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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 743

-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/5/2009 1:53:31 AM | message detail
56.04%...

It's like on the very verge of putting up good enough numbers


It probably won't go up much more than that. Right now, it has 55.58% this hour, but there are still 2 more updates left to go in this hour so it might go up or down a bit.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/5/2009 1:56:37 AM | message detail
I thought 57% would be the number to reach if it wanted a victory. Though 56% should at least probably stop it from losing any votes during the DSV, it might even gain a bit. Although probably not enough to stave off the comeback
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awesomepossum00 | Posted 6/5/2009 2:00:34 AM | message detail
As a noob to this little contest, but an informed spectator as i follow my brother's attempts at contest conquest... I must say... i keep hearing about a miracle "day vote" for super smash brothers... Last i checked little boys (doubting the presence of little girls) are equally as enamored with LoZ: TP as they are with smashing kirby in the mouth with pokeballs. I think you guys need to give the historical overanalyzation a break :)

TLDR: noob opinion, brawl is done for via LoZ: TP stealing votes
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/5/2009 2:01:40 AM | message detail
MGS4/Brawl by the hour:

Time
1:00 | 51.60%
2:00 | 50.96%
3:00 | 54.77%
4:00 | 56.04%
5:00 | 56.32%

Okay, seems like MGS4 is stabilizing with the night vote. This hour (the 5:00-6:00 AM block) has been the strongest hour for FFVII and FFX in their round 4 match. Let's see if this holds true with MGS4.
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 6/5/2009 2:15:45 AM | message detail

From: awesomepossum00 | #253
As a noob to this little contest, but an informed spectator as i follow my brother's attempts at contest conquest... I must say... i keep hearing about a miracle "day vote" for super smash brothers... Last i checked little boys (doubting the presence of little girls) are equally as enamored with LoZ: TP as they are with smashing kirby in the mouth with pokeballs. I think you guys need to give the historical overanalyzation a break :)

TLDR: noob opinion, brawl is done for via LoZ: TP stealing votes


well duh but it doesn't stop the Albions and red sox's of the topics from clinging on to a multi-thousand mega comeback for no reason whatsoever.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 6/5/2009 2:23:10 AM | message detail
I don't feel like doing votal stats anymore. If you still want me to do them though...

Oh, and what is it with the pictures emphasizing female characters?
Smurf FAQs | Posted 6/5/2009 2:38:21 AM | message detail
I want you to do votal stats.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/5/2009 2:39:45 AM | message detail
Smurf what have you done
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 6/5/2009 2:40:07 AM | message detail
1. Final Fantasy VII (Round 3)
2. Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Round 4)
2. Final Fantasy VII (Round 4)
3. Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Round 3)
4. Zelda: A Link to the Past (Round 3)
5. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Round 3)
6. Super Mario Bros. (Round 3)
7. Super Smash Bros. Melee (Round 3)
8. Zelda: Twilight Princess (Round 3)
9. The Legend of Zelda (Round 3)
10. Final Fantasy VI (Round 3)
11. Super Mario Bros. 3 (Round 3)
12. Super Mario World (Round 3)
13. Super Mario World (Round 4)
14. Final Fantasy X (Round 3)
15. Super Mario Bros. 3 (Round 4)
16. The Legend of Zelda (Round 4)
17. Metal Gear Solid 4 (Round 3)
18. Final Fantasy X (Round 4)
18. Resident Evil 4 (Round 3)
19. Metal Gear Solid 3 (Round 3)
20. Super Mario 64 (Round 3)
21. Zelda: A Link to the Past (Round 4)
22. Super Mario 64 (Round 4)
23. Pokemon Red/Blue (Round 3)
24. Chrono Trigger (Round 3)
25. Kingdom Hearts (Round 3)
26. Pokemon Red/Blue (Round 4)
26. Metal Gear Solid (Round 3)
27. Oblivion (Round 3)
28. Fallout 3 (Round 3)
29. Final Fantasy IV (Round 3)
30. Final Fantasy VIII (Round 3)
31. Diablo II (Round 3)
32. Call of Duty 4 (Round 3)
33. Super Metroid (Round 3)
34. GoldenEye (Round 3)
35. Super Smash Bros. Melee (Round 4)
35. Tetris (Round 3)
36. Final Fantasy VI (Round 4)
37. Sonic the Hedgehog (Round 3)
38. Mega Man 2 (Round 3)
39. Zelda: Link’s Awakening (Round 3)
40. Super Mario Bros. (Round 4)

For some reason Ocarina of Time had a higher votal this round than it did last round, not to mention that it currently holds the title of highest votal of the round, and I don't expect that the change.

Confirm or Deny: This site is run by fanboys.
Smurf FAQs | Posted 6/5/2009 2:42:07 AM | message detail
Could you show some sort of collaboration between the voting stats from every round in a great big ranking chart? That'd be neat.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 6/5/2009 3:03:11 AM | message detail
MGS4 winning this is an absolute triumph. Brilliant stuff. Just gotta close it out.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/5/2009 3:11:14 AM | message detail
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/5/2009 3:19:52 AM | message detail
This would be an awesome match if it somehow manages to duplicate last round's trends.

If the percents were to match, MGS4 would build a lead until the ASV all the way up to about ~1900 votes.

But then Brawl would make a comeback totaling about 1900 votes meaning a virtual tie

Obviously too epic to be true

Nevermind the last post >_> Forgot to factor in they're only playing with like 50% of the vote
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psychward | Posted 6/5/2009 3:22:22 AM | message detail
I thought MGS4 was a masterpiece myself but Brawl is so insanely popular. It would be something if MGS4 held it off considering its a PS3 exclusive vs. one of the fastest selling games on one of the most popular consoles of all time. But im not going to get my hopes up.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 6/5/2009 3:22:47 AM | message detail
Ah, I'll do it. Here goes...

Zelda: Ocarina of Time kept about 106.55% of its votes from last round, about 82.06% of its votes from the round before, and about 73.79% of its votes from the first round. Boy, it's been doing well all contest. BTW it had a higher percentage and votal than Final Fantasy VII this round, but I doubt that its competition was any stronger than FF7's. One thing to note is that Ocarina of Time beat Melee in Asia but lost to it in the Philippines.

Pokemon Red/Blue kept about 93.21% of its votes from last round, about 78.34% of its votes from the round before that, and about 44.5% of its votes from the first round. I'm starting to think that Ocarina of Time DID SFF Pokemon, and Pokemon advanced because MGS and FF8 were hurting each other, or possibly Ocarina of Time was hurting MGS (hey, that's not fair! I may call OoT the Best Game Ever, but there are 20 or so games that I would accept it losing to without anger, and MGS and yes, even FF7, belong in there). I think Pokemon actually took 2nd place in the USA. Nothing much to say, to be honest.

Super Smash Bros. Melee kept about 44.94% of its votes from last round, about 42.06% of its votes from the round before that, and about 33.16% of its votes from the first round. And it seems that SSBM (and, by extension, all 21st century Nintendo titles) are casual bait that will fall at sight of an old Nintendo title.

Final Fantasy X kept about 89.91% of its votes from last round, about 81.89% of its votes from the round before that, and about 55.05% of its votes from the first round. Not much to say, really.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/5/2009 3:23:17 AM | message detail
Wow... TP has been stalling brawl all night at 800
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 6/5/2009 3:23:37 AM | message detail
Loving this battle.
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awesomepossum00 | Posted 6/5/2009 3:24:44 AM | message detail
Whats the chance LoZ: TP steals smash brother's soul and stomps on its heart during the day and makes an equally epic comeback to take 2nd place after trying to be 4th all night?
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/5/2009 3:40:02 AM | message detail
Though looks like MGS4 is already crushing the awesome match scenario by kicking this hour's ass too despite falling off quite significantly with this hour last round.

Not that MGS4 cementing a win is a bad thing!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/5/2009 3:53:27 AM | message detail
Didn't luster say for the goty match, MGS4 got its biggest lead at like 6:57? It was apparently still gaining at this time then
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/5/2009 4:06:37 AM | message detail
Tempted to call this for MGS4. Like FFX, it's doing very well with the morning.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/5/2009 4:12:58 AM | message detail
25 vote cut. it begins
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psychward | Posted 6/5/2009 4:16:42 AM | message detail
INB4 Mario cheat squad.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/5/2009 4:19:20 AM | message detail
Brawl trying to show that it still has a chance here. Not a very big chance though.

Projection based on last round: MGS4 wins with 50.49%.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/5/2009 4:21:39 AM | message detail
not a very good chance? we're talking about the worst day vote outside of old square vs. one of the best day votes out there

Smash is the favorite here, no question
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/5/2009 4:27:44 AM | message detail
Smash also just lost 250 votes with the first hour of the morning vote. MGS4 could be at a 2500-3000 vote lead by 3 PM.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/5/2009 4:28:18 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #276
Smash also just lost 250 votes with the first hour of the morning vote. MGS4 could be at a 2500-3000 vote lead by 3 PM.


uh... you do realize the true morning vote doesnt start till after 7, right? 6-7 is still late night/europe vote.
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psychward | Posted 6/5/2009 4:29:10 AM | message detail
So....MGS4 will begin to build on its lead again while school is in session?
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/5/2009 4:31:12 AM | message detail
uh... you do realize the true morning vote doesnt start till after 7, right? 6-7 is still late night/europe vote.

On school days? Not really.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/5/2009 4:33:17 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #280
uh... you do realize the true morning vote doesnt start till after 7, right? 6-7 is still late night/europe vote.

On school days? Not really.


I've always noticed it doesn't really come into effect till 7. Night games always do well up until that point. And as we see, MGS started dropping in % since then..
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/5/2009 4:38:05 AM | message detail
Anyway, from the looks of this, at the very least its gonna be a stall during the morning vote... which is about all Smash can really ask for since its not a morning game at all. Its all about asv
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psychward | Posted 6/5/2009 4:38:45 AM | message detail
It is dropping a percentage but it seems to be holding its lead for now. SFF from both Zelda AND Resident Evil?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/5/2009 4:41:41 AM | message detail
From 7:35 to the end of the match last round, MGS4 and SSBB did a 3.68% swing.

We have a 3.65% difference now.
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psychward | Posted 6/5/2009 4:45:21 AM | message detail
No SFF for Brawl last round though. Can't remember but didn't RE4 start out as a game cube exclusive?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/5/2009 4:46:20 AM | message detail
Yeah but it mainly sold on PS2, so I wouldn't really count that as a SFF for Brawl. I'd expect RE4 to hurt MGS4 more, honestly.
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psychward | Posted 6/5/2009 4:50:16 AM | message detail
Probably. But RE4 hitting the GameCube first was a huge feather in the cap to Nintendo and their fans because of the whole kiddie label. With RE4 they not only shed that label to a degree but also gave said "nintendo is kiddie" crowd a big F U when it was pretty much a concensus game of the year.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/5/2009 4:57:56 AM | message detail
actually on second thought, i do think mgs4 is the favorite here. I was expecting Smash to be doing more then just stabalizing its percentage in the morning
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 6/5/2009 5:02:51 AM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #288
actually on second thought, i do think mgs4 is the favorite here.


No, never!?!? Was it TP draining the Smash morning vote or the 1600 vote lead that gave it away?
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psychward | Posted 6/5/2009 5:04:33 AM | message detail
I imagine TP will do the same with Brawl's ASV? I mean, the huge ASV Legend of Zelda got the other day against SMB3 and SMW will hold true for Twilight Princess as well right?
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 6/5/2009 5:08:49 AM | message detail
Smash Bros tends to be the best in the Nintendo chain for the ASV so it won't do better but it will hurt Brawl for it.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/5/2009 5:39:14 AM | message detail
Didn't luster say for the goty match, MGS4 got its biggest lead at like 6:57? It was apparently still gaining at this time then

That was in the 2-way GotY final. In the 3-way GotY final, it got its biggest lead at 6:22 AM.

MGS4/Brawl by the hour:

Time | Today | In the 3-way GotY final
1:00 | 51.60% | 49.65%
2:00 | 50.96% | 51.85%
3:00 | 54.77% | 52.66%
4:00 | 56.04% | 53.96%
5:00 | 56.32% | 53.70%
6:00 | 55.71% | 55.56%
7:00 | 56.45% | 51.07%
8:00 | 51.38% | 47.37%

I included the 3-way GotY final for comparison purposes. It's strange how both of the GotY finals (2-way and 3-way) both occured on a weekday just like today's match is, yet the trends for the GotY don't seem to be relevent here. MGS4 was already losing whole hours to Brawl just last hour and while MGS4 dropped off quite a bit last hour for today's match, it's still winning whole hours on Brawl.
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awesomepossum00 | Posted 6/5/2009 5:56:13 AM | message detail
The more games involved the better MGS4 does. The core fanbase is dedicated... don't need fancy numbers too see this. Reference the few polls @ your disposal and its plain as day :)

MGS4 > Brawl!!! :D (on a side note... someone needs to tell resident evil it's not against scrub games anymore... overperformance anyone?)
charmander6000 | Posted 6/5/2009 5:58:43 AM | message detail
Actually RE4 is underperforming, even going by last round stats it should be doing better.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: RE4 > LoZ: TP Points: 355/480
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/5/2009 6:01:10 AM | message detail
Hey look, MGS4 made it to that 1500 vote lead after all. It'd be cool if TP could make a comeback on Brawl during the ASV. That'd be epic. I'm kinda surprised it's still only 1000 behind. Looks like it barely managed to prevent RE4 from taking a lead overnight.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/5/2009 6:02:27 AM | message detail
RE4 may still take the lead during the DSV.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: RE4 > LoZ: TP Points: 355/480
The Mana Sword | Posted 6/5/2009 6:13:49 AM | message detail
Not bad, MGS4, not bad.

Brawl and MGS4 have a neat little rivalry thing going on.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 6/5/2009 6:25:46 AM | message detail
Aw man, I just realized I'm getting 0 points for this match. Haven't had a 0 point match since we were doing 1 on 1s.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/5/2009 6:41:53 AM | message detail
MGS4/Brawl by the hour:

Time | Today | In the 3-way GotY final
1:00 | 51.60% | 49.65%
2:00 | 50.96% | 51.85%
3:00 | 54.77% | 52.66%
4:00 | 56.04% | 53.96%
5:00 | 56.32% | 53.70%
6:00 | 55.71% | 55.56%
7:00 | 56.45% | 51.07%
8:00 | 51.38% | 47.37%
9:00 | 50.66% | 49.08%

Brawl did even better last hour, but still hasn't managed to win a single hour over MGS4 yet. Okay, I give it 2 more hours for the Europe vote to wear off and allow Brawl to start winning whole hours on MGS4. TP is probably weakening Brawl worse than I thought, preventing Brawl from winning hours over MGS4 during the same hours that Brawl started pulling a comeback on MGS4 in the GotY final. Brawl also had no other Nintendo competition in the GotY final.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/5/2009 6:57:17 AM | message detail
Looks like Brawl is going to win its first hour.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: RE4 > LoZ: TP Points: 355/480