GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 741
paulg235 | Posted 6/3/2009 2:30:16 PM | message detail |
How many close matches do you want, Mario? ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:47:29 PM | message detail |
We've got a topic making lurker here. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/3/2009 5:38:09 PM | message detail |
I think he's trying to catch up to Ulti. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 5:39:24 PM | message detail |
KP,
are you honestly trying to say the difference in Pikachu and Charizards
strength would be the difference between Tidus and Auron? Pikachu is
the strongest pokemon for a reason; its the face of the franchise. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 6/3/2009 5:39:27 PM | message detail |
If mario doesn't start riding the shell soon, Link is gonna hookshot his way to victory. --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 6/3/2009 5:39:31 PM | message detail |
Tag --- "Here I go! Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/3/2009 5:40:22 PM | message detail |
Zen Analyzes the Match Pic! Seasons don't fear the Picsmith. Nor do the wind, the sun and the rain. http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-59-1.jpg For some reason when I see this I instantly remember this: http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6627/rutovt1.jpg I think I made that like 3 years ago when I didn't know what Photoshop was. Probably better than Atlas Hale anyway! So, hmm, this pic is strange. Jynx is the first black chick ever in a pic I believe. GameFAQs: Breaking racial barriers one at a time.I honestly can't say I'm thrilled with the blurry art choices of Zelda, Peach and Rikku but whatever boobs Overall: 9/10 Balanced?: No Gimmicky?: No Advantage: Black Booty http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-59-2.jpg Submitted version: http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2254/r4pokemonrby6x.png lol kp mess up. This is the second time Bacon has edited a user image. The first was Smilin' Squall. Good, good times. I've liked this one since KP showed me. You know he made all these based around Pokemon? That's why the URL for all six of his pics for this match all say "Pokemon" and not "1998-2000" or something. Oh KP. The only thing I can complain about here is that Jecht is in the pic. He was barely in the game! I love him to death but we could have fit at least one of Lulu's boobs in that space. And I think that... ... YES! PUNCH! Overall: 9.5/10 Balanced?: Yes Gimmicky?: No Advantage: CAPTAIN FALCON http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-59-3.jpg Oooo, can't give this one as high a score because it's so clearly Poke-biased. I like it though but dammit KP you can't just make a cool Pokemon pic and pad it with semi-cool pics from the other games! Whatever I love that OoT art and FFX art so I can't complain. You could have put Falcon's nipples in there though. Overall: 8/10 Balanced?: Slightly to Pokemon Gimmicky?: No Advantage: Pokemons http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-59-4.jpg I really like this one. I dunno why. I don't like the blurry boxes though. Blurry works but it's slightly overkill. I give my appreciation to the background. Beautiful. But I don't think I would have picked cape Mario and Blastoise as my character renders. Overall: 8.5/10 Balanced?: Yes Gimmicky?: No Advantage: BLASTOISE: the best dad. http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/bge09/bge09-59-5.jpg WHY NOT BLITZBALL. I don't even remember a Chocobo minigame. The FFX pic is TERRIBLE. Why not Tidus and Wakka floating underwater or something? Blitzball wasn't the best minigame ever but you were force to play it and everyone has been crushed by Lucca at least once. And the Melee pic is SO BLURRY. Granted it was probably a ***** to even find a pic of that minigame but WE PICSMITHS MAKE NO EXCUSES. It took me forever to find a decent picture of SON OF A SUBMARINER but I did! ...From a Youtube video! BUT A YOUTUBE VIDEO ON HIGH QUALITY! AND I SHARPENED IT! CAPS! Other two pics are fine. No complaints there. Major point dockage for the other two though. Overall: 5.5/10 Balanced?: Not really Gimmicky?: Eh, not particularly, but the focus on minigames is kinda random. Creative, though. Advantage: Pokemon Summary: Best pic: 2 Worst pic: 5 Most controversial: 1 Overall Advantage: Pokemon Overall Disadvantage: FFX probably --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
transience | Posted 6/3/2009 5:40:33 PM | message detail |
man, that one stall by LTTP might have killed this match. what's the consensus here? LTTP the favourite? --- xyzzy http://penny-arcade.com/images/2009/20090603.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 5:41:19 PM | message detail |
well that update sucked. Mario is done me thinks --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
paulg235 | Posted 6/3/2009 5:42:11 PM | message detail |
329 votes to cut. 2 hours and 20 minutes to do so. Mario 64 still has this IMO. --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/3/2009 5:42:55 PM | message detail |
Whoa, great update by LTTP there. Mario will need to pull his clutch factor to win this one. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/3/2009 5:42:58 PM | message detail |
MEGATON --- No matter what, no matter how, I know I'll make it through somehow. http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Saturn.gif |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 5:43:10 PM | message detail |
If
LttP stalls like that again even once more, it'll win unless we see
some a hot repeat from Mario/Crono 2003. Otherwise, I THINK SM64 can
still win. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/3/2009 5:43:50 PM | message detail |
dammit KP you can't just make a cool Pokemon pic and pad it with semi-cool pics from the other games! *cough* Yeah, LTTP wins this. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 5:44:33 PM | message detail |
only way mario still has a chance is if it can take all that back in like one update --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 5:45:52 PM | message detail |
or LttP can gain 11 more. Yep, officially over --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/3/2009 5:46:04 PM | message detail |
Oh hey, time to stall at ~350 votes hmmm wonder who called this --- In-de-structable. Nothing's gonna stop me now. http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
paulg235 | Posted 6/3/2009 5:46:10 PM | message detail |
Then again, LttP is FINALLY using its ASV here. --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
Janus5000 | Posted 6/3/2009 5:50:01 PM | message detail |
As much as some hate Pikachu you can't really deny that it's the face of the game. Pikachu is the face of Pokémon as a whole, but that may not be a good thing. Charizard and Blastoise are definitely the top representatives for R/B, at least (and yes, this is based largely off of the cover arts). --- http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/HowDisturbing/stayawhile.jpg Stay a while and breathe me in. |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/3/2009 5:50:50 PM | message detail |
From: paulg235 | #014 Then again, LttP is FINALLY using its ASV here. bless you hawaiian asv --- I've been waiting for this moment all my life - it's my destiny. http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
hochiminhX | Posted 6/3/2009 5:56:52 PM | message detail |
LTTP Lead: 356 Updates left: 37 Cuts needed per update to win: 9.6 --- I will bury you. |
MegatokyoEd | Posted 6/3/2009 5:56:52 PM | message detail |
Yeah, Mario 64's dead barring some major shenanigans. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/3/2009 5:59:25 PM | message detail |
That sucks. 300 votes away from a much cooler next round match --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 6:01:05 PM | message detail |
15:00 | 48.81% 16:00 | 46.59% 17:00 | 49.36% 18:00 | 47.39% 19:00 | 47.23% 20:00 | 47.96% 21:00 | 49.05% I think this may be the end for Mario :( gg --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVII > LoZ: LttP Points: 291/416 |
iGenesis | Posted 6/3/2009 6:01:06 PM | message detail |
Ask your buddies to rally behind Mario. 300 votes can be overcome. --- GameFAQs.com: You make the content. CNET makes the money. http://lueshi.info/upload/Mario_Zelda_Pokemon_Tier_List.gif |
ObscureMammoth | Posted 6/3/2009 6:03:20 PM | message detail |
Yesterday at this time SMB3 led by 217 Today LttP is winning by 353. I think LttP has it. --- PNess SSBB FC - 2835-9755-3785 Vlado..thank god...another voice of sanity in this madhouse... - RealMarchhare |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/3/2009 6:09:18 PM | message detail |
Based on the last hour, SM64 takes the lead at 6:50 tomorrow morning. Based on the last half hour, SM64 never takes the lead. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
hochiminhX | Posted 6/3/2009 6:11:55 PM | message detail |
This might just be a stall-fest. *Sigh* It apears I have no choice I, Hochiminh, shall take matters into my own hands. To start, I have alerted the Halo boards among others. Let us see if LTTP can withstand my wheeling and dealing. --- I will bury you. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 6:12:34 PM | message detail |
Halo... boards? Like... shouldn't you alert mario boards or something --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/3/2009 6:12:48 PM | message detail |
Someone post on the WoW forums. They'd vote Mario over their own series! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
KingBartz | Posted 6/3/2009 6:12:52 PM | message detail |
Well, it looks like Mario's back to work again. --- Check out my Guru bracket: http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=60 GURU STATUS: Eliminated |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 6:13:26 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #030 heh good idea --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
hochiminhX | Posted 6/3/2009 6:15:30 PM | message detail |
I
promised 10 dollars via paypal if SM4 wins to everyone who voted for
it. People on those Halo forums are idiots after all. I shall now alert
various other forums promising them money via paypal if SM64 wins. --- I will bury you. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 6:15:34 PM | message detail |
This
sucks. C'mon, we REALLY need to rally this match to hell and back,
guys. I respect LttP and all...but who wants yet another boring set of
semis and a crappy final? Are there any Ninty boards we could alert? |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/3/2009 6:16:23 PM | message detail |
Hopefully the WoW fans would vote Zelda over their own series too. Actually, that would explain why WoW is so weak! Because its own fans do not like it enough to vote it over many things! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
hochiminhX | Posted 6/3/2009 6:16:30 PM | message detail |
The
Halo boards are way more active than the Mario boards. I don't know of
any active Mario boards. I know I've gotten at least 8 people thus far
from the Halo boards. --- I will bury you. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 6:17:06 PM | message detail |
It doesn't have to be JUST Mario. A general Nintendo board could do wonders here. |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/3/2009 6:17:42 PM | message detail |
A general Nintendo board would be just as likely to favor LTTP as SM64. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
__hiei__ | Posted 6/3/2009 6:17:57 PM | message detail |
i hope you people aren't rallying on gamefaqs boards because that's kinda pointless. >_> |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 6:18:58 PM | message detail |
"A general Nintendo board would be just as likely to favor LTTP as SM64." I think it'd swing hard in Mario's favor. Sure, Zelda is probably the more popular series in general...but this is SM64. A hardcore Ninty fan could very well vote for it simply out of respect. After SMB1, it's the game most likely to get respect votes. |
ObscureMammoth | Posted 6/3/2009 6:19:15 PM | message detail |
Or you could not rally. That'd be cool too. --- PNess SSBB FC - 2835-9755-3785 Vlado..thank god...another voice of sanity in this madhouse... - RealMarchhare |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 6:19:36 PM | message detail |
From: ObscureMammoth | #041 says the LttP fan --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/3/2009 6:19:46 PM | message detail |
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/3/2009 6:20:08 PM | message detail |
If we don't rally we're stuck with a snorefest next round --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
red sox 777 | Posted 6/3/2009 6:21:28 PM | message detail |
I
think it'd swing hard in Mario's favor. Sure, Zelda is probably the
more popular series in general...but this is SM64. A hardcore Ninty fan
could very well vote for it simply out of respect. After SMB1, it's the
game most likely to get respect votes. By this argument SM64 should be winning this poll easily. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
ObscureMammoth | Posted 6/3/2009 6:21:55 PM | message detail |
A Snorefest? It'd be the same match practically. 3 nintendo games fighting for second place. No matter what. --- PNess SSBB FC - 2835-9755-3785 Vlado..thank god...another voice of sanity in this madhouse... - RealMarchhare |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 6:22:01 PM | message detail |
From: The n00b Avenger | #044 seriously, we might as well skip that next round match since its a given LttP advances, but if we get sm64 to advance, we can have a great match --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
hochiminhX | Posted 6/3/2009 6:22:18 PM | message detail |
I will not
allow the contest to be ruined by having a boring semi-final match.
FFVII/SMW/SMB3/SM64 is a once in a lifetime opportunity here. Everyone,
it's high time we got busy. I find it's easier to get them to vote if
you promise them money via paypal. Keep it small and believable though.
10-15 dollars works best. --- I will bury you. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/3/2009 6:23:13 PM | message detail |
Well
I admit that if Mario 3 and World somehow make a match with LttP
despite splitting against each other and LttP being equal with Mario
64, I guess it would be a neat match to realize how freakishly strong
they are. But the possiblity of that happening seems pretty slim --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 6:26:03 PM | message detail |
seems your halo friends arent helping =\ --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |