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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 740

Yesmar | Posted 6/3/2009 2:51:48 PM | message detail
SMB3 and SMW are equal.

I say SM64 is equal to vote. If SM64 manages to pull the upset, I wouldn't be surprised to see all three Mario games even and fighting for second.

Such a match would be awesome for me to watch as a Mario fanboy, a Nintendo fan, a contest observer, and a human being


If they are all otherwise equal, I would expect SM64 to easily (by which I mean the same manner that SMW just won in) win due to the 2-D games leeching votes.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 6/3/2009 2:53:52 PM | message detail
At this point, does anyone but the people who are still voting for LttP want it to win? Most people here seem to want SM64 to advance, for good reason.

Another three way Mario games sounds awesome, but even if I root for Sm64 Lttp can also win. After all I gave it 10 in my review.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/3/2009 2:56:16 PM | message detail
West coast ASV is here. Righteous bra.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/3/2009 2:57:40 PM | message detail
You know... the East Coast does have far more Italians, while the West Coast has more fay blondes.
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paulg235 | Posted 6/3/2009 2:59:55 PM | message detail
I'm calling it for Mario, simply because I don't think LttP could perform a Mario when Mario64 is the second party.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:01:05 PM | message detail
15:00 | 48.81%
16:00 | 46.59%
17:00 | 49.36%
18:00 | 47.39%


Based on the last hour SM64 will take the lead at 22:20

Based on the last half hour SMre will take the lead at 21:55

Do the Mario!
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Flame_Hazard | Posted 6/3/2009 3:04:53 PM | message detail
At this point, does anyone but the people who are still voting for LttP want it to win? Most people here seem to want SM64 to advance, for good reason.

I'd say the people still voting for LttP (the ones who don't want SM64 to win) still want LttP to win. Seems like you answered your own question, but I may be reading wrong.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:05:14 PM | message detail
Mario 64 needs to cut 108.17 votes per hour to win.

Votes cut in the last hour: 126
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:05:53 PM | message detail
I voted for Mario 3 yesterday, but I was rooting for Zelda to make the comeback just because we needed a crazy match. Mario 3 won, and we got a crazy match anyway, so it's all good.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/3/2009 3:07:21 PM | message detail
Zelda was generally overshooting its requirements and still failed in the end. Mario64 just barely meeting what it needs to do means it's probably going to need some last hour shenanigans to win.

But it may get them!
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 6/3/2009 3:07:29 PM | message detail
I would love to see SM64 win. It would win next round too, and finally take its rightful place as the best Mario game ever. C'mon Mario, stomp that fairy boy into dust!
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 3:07:54 PM | message detail
"I'd say the people still voting for LttP (the ones who don't want SM64 to win) still want LttP to win. Seems like you answered your own question, but I may be reading wrong."

I meant people from the board. Most board 8'ers seem to have cast votes already and are cheering for SM64, not LttP.
iGenesis | Posted 6/3/2009 3:09:25 PM | message detail
>> I would love to see SM64 win. It would win next round too, and finally take its rightful place as the best Mario game ever.

LOL
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:09:57 PM | message detail
Only people without souls actually want Mario 64 to win.
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ExquisiteSamurai | Posted 6/3/2009 3:11:09 PM | message detail
Apparently I have no soul

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Denzokuken | Posted 6/3/2009 3:12:06 PM | message detail
Doesn't Mario 64 have a fairly poor last four hours/SNV? I'd still put LttP as the favourite barring an instance of the usual Mario voodoo in the dying minutes.
charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:13:34 PM | message detail
Doesn't Mario 64 have a fairly poor last four hours/SNV? I'd still put LttP as the favourite barring an instance of the usual Mario voodoo in the dying minutes.

Just like SMB3 LttP has the advantage because it has a large lead and anything could happen over the next few hours.
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paulg235 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:15:21 PM | message detail
Another 100 votes and this match is over.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:15:43 PM | message detail
Curse you West Coast ASV.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/3/2009 3:15:58 PM | message detail
FFVI will avoid the tripling here, which is another (debatable) indication that OoT would much rather have Mario 64 in the finals. Ocarina has already more than tripled Mario before, but if FFVII can't manage it against VI (with LttP possibly hurting it, to boot), then Ocarina shouldn't come close against a clearly stronger Zelda game.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 3:19:36 PM | message detail
under 600
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:19:47 PM | message detail
If SM64 makes it to the finals I think it'll do better than it did in 2004.

It'd still by crushed...
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 6/3/2009 3:20:15 PM | message detail

From: iGenesis | #363
>> I would love to see SM64 win. It would win next round too, and finally take its rightful place as the best Mario game ever.

LOL


Pfft, what do you think the best Mario game is? SMB3? Get that obsolete crap outta here. I never touched that game again after the superior SMW came along. SMW? It's the pinnacle of 2d Mario, sure, but i like the open 3d realms of Mario 64 even better.
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Piazza | Posted 6/3/2009 3:27:44 PM | message detail
100 vote cut in a half hour. It needs to keep this up though going into the night.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 3:28:45 PM | message detail
Mario should keep on cutting till the match is done. Lttp last round was being cut constantly by FF6 during SNV, and we know how mario performs in the SNV
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:28:55 PM | message detail
Mario Galaxy owns Mario 64.
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goku z | Posted 6/3/2009 3:29:19 PM | message detail
Just showed up and added my vote for SM64. By the way, Mario World getting recognition as the best Mario game was the ****.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:30:01 PM | message detail
What recognition? Mario World won once, and it lost once. We'll see what happens next round, especially if Mario 64 gets there.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:31:13 PM | message detail
105 votes cut by Mario 64 in the last thirty minutes. Time for LTTP to stall for the next thirty.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/3/2009 3:32:41 PM | message detail
Looks like this is Mario's, which will just raise more questions for next round.

Obviously, Mario 64 will be favored against two 2D Marios from the same era (they were released only about a year apart, right?), but how easily does it need to win before we christen it as the strongest game in the series?

Also, will FFVII hit 50% in the next round?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:33:45 PM | message detail
I don't think FFVII hits 50% next round unless we think FFVII is stronger than the Final Fantasy series as a whole.

...I suppose it's possible.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/3/2009 3:34:23 PM | message detail
Odd to see that LttP/SM64 is going the exact oposite of Mario 3/Zelda.

It makes pretty much no sense.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:35:10 PM | message detail
Hey, 13 vote gain for LTTP. Called it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 3:35:43 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #382
Odd to see that LttP/SM64 is going the exact oposite of Mario 3/Zelda.

It makes pretty much no sense.


it kinda does, since alot of us expected mario to win the asv here
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greatone10 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:36:05 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 6/3/2009 3:33:45 PM | #381
I don't think FFVII hits 50% next round unless we think FFVII is stronger than the Final Fantasy series as a whole.

...I suppose it's possible.


Hypothetically, if Final Fantasy series' strength was an average strength of all the major FF titles, FFVII would be stronger than the series.
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paulg235 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:36:05 PM | message detail
It think it's time to ask ourselves of what to do with FFX. I still think it advances (except now I think its chances of taking first are likely), but what is going to stop it reaching the final?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:37:01 PM | message detail
Nothing stops FFX from getting to the final if it advances tomorrow. Brawl, TP, MGS4, and RE4 ain't gonna do it. Brawl's the only game I could see beating it depending on how well Melee stands up to OoT.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 6/3/2009 3:37:14 PM | message detail
except now I think its chances of taking first are likely)

It has no chance in hell of getting first. It finishes second or third next match, with only RBY in it's way.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/3/2009 3:37:48 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #384
it kinda does, since alot of us expected mario to win the asv here


No, this makes sense, it's Zelda 1 beating Mario Freaking 3 with the ASV that's confusing.

I guess Zelda 1 is just 100% fanboy franchise votes and noone actually likes the game.
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greatone10 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:38:58 PM | message detail
Depends. I can't favor FFX if it barely advances, as it would take Triple Nintendo SFF and possibly the most severe Stand Out factor to do so. If it takes first, it may as well be a lock.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/3/2009 3:39:14 PM | message detail
You know, maybe I'm wrong. It's clear that LttP has lost a step - we just hadn't seen it fully until now because it was involved in SFF matches and against FFVI, which has lost an even bigger step. If age has cost it raw strength and relevance in the eyes of fans, maybe Ocarina actually can obliterate it in the finals. I mean, you show a picture of Ocarina Link against LttP Link...

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http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda03/Characters/Link.gif

I can only hope the pic makers have the same idea!
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:39:57 PM | message detail
Mario 64 is really making a comeback attempt! That's two matches in a row most people in this topic called early!

I am very happy to see CT's strength vindicated- it dropped a lot, but then CTDS boosted it back up most of the way to its 2004 strength. CT/LTTP should still be close- CT even has winning chances, who knows.

Feelings on the next few matches:

Tomorrow: I have a feeling RBY is going to impress, and FFX is going to flop. Melee probably flops too and takes last by a good margin.

Friday: I still think it's likely that neither Nintendo game advances, and don't count out RE4 for first yet....MGS3 >= MGS4....why not?

Saturday: Whichever game of LTTP/Mario 64 wins here goes to town on SMB3/SMW, both because they are probably a tad stronger naturally and because they have the advantage in the way LFF goes. FFVII kills them all really badly; if it's FFVII vs. Mario, it could even hit 50%.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:43:31 PM | message detail
I don't think LTTP has lost a step so much as everything outside the 32/64 division was OVERRATED (think Seph/Ganon/Bowser) to start with. It never made sense to me that after FFVII/OOT, it was so long until we got to another 32/64 game, since that ought to be and have been by far the time period.
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goku z | Posted 6/3/2009 3:43:55 PM | message detail
RE4 > TP? Madness.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 6/3/2009 3:44:01 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #376
Mario Galaxy owns Mario 64.


I've yet to play it so that's possible, but from what i've heard it does too much handholding and is too easy.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:44:45 PM | message detail
I don't recall Mario 64 being that difficult either.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:44:53 PM | message detail
RE4 > TP is hardly madness when it got like 49% on it in round 2, without a game called Super Smash Bros. Brawl in the poll!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:45:42 PM | message detail
Yes, but RE4 just got 42% on TP in round 3 with a game called Metal Gear Solid 3 in the poll!
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/3/2009 3:46:39 PM | message detail
Pft just you wait Brawl and MGS4 will 2008 LFF each other to death.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 3:46:58 PM | message detail
TP > RE4 again? Works for me!
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