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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1644

That's why.
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My match prediction:

We've got the Best. Game. Ever., along with...three titles that are in tier 2 for me. All three of those games have a chance at taking 2nd place, so let's investigate them all.

Super Smash Bros. Melee, the best fighter on the GameCube, is probably least likely to take 2nd place. On the one hand it looks like the kind of game with a hardcore fanbase, but I just think that it will get SFFd by Zelda 64 here. Sure it didn't feel SFF from the entire Mario series, but that's because most Ninty fans who came in with the GameCube liked Melee more than Mario Sunshine, which was the decline of Mario anyways (odd seeing how Super Mario Sunshine is more critically acclaimed than Super Smash Bros. Melee, but whatever). This is OCARINA OF TIME, on the other hand.

Pokemon Red/Blue stood up very well to Zelda 64 last round, but is it possible that Metal Gear Solid was being SFFd by Ocarina of Time? It seems that the MGS series has not been doing very well against Nintendo, which could explain why Pokemon won against MGS; not necessarily because it was resisting SFF, but because MGS was getting hurt there. Then again, I'm throwing that theory out.

Final Fantasy X is probably stronger than Pokemon period, and will probably advance here.

Prediction: Zelda: Ocarina of Time > Final Fantasy X
Zelda: Ocarina of Time - 40%, Pokemon Red/Blue - 20%, Super Smash Bros. Melee - 19%, Final Fantasy X - 21%
Bracket: Zelda: Ocarina of Time > Metal Gear Solid (grrr)
Favorites: Zelda: Ocarina of Time > Pokemon Red/Blue (go Pokemon! Kill these rehashes!)
Favorites Bracket: Zelda: Ocarina of Time > Metal Gear Solid

So why is everyone so sure that lttp would hurt OOT more than what Mario 64 would in the finals?

I imagine it's because it's hard to imagine LttP could do any worse than SM64 did when it went 1v1 against OoT in 2k4. Of course, it's impossible to know if it'd still be that bad if a rematch were held.
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1 hour to go, Mario needs 19.58 votes per update to come back.
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From: red sox 777 | #154
1 hour to go, Mario needs 19.58 votes per update to come back.

we just need a few 50 vote spikes from those cheaters
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1644

That's why.

Im not trying to undermine a previous match. But that's a two way. Is there a two way match between LTTP and OOT aswell?

I dunno, but the reason i asked my question is this: Wouldn't Zelda fans be more prone to vote for the better zelda game? Or would Mario fans be more prone to vote for the better zelda game?
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better zelda game

There's your problem.
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We've never seen an entity cheat steal back-to-back matches before now. Is Mario shameless enough to pull it off tonight?
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From: paulg235 | #158
That was NOT a good update for LttP.

Please stop posting.
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well this looks very much over.

come on 11:45
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Once again why are we arguing that the closer two games are the worse the LFF affects the stronger or whatever? The worse OoT's opponent does, the better *everyone* does, not just OoT. There's not like 50% of the Nintendo vote that these games are forced to split or anything.
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That was NOT a good update for LttP.

I'm sure LttP would be thrilled if a Cut of 8 can be counted among its bad updates for the rest of the match.
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I want to see someone stuff 30,000 votes in an update. I find it very hard to believe that the software/technology for this is not out there.
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A lot of people, including myself, think LTTP is better than OOT.

From: PartOfYourWorld | #164
I want to see someone stuff 30,000 votes in an update. I find it very hard to believe that the software/technology for this is not out there.

oh man
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Different question. Does FF7 stay above 40%? It still seems to be dropping.
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That's really not true- that is what LFF is all about, actually. If X does worse against OOT because it is weaker than Y, then yes, it does not matter because it affects all the games equally. If X does worse than Y because X gets SFFed harder, while both have the same amount of disproportionate overlap with OOT, then Y hurts OOT more than X.
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Mario cutting more than 222 votes in the final 50 minutes seems unlikely. Frog could have done that.
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tennisboy213 | Posted 6/3/2009 8:11:03 PM | message detail
A lot of people, including myself, think LTTP is better than OOT.

Most people, including myself, think OoT is better than ALttP.
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Mario gained 518 votes on Crono in the final 52 minutes of Mario/Crono 2.
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Mario gained 518 votes on Crono in the final 52 minutes of Mario/Crono 2.

2k2 and 2k3 Mario is just in a whole different category though. I think Starcraft is the only other entity I'd put in that tier.

Even Frog has nothing on the downright ridiculous things Mario did back then.

SMB3 yesterday was nothing but a shadow of Mario's more infamous comebacks.
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In fact, here's the updates for Mario's ridiculous final 2 hours. Note that matches in 2003 usually began before midnight, when CJayC manually updated the poll, but most started around 11:45. Mario/Crono II started at 11:40, so it ended up running 24:27. Mario also won the board vote pretty big, so he did not win any consecutive segment of 24 hours.

22:00 Mario | 60646 | 49.68% | Crono | 61435 | 50.32% | lead of 789 | ( up 15 )
22:15 Mario | 61261 | 49.69% | Crono | 62024 | 50.31% | lead of 763 | ( down 26 )
22:30 Mario | 61883 | 49.73% | Crono | 62558 | 50.27% | lead of 675 | ( down 88 )
22:45 Mario | 62520 | 49.77% | Crono | 63091 | 50.23% | lead of 571 | ( down 104 )
23:00 Mario | 63150 | 49.80% | Crono | 63661 | 50.20% | lead of 511 | ( down 60 )
23:15 Mario | 63823 | 49.85% | Crono | 64204 | 50.15% | lead of 381 | ( down 130 )
23:30 Mario | 64531 | 49.89% | Crono | 64826 | 50.11% | lead of 295 | ( down 86 )
23:45 Mario | 65273 | 49.94% | Crono | 65424 | 50.06% | lead of 151 | ( down 144 )
24:00 Mario | 66266 | 50.03% | Crono | 66174 | 49.97% | lead of 92 | ( up 243 )
24:07 Mario | 66571 | 50.05% | Crono | 66434 | 49.95% | lead of 137 | ( up 45 )
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If X does worse than Y because X gets SFFed harder, while both have the same amount of disproportionate overlap with OOT, then Y hurts OOT more than X.

But if X and Y both LFF one entrant down to say 30.00 on BL, why does it matter how low they go? You can use that after the fact, if one entrant is hurt badly enough, but not ahead of time. I would imagine LFF works more in line with affecting Base Link numbers than with the percentage in the poll; I guess we just disagree.
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FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest!

I'll never forget the boards reaction to that match. It went absolutely insane. Even better was the next day people who went to bed early were so amazed at the comeback in disbelief that they kept asking if Ceej had messed up the bracket and mistakenly labeled Mario the winner. It was just chaos.
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Even Frog has nothing on the downright ridiculous things Mario did back then.

What did Mario do in 2K2? Planet Gamecube posted the link but other than that, nothing seems suspicious looking back. Mario's comeback against Cloud is in line with trends for entrants from recent games (Kratos has similar numbers against Alucard, and I think Kingdom Hearts might too in 2006), and Mario should have beaten Crono with close to 51% once you take away all of Crono's stuffed votes.
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FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest!

GodDAMN. I had forgotten how big of a turn-around that was. I don't think we'll see come-backs that huge again.
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Hah, I remember HM going to sleep before it all went down.

Anyway, I just started a new FFX file, and I did it for a reason.
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Mario/Crono II was the match that got me to actively lurk Board 8, I think, and probably the match that definitely got me interested in the contests ever since.

At a time I thought it was the first match I came to Board 8 for, but since then I've remembered seeing the Link/Magus hype (Oh, how far we've moved from that) that was going on here, so I was here a bit earlier.
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Mario gained 518 votes on Crono in the final 52 minutes of Mario/Crono 2.

That's more insane than anything Frog has done.
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There were probably a lot less anti-cheating methods in place back then
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From: The n00b Avenger | #182
There were probably a lot less anti-cheating methods in place back then

Yes, as in... there were none
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Yep, I went to bed thinking Crono had in won. Woke up in the morning before school to vote on Sephy/Alucard and decided to check how much Crono ended up winning by. Absolute shock.

Heh, I remember going to school with a guy who paid attention to the contests, and I told him Mario ended up winning. Absolute shock, and he was ticked off, too.
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I guess we won't be seeing those weird spikes tonight .. <.< .. Albion, Hochi, you guys given up?

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Awaiting Final Fantasy XIII

I have, its too big of a lead
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That's more insane than anything Frog has done.

Frog's numbers from the height of Axel's peak lead, to when he took back the lead an hour and a half later are actually bigger, once you adjust for the difference in votals (Keep in mind that "Axel/Frog" only got 50,000 votes.)
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FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest!

they're just waiting...

But if X and Y both LFF one entrant down to say 30.00 on BL, why does it matter how low they go? You can use that after the fact, if one entrant is hurt badly enough, but not ahead of time. I would imagine LFF works more in line with affecting Base Link numbers than with the percentage in the poll; I guess we just disagree.

I don't see the distinction here between before/after and BL numbers/poll percentages. LFF always hurts both characters, the extent of the SFF determines who is hurt more. The damage is "shared-out," so to speak. Preserving the actual strength and overlap relationship of 2 games, and just changing the amount of SFF between them, the total amount of damage remains the same.
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BOLD PREDICTION: Mario to get four 50 vote spikes in the last four updates!

BELIEVE!

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Awaiting Final Fantasy XIII

under 200
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Oh hey, Cheatario has woken up!
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22 vote cut there. Mario needs 32.33~ per update to tie.
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22 vote cut

Don't give up until 11:45
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"But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside."
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Current lead: 194
Updates left: 6
Votes per update: 32.33~

If you're gonna do it, paison...
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11:45 Down 80
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BOLD PREDICTION: Mario to get four 50 vote spikes in the last four updates!

There are 6 updates left, not 4. So it's less than 50 vote cuts.
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OVER
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