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You can't blame GTA3 for KotOR's overperformance. Also before VC most people had GTA3 at a distant third.

In hindsight Vice City did as expected at worst and GTA4 had no problems in round 1 and even in the second round it still got a half decent percent and managed to defeat Galaxy.

You may be mistaking me. I don't have too much of a problem saying KotOR has some strength. However, I've always seen "disappointment" as a perception issue. Before the contest, saying GTA3 losing to KotOR would probably have been seen as a disappointment.

As for GTA4, yes, it advanced with no problem, but I think SF4's performance unfairly hurts its perception.

If someone said before the contest that GTA4 would double SF4, what would think?

Now, if someone said before the contest that GTA4 would double Persona 4, what would you think?

As it turned out, these were actually the same thing, which I have to imagine is overall worse than expected.

Objectively, GTA4 advanced with ease, but from a perception point of view, it looked a lot worse than it needed to, or probably even deserved to. I never said it was fair.
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Before the contest, saying GTA3 losing to KotOR would probably have been seen as a disappointment.

I expected KOTOR to beat GTA III, but I think was in the minority there.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
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Is this the NRT tournament you guys are talking about? How exactly does it work? I wasn't around for any of the previous ones.

It's two contests, the first one only has characters that have never been to a contest while the other has characters that's been to previous contests, but missed the previous two. As a board we vote for who we want to support, usually the final rounds are a round robin. At the end there's a topic where we sign up our support for the winners.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > FFX Points: 323/448

Anyway, do you suppose we should abbreviate the term "Bandwagonning" to TBF/BWF like we did with like every other factor?
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You may be mistaking me. I don't have too much of a problem saying KotOR has some strength. However, I've always seen "disappointment" as a perception issue. Before the contest, saying GTA3 losing to KotOR would probably have been seen as a disappointment.

Sure, but when the same game leads Halo for most of the day the preception is obviously wrong.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > FFX Points: 323/448

Sure, but when the same game leads Halo for most of the day the preception is obviously wrong.

It was, but personally I see "disappointment" was compared to pre-contest assumptions/belief. If you went back and looked at the contest after the fact, things change a little.

Although, I may use disappointment different than the majority.
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ART.
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I don't any MGS4 representation there. Otherwise, I'd give it a thumbs up.
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It was, but personally I see "disappointment" was compared to pre-contest assumptions/belief. If you went back and looked at the contest after the fact, things change a little.

I could also tell you that not many people expected GTA3 to be so close to Diablo II and Halo, with that logic we'll be going around in circles.

KotOR was the anomaly not GTA3.
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From: paulg235 | Posted: 6/4/2009 2:47:42 PM | #258
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I don't any MGS4 representation there. Otherwise, I'd give it a thumbs up.

THE BARREL, FOOL
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Oh. Very clever, Zen.
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Blasphemy, FFX is leon's favorite game? The world's coming to an end if Squall isn't your favorite character then.

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I could also tell you that not many people expected GTA3 to be so close to Diablo II and Halo, with that logic we'll be going around in circles.

We could, but since I also think that disappointment is subjective and varies on a person-to-person basis, I don't mind. I hardly expected everyone to agree on the same order or even series.

KotOR was the anomaly not GTA3.

I agree.

Again, I never said my view is exactly fair since it relies completely on pre-contest notions and doesn't adjust for unexpected performances that had nothing to do with the game(s) in question, but at the same time, I don't expect others to just agree with it either. Disappointment is just way too subjective for that.
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Looks like the ASV has arrived.

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That's a DRUM CAN, Zen.

WHAT ARE YOU, BLIND? JEEEEEEEEZUS.
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Looks like Pokemon will outperform Melee with this block (wait for the West Coast ASV aka Zelda Wrecking Train).
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So FFVII got about 41% yesterday and ooT is going to get 41%.

Who is stronger atm?
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Pokemon RBY is like 3.8k votes behind FFX, i don't see how RBY would be able to kill that sort of lead. Even Link wouldnt be able to pull that off.
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"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus

RBY is benefitting most from the asv (beating Smash and Zelda in ASV % gain? Wow)... too bad it wasn't closer going into the asv or we may have had a match here
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Yeah, RBY's cut a little more than 100 within the last hour and a half. It might get the lead under 3000, but that's as far as it'll go.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

can we describe this effect as "holy **** wat" fanbase factor, after my vote on melee to help minor sff and shove it past whatever the non-nintendo game is in the match.

losing to pokemon. jesus.

4-way matches suck.
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SSBM is being heavily SFF'd by OoT. Not Pokemon .If You replace OoT with some thing like MGS Melee would win this.
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SSBM is being heavily SFF'd by OoT. Not Pokemon .If You replace OoT with some thing like MGS Melee would win this.

yes i ****ing know that. the point is that seeing how teh pokemans are nintendo as well, how are they beating melee?
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Super Metroid's Path To Glory: R3 vs. A Link to the Past, FF3, Link's Awakening

Hot dog, Ocarina of Time. It's back to world-beating status after taking a nap that last round.
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Actually, RBY has now cut less than 100 votes in 2 and a half hours since the ASV began. It may not get down under 2500. FFX is dropping like crazy in percentage, but RBY isn't really cutting.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

Its not getting anywhere near 2500 at this rate.
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Looks like FFX is pulling a round 2 MGS with three Nintendo day votes, maybe...?
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

Is there a guide around here for all this crazy terminology with ASV and whatnot? >.>..
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>_>

the first post of this topic

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Enjoy but try not to become as nerdy as us we're pretty far gone man
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none of the *SV things are there, actually. Maybe it needs an update? I did find ASV with a manual search, but there is no DSV on the site (but I'll assume it means during school vote).
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Xialon, 80 Blood Elf Priest , Twisting Nether
Xialoh, 80 Blood Elf Rogue, Twisting Nether

We should try to get Maxim in from Lufia 2. Seeing how weak Lufia 2 is, he might be the weakest character we've ever had.
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Boring match is boring .. Can OoT rise up to 41% by the end of the match?

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but there is no DSV on the site (but I'll assume it means during school vote).

You are correct.

Doubt OoT gets to 41% though.

So...what about this RBY unable to make a move on FFX due to triple Nintendo day vote stuff I mentioned last night? I feel like it's been somewhat validated, but if someone's got a different explanation, I want to hear it.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
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From: LeonhartFour | #284
So...what about this RBY unable to make a move on FFX due to triple Nintendo day vote stuff I mentioned last night? I feel like it's been somewhat validated, but if someone's got a different explanation, I want to hear it.

I think its the fact its 4k down. 4k down isn't easy to make big cuts
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G/S cut MGS all day long during the ASV being down far more.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

It's already getting a KH level ASV here. If you want a comeback you'd need a lot better than that(and anyone who expected a lot better is a bit crazy)
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G/S was 6k down and didn't have any trouble making cuts on MGS.

The explanation is that MGS's day vote is just that bad, and Pokemon just had the opportunity to take advantage of it. FFX still has a vote intake worth a damn during the day (at least compared to MGS), so RBY isn't able to do anything while being down by this much.

G/S didn't so much hinder RBY's day vote by being there - RBY's day vote was fine that match from an absolute votes standpoint. What it did do, however, was suck it up in the early stages much more than it should have, due to the concerted effort from the voters trying to get RBY over MGS that match. RBY having a much stronger early vote means that its day vote isn't going to look as good - or, to put it another way, MGS would have probably been up by a LOT more had that concerted effort been absent. Snake/Cloud/Sephiroth, yo.
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G/S cut MGS all day long during the ASV being down far more.

G/S has a better day vote, and in terms of percentage they were both down equal amounts roughly.
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That makes sense. Some people were saying that FFX's day vote probably wasn't much better than MGS's though, which I disagreed with anyway.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

well, today answers a lot of questions. it pretty much confirms FF7 > FF10 > the rest. it proves that either RBY is immune to Nintendo games or that it's the very clear #3 on this site (I won't count this out). it gives us a second tier of LTTP/SM64/SMW/SMB3/RBY, with Brawl being the last question mark on the list (and even Melee might belong here; who knows with SFF).

tomorrow should be interesting.
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Good show by FFX. Knew the talk about this 1500 vote comeback was pretty silly.

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1500 vote comeback would have been a reality if it was only down 1500 votes. it's down much more so it has to go that much further in order to just stall.

the fact that it's stalling now despite being down 4000 votes is pretty amazing.
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regardless, RBY is for real. who woulda thought before this contest it could actually get this far
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Well, that was part of it. No idea why people expected FFX to only be up 1500 votes heading into the ASV, or wherever it was people were expecting this to happen. I mean, when we were talking about this FFX was up around 500 votes, and that was before the time when FF games usually go on a tear. Seemed rather clear last night FFX was going to win this. But oh well, just good to see it happening !

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ffx is doing over a % better on OoT then either lttp or sm64 in the past two rounds > _ >.. so unless you think ffx > lttp/sm64 this isnt looking good for oot; who on top of it all, is sffing melee to hell.
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Nominate Red XIII for the Character Battle VII!
He's the Lion with a fire tail from Final Fantasy VII.

yeah, this was over after ten minutes. maybe two minutes.
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xyzzy

We were talking it about it before the match even started!
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I figured it was over when FFX was beating RBY at the freeze, but darn it, trend master red sox made me hesitant.
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
"I am lightning...the rain transformed."

ffx is doing over a % better on OoT then either lttp or sm64 in the past two rounds > _ >.. so unless you think ffx > lttp/sm64 this isnt looking good for oot; who on top of it all, is sffing melee to hell.

Alternatively, FFX's in a match with three Nintendo games, and is definitely benefiting from that (though everyone thought FFX > SM64 before the contest anyway, so it's not like that's impossible either).
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