --- Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII! He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/5/2009 10:23:25 PM | message detail |
60% on FFX I think is a colossal underestimation of FFX. Or an overestimation of LttP I don't know --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/5/2009 10:23:47 PM | message detail |
Leon's
right though. People can have FFVII as their favorite game and still
vote for the Zelda series over the Final Fantasy series. I know I would
vote Melee over any Mario game, but wouldn't dream of voting for the
SSB series over the Mario series- all the more reason that match
impressed me so much. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/5/2009 10:24:28 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #440 TP wasn't released yet, though, which is why it's more puzzling. It would be easier to buy now since TP is obviously a valuable addition to the Zelda arsenal, but back then, the Zelda 3D library was Ocarina and the insanely weaker Majora's Mask and Wind Waker. I guess I can buy Wii/TP hype helping out, but it just seems harder to believe hype for one game can boost an entire series (unless that series is damned Smash Bros). Although TP hype was pretty big back in the day, so whatever! Just something fun to think about. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 10:24:29 PM | message detail |
Yesterday's chart: Time | LOZ: TP | RE4 | SSBB | MGS4 | Demographic EBV | 23.41% | 23.55% | 27.99% | 25.05% | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 22.86% | 21.81% | 26.78% | 28.55% | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 22.90% | 23.23% | 24.71% | 29.16% | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 23.65% | 23.05% | 25.23% | 28.07% | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 24.19% | 22.53% | 26.89% | 26.39% | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 23.63% | 21.40% | 29.26% | 25.71% | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 22.56% | 20.16% | 28.91% | 28.37% | (22:00-24:00) Yesterday's stats: Metal Gear Solid 4 – 50.00% Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 49.92% Twilight Princess – 46.35% Resident Evil 4 – 44.91% Fourth Quarter Stats Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 50.00% Metal Gear Solid 4 – 42.03% Twilight Princess – 38.96% Resident Evil 4 – 37.75% Metal Gear Solid 3 – 37.50% Kingdom Hearts II – 37.21% Fallout 3 – 35.58% Super Mario Galaxy – 33.88% Oblivion – 32.99% Tales of Symphonia – 31.85% God of War – 31.72% World of Warcraft – 31.35% Call of Duty 4 – 31.00% Portal – 30.99% San Andreas – 30.75% Grand Theft Auto IV – 30.44% Half-Life 2 – 30.44% Pokemon Diamond/Pearl – 30.23% BioShock – 29.61% Final Fantasy XII – 29.36% Halo 3 – 29.34% Halo 2 – 28.59% Shadow of the Colossus – 26.37% Okami – 26.08% Left 4 Dead – 24.74% Street Fighter IV – 22.14% Persona 4 – 22.13% Gears of War – 21.80% Mass Effect – 20.01% Team Fortress 2 – 19.60% LittleBigPlanet – 17.68% Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – 17.59% Hmmm...Maybe these stats aren't that bad. San Andreas slightly above GTA IV and Halo 3 a little above 2 are expected. Don't like some other stuff though. Fourth Quarter Raw Stats Metal Gear Solid 4 – 50.00% Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 49.92% Twilight Princess – 46.35% Resident Evil 4 – 44.91% Kingdom Hearts II – 44.49% Metal Gear Solid 3 – 39.05% Portal – 36.87% Half-Life 2 – 36.21% Oblivion – 36.12% Fallout 3 – 35.52% BioShock – 35.23% Final Fantasy XII – 34.93% God of War – 34.73% Halo 3 – 34.01% San Andreas – 33.68% World of Warcraft – 32.65% Shadow of the Colossus – 31.37% Call of Duty 4 – 30.95% Tales of Symphonia – 30.87% Grand Theft Auto IV – 30.39% Halo 2 – 29.77% Super Mario Galaxy – 27.44% Okami – 27.16% Gears of War – 25.94% Left 4 Dead – 25.01% Pokemon Diamond/Pearl – 24.47% Street Fighter IV – 22.10% Persona 4 – 22.09% LittleBigPlanet – 21.03% Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – 20.92% Mass Effect – 20.23% Team Fortress 2 – 15.86% --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 10:25:18 PM | message detail |
If series does not correlate to games, please explain to me how SSB held with Mario, and then Mario held with FF? Yeah, because Mario sure is holding up there with FFVII right now. Even when you put the two together, FFVII's still kicking their tail. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/5/2009 10:27:04 PM | message detail |
60% on FFX I think is a colossal underestimation of FFX. Or an overestimation of LttP I don't know Well, the 2004 x-stats project LTTP to get 55.71% on FFX. There's really no reason to think it does worse than that then (CT and SSBM probably both overperformed on FFVII), and since then Nintendo has in general risen relative to Square. High 50s shouldn't be surprising at all. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 10:27:07 PM | message detail |
The thing is that LTTP would rock the second strongest FF game hard- high 50s, with a small chance at 60%. Have we seen the same LTTP this contest? 35-36% on FFVII probably isn't any better than FFX gets. TP wasn't released yet, though, which is why it's more puzzling. Actually, this could explain it. Hype zone --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/5/2009 10:28:36 PM | message detail |
After
the contest there was a poll that asked if LoZ was really the greatest
series and there was an option that said "Maybe, depends on Twilight
Princess" and I think it got 10%. If that many people were really
depending on that game to freaking make the difference between LoZ
being the best or not being the best I'd say it had some expectations
on it --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |