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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 743
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/4/2009 8:28:25 PM | message detail |
"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/4/2009 8:30:22 PM | message detail |
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6480/19982009.gif ART. --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
paulg235 | Posted 6/4/2009 8:31:37 PM | message detail |
Alright, we get it. It's Art. --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/4/2009 8:32:08 PM | message detail |
as long as somebody does! some people deny my talent --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/4/2009 8:32:14 PM | message detail |
Don't worry. He just wants you to say it's bad so he can rave about it. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/4/2009 8:33:21 PM | message detail |
WHAT?! BAD FFFFFFFF --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
ZFS | Posted 6/4/2009 8:34:01 PM | message detail |
Big Boss boost book it --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/4/2009 8:35:55 PM | message detail |
Hmmm, I wonder if the new games actually will effect anything. I bet Metal Gear Solid Arcade will! Who isn't pumped for that one?! --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
XxSoulxX | Posted 6/4/2009 9:08:16 PM | message detail |
Aww yeah Top 3! First time ever reaching so high on this. Come on TP > RE4, FF7 > LttP, OoT > FFX, FF7 > OoT! --- Good Times, Great Memories |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/4/2009 9:08:51 PM | message detail |
Metal Gear Hype Boost Confirmed --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/4/2009 9:09:33 PM | message detail |
This update is going to be epic... --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: RE4 > LoZ: TP Points: 355/480 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 6/4/2009 9:09:38 PM | message detail |
Zelda Wii Hype Boost Confirmed!! --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/4/2009 9:09:40 PM | message detail |
I
think people are just underestimating TP here. It's a top 15-20 game,
and this match basically proves it. Brawl wasn't going to wreck it.
There was no reason to believe that. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
masseffect90 | Posted 6/4/2009 9:09:41 PM | message detail |
If the final is FF7/FFX/OoT/LttP, does FFX hurt FF7 more, or does LttP hurt OoT more? Or does full on " Zelda vs Final Fantasy kick in", and nobody votes for FFX or LttP? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:15 PM | message detail |
RE4 done --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:16 PM | message detail |
MEGATON --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
ZFS | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:19 PM | message detail |
Metal Gear Solid 4 --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:20 PM | message detail |
HOLY VOTE SWING --- Wylvane's current main account. |
Master Moltar | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:20 PM | message detail |
all hail snake and mgs4 --- Moltar Status: complete global saturation Match 60 - Bracket: MGS4 > TP - Vote: MGS4 (359/480) |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:23 PM | message detail |
Snake Stealthily sneaks into the lead! --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
XxSoulxX | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:24 PM | message detail |
Game. **** RE4! --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:28 PM | message detail |
METAL GEAR?!?!?! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:28 PM | message detail |
yeah, brawl sucks --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
RockMFR 5 | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:30 PM | message detail |
OH LAWD --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:36 PM | message detail |
Remember pre-contest people were saying RE4 would beat Brawl? 'lol RE4' --- http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/War13104/CenaJFrog.gif hey look i'm war and i'm stupid - WVI |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:37 PM | message detail |
Wow, RE4 collapsed while MGS4 took first place. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:39 PM | message detail |
yeah, I told you RE4 had no chance --- Today's prediction: Browl 28.88% - Nanomachines 25.33% - Twilight 24.66% - Mistah Kennedy 21.13% Status: |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:40 PM | message detail |
Don't die RE4 also lol Brawl. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: RE4 > LoZ: TP Points: 355/480 |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:41 PM | message detail |
No, RE4! Well, looks like MGS4 > Brawl will be our result, barring anything really surprising. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
Lopen | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:42 PM | message detail |
Metal Gear !?! (Augh RE4 why) --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
transients | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:47 PM | message detail |
aww yeah there goes MGS4 I don't think Melee would be wrecking this poll. it got 33% on a weaker poll where it was the only Nintendo option. --- xyzzy |
hochiminhX | Posted 6/4/2009 9:10:55 PM | message detail |
Yeah, today is MGS4 > SSBB. Next. --- I will bury you. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/4/2009 9:11:01 PM | message detail |
Brawl is splitting with TP here. This is pretty obvious, I think. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
shadow8021 | Posted 6/4/2009 9:11:02 PM | message detail |
Super Smash Bros. LAWL --- 2008 Hickory Cross Country Becoming One |
paulg235 | Posted 6/4/2009 9:11:21 PM | message detail |
TP could still advance. It's within 100 votes. --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
ZFS | Posted 6/4/2009 9:11:37 PM | message detail |
Let's get TP over Brawl here and we could have something amazing --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
transients | Posted 6/4/2009 9:11:49 PM | message detail |
41 trannyscience 356 Final Fantasy VII ...what --- xyzzy |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/4/2009 9:11:54 PM | message detail |
This match is ridiculous. At least if MGS4 wins, it's a chance to regain points until my bracket is destroyed! --- Wylvane's current main account. |
ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 6/4/2009 9:12:19 PM | message detail |
Wow, so is Mario Galaxy seriously that weak? Such a shame too since I love the game. --- Awaiting Final Fantasy XIII |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/4/2009 9:12:28 PM | message detail |
From: transients | #031 I guess we'll wait two days. If FFX beats MGS4 handily, I doubt you can call this the stronger poll. Also, the percentage discrepancy is too big. What if Brawl only finishes at like 29%? These three would have to be a fair bit stronger, and I don't buy that. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
Master Moltar | Posted 6/4/2009 9:12:39 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #036 I'm finally on the leaderboard and that would probably put me in the top 10 i'll accept this --- Moltar Status: complete global saturation Match 60 - Bracket: MGS4 > TP - Vote: MGS4 (359/480) |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/4/2009 9:13:15 PM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #036 You got yerself a deal buddy. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
ff6man | Posted 6/4/2009 9:13:29 PM | message detail |
Come on MGS4 over Brawllllllllllllll!!!!!! --- Rs Name: Igglybuff138 - Skill Total - 1830+ - Combat level 119 - 283/283 Quest Points - BGE Contest Score: 313 (Today: MGS4 > Brawl) |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/4/2009 9:13:33 PM | message detail |
Come on FFX SFFing MGS4 and Brawl being stronger than OoT! My bracket's so ****ed. --- Wylvane's current main account. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/4/2009 9:13:36 PM | message detail |
Let's get TP over Brawl here and we could have something amazing I like the cut of your jib. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/4/2009 9:13:45 PM | message detail |
Nearly 10% more had FFVII in the semis than OoT. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/4/2009 9:13:45 PM | message detail |
Needs more RE4 IMO. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: RE4 > LoZ: TP Points: 355/480 |
__hiei__ | Posted 6/4/2009 9:13:57 PM | message detail |
gamefaqs....has changed. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/4/2009 9:14:05 PM | message detail |
Time to start the MGS4 bandwagon and make Menji's prediction come true --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
Scott_Pilgrim | Posted 6/4/2009 9:14:08 PM | message detail |
Let's not go nuts people, Brawl > MGS4 is still a lock. Yes I am just trying to make myself feel better. --- Oh, sorry, I got distracted by FastFalcon. http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=169 |