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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 740

Julian_Caesar | Posted 6/3/2009 11:10:28 AM | message detail
Boost? FFVI is nothing but a drain on FFVII. Remove FFVI and FFVII wins by an even larger margin. By your terrible logic, a match with FFVII/FFVIII/FFVI/OoT would give FFVII a massive win because FFVII would be "boosted"

You mean by your logic. You completely ignored the most important point in my whole post, how convenient.

Answer this: How can FFVI be doing so much worse against LttP than it did last round? Again, considering that LttP is facing its toughest same-fanbase competitor yet? I'm talking about this particular match with these particular games...and the fact that FFVI is "mysteriously" underperforming against LttP now that a stronger FF game is in the match.

In the match you propose, of course OoT would win. It has no other Nintendo games to deal with. Now if you replace FFVIII or FFVI (whichever is stronger) with LttP...now THAT would be an interesting match.

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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 11:11:09 AM | message detail
Ah, what the heck. I'll jump into the train. Let's go! http://www.sextonivel.com/images/2008/04/fsdf.jpg
Ultimaphazon | Posted 6/3/2009 11:13:18 AM | message detail
Everytime someone mentions the RBY bandwagon, I get sick.
Nothing so far has indicated any kind of bandwagon for the game, and I see absolutely no reason why there would be a bandwagon for it.
it just doesn't make sense. It's always been this strong, from round 1 to round 3. It looked weaker in round 2, but it had GSC dragging it down, so that's to be expected.

Tomorrow will be OOT > FFX. Book it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 11:15:13 AM | message detail
it has now cut 70 votes last 40 minutes
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 11:15:22 AM | message detail
I don't believe RBY has a bandwagon either...yet. Bandwagons form when you get shocking results and upsets. Snake is the ultimate example of this, as we saw in the finals. IF RBY wins this match, it WILL have a bandwagon, most likely. For now, its relying on its strength, which I think is enough to beat FFX and Melee.
LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 11:16:04 AM | message detail
Hmmm...Mario 64's still got a shot at this. I'm impressed.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 11:16:50 AM | message detail
"it has now cut 70 votes last 40 minutes"

Is a Joker.gif imminent if SM64 manages to cut 100 votes before the hour ends? I kind of want to keep it bookmarked...
hochiminhX | Posted 6/3/2009 11:17:23 AM | message detail
You all ridiculed me but those small consistent cuts were a precursor to what is about to come. The ASV. The cuts will be amplified and LTTP will be completely overwhelmed. Witness the demise of yet another Zelda game.


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The Mana Sword | Posted 6/3/2009 11:17:25 AM | message detail
spoilers - 70 votes in 40 minutes still not enough to win
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transience | Posted 6/3/2009 11:17:29 AM | message detail
when RBY looks like it's on a different level from previous rounds, we can talk about a bandwagon. until then, let's not confuse bandwagons and our expectations being wrong.

Mario 64 looks like it's winding up for a big ASV here. still like LTTP though.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 11:18:21 AM | message detail
Hey, maybe we're looking at another 4 Zelda games eliminated in 5 days kinda thing. Whoo, OoT eliminated tomorrow and TP the next day!
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transience | Posted 6/3/2009 11:19:07 AM | message detail
2004'd
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 6/3/2009 11:19:28 AM | message detail
I don't even think a win tomorrow would create a bandwagon. There's a huge difference between beating FFX / Melee, and beating Cloud (or Sonic in Kirby's case).
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hochiminhX | Posted 6/3/2009 11:19:30 AM | message detail
In every single games contest we've had, Zelda always blows it towards the end of the contest. Remember the supposed Zelda Final four in 2004? Yet not a single Zelda game made it.

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The Mana Sword | Posted 6/3/2009 11:20:02 AM | message detail
In every single games contest we've had

darn tootin'
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 11:20:40 AM | message detail
"when RBY looks like it's on a different level from previous rounds, we can talk about a bandwagon. until then, let's not confuse bandwagons and our expectations being wrong.

Mario 64 looks like it's winding up for a big ASV here. still like LTTP though. "

Here's hoping for an absolutely insane ASV for SM64. It'll need it to beat LttP. In fact, I think it'll need a nice lead going into the SNV to have a shot. How big a lead would it need to be safe?
charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 11:22:41 AM | message detail
If SM64 wins this will be one of the best results ever.
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Flame_Hazard | Posted 6/3/2009 11:22:45 AM | message detail
was having trouble deciding between zelda and ff7, but I'm gonna go zelda just to try and help prevent this zelda slaughter the people here seem to want o_O sheesh people. It's a great series, and all the hate is unappreciated -_- imo.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 11:23:21 AM | message detail
"I don't even think a win tomorrow would create a bandwagon. There's a huge difference between beating FFX / Melee, and beating Cloud (or Sonic in Kirby's case)."

What would RBY need to start getting bandwagon votes? If it makes it to the finals, I'm thinking it WILL take second due to those votes. What's your stance on it?
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 11:23:40 AM | message detail
man FFX is gonna drop so much during the day tomorrow

against Zelda, Smash AND pokemon?
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Flame_Hazard | Posted 6/3/2009 11:23:51 AM | message detail
although I probably do actually like sm64 and ff7 more, I just dont want to see this killing 4 zelda games thing is all.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 11:24:16 AM | message detail
We've seen triple Nintendo LFF didn't make MGS drop much in round two.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 11:24:33 AM | message detail
Damn those Zelda stuffers!
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVII > LoZ: LttP Points: 291/416
Julian_Caesar | Posted 6/3/2009 11:24:47 AM | message detail
was having trouble deciding between zelda and ff7, but I'm gonna go zelda just to try and help prevent this zelda slaughter the people here seem to want o_O sheesh people. It's a great series, and all the hate is unappreciated -_- imo

Actually, a lot of Zelda fans probably voted for SM64 (including me). I really really like LttP, but I'm sick and tired of FFVII winning just because FF fans flock to it regardless of the fact that they like other games in the series better...if you can't beat em, join em.

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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 11:24:48 AM | message detail
"If SM64 wins this will be one of the best results ever."

What he said. The face of 3D gaming deserves to win over Zelda. Not to this Link's cash cow, but SM64 deserves it.
The Mana Sword | Posted 6/3/2009 11:24:55 AM | message detail
Link to the Beast
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hochiminhX | Posted 6/3/2009 11:25:54 AM | message detail
That was an illegitimate update from LTTP. I hope SBAllen has the decency to address this rampant fraud.

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charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 11:26:41 AM | message detail
man FFX is gonna drop so much during the day tomorrow

against Zelda, Smash AND pokemon?


*FFX in last in the power hour*
*FFX cuts OoT at night*
*FFX dies in the morning*
*FFX stabilizes*
*FFX dies during the ASV*
*FFX steals second with the SNV*

>_>
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 11:26:44 AM | message detail

From: hochiminhX | #127
That was an illegitimate update from LTTP. I hope SBAllen has the decency to address this rampant fraud.


lol
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/3/2009 11:26:48 AM | message detail
Man, I saw a newspaper today mention the Wii Vitality Sensor on the front page today.

Argh commercial success guaranteed
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 11:28:12 AM | message detail
Man, I saw a newspaper today mention the Wii Vitality Sensor on the front page today.

Argh commercial success guaranteed


I'm still wondering what it does besides measuring your heart rate.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 11:28:47 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #131
Man, I saw a newspaper today mention the Wii Vitality Sensor on the front page today.

Argh commercial success guaranteed


I'm still wondering what it does besides measuring your heart rate.


its perfect for the elderly!
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 11:29:47 AM | message detail
30 minutes before the ASV.

Let's do this.
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 6/3/2009 11:29:59 AM | message detail

From: KanzarisKelshen | #119
"I don't even think a win tomorrow would create a bandwagon. There's a huge difference between beating FFX / Melee, and beating Cloud (or Sonic in Kirby's case)."

What would RBY need to start getting bandwagon votes? If it makes it to the finals, I'm thinking it WILL take second due to those votes. What's your stance on it?


In the final it may get second, but Id still guess it takes third. OOT has probably more hardcore fans than RBY. RBY isn't beating OOT in any round until the finals, so no one following these contests will jump ship from OOT to RBY in hopes of seeing FFVII fail.
I'll believe in a RBY bandwagon when I see it, and I have some serious doubts. I honestly see a higher chance for a Mario 64 bandwagon if it beats LttP here. That would be more impressive than anything RBY can possibly do on its side of the bracket.
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Flame_Hazard | Posted 6/3/2009 11:30:21 AM | message detail
Actually, a lot of Zelda fans probably voted for SM64 (including me). I really really like LttP, but I'm sick and tired of FFVII winning just because FF fans flock to it regardless of the fact that they like other games in the series better...if you can't beat em, join em.

Heh, that is pretty much what I'm doing with lttp. I honestly don't care one bit about that game, and only voted for it because I like OoT, Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess, and even that one DS game. Were it not for this attempted 4 day in a row kill on Zelda games, I'd probably end up voting for SM64 as well. Honestly, I watched my cousin play ff7 for one summer from beginning to near the end, and liked it more than most other games I've played just from watching. However, I played SM64 for a really long time when I was younger, and it was great too.

Zelda only has my vote because I don't want to watch all of Zelda go down in flames. Mario already has 2 games into the semifinals, and FF7 is gonna be just fine whether I vote for it or not.
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transience | Posted 6/3/2009 11:38:20 AM | message detail
if you really wanted Zelda to not go down in flames, you'd drop LTTP so OOT vs. FF7 has the best chance of going your way.

it's probably only minimal though.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 11:41:20 AM | message detail
SM64 needs about 10 votes per update to tie
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 11:50:12 AM | message detail
"I'll believe in a RBY bandwagon when I see it, and I have some serious doubts. I honestly see a higher chance for a Mario 64 bandwagon if it beats LttP here. That would be more impressive than anything RBY can possibly do on its side of the bracket."

...Man, a Mario 64 bandwagon would be epic. Seeing SM64 place would make these finals the best match ever, even better than Mario/Crono 2 or any of the other epics. Sure, it would be much more likely that it'd be SFF'ed into the single digits by OoT, but I can dream.

But let's get back to the current match. Here's hoping SM64 can get a good lead before the SNV comes. I see LttP doing much better than it would in it.
Lord_Yggdrassil | Posted 6/3/2009 11:51:47 AM | message detail
RBY is ridiculously strong. How on earth did it beat MGS with OoT in the damn poll? jesus.

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charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 11:51:47 AM | message detail
Did we forget what Mario can do with the SNV?

>_>
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Julian_Caesar | Posted 6/3/2009 11:52:04 AM | message detail
hmmmm...is the ASV finally here?

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The Mana Sword | Posted 6/3/2009 11:52:56 AM | message detail
Meh, I'm doubting Mario's gonna be able to move anything significant. Looks like it'll be about even with maybe a slight edge to Mario.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/3/2009 11:53:14 AM | message detail
Three cuts in a row. One more and I start cursing Mario for the rest of the topic.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 11:53:22 AM | message detail
RBY is ridiculously strong. How on earth did it beat MGS with OoT in the damn poll? jesus.

It's a handheld, I know many people that bought GB, GBC and GBA and owned non-Nintendo systems.
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Janus5000 | Posted 6/3/2009 11:53:46 AM | message detail
Return of IT'S FREAKIN' MARIO let's do this
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 6/3/2009 11:54:12 AM | message detail
"Did we forget what Mario can do with the SNV?"

Epic comebacks can't save you if you're the one on top. That said, TWO nailbiters in a row that ended with Mario victories would be just sweet.
KamikazePotato | Posted 6/3/2009 11:54:54 AM | message detail
Woah there Mario

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paulg235 | Posted 6/3/2009 11:55:13 AM | message detail
Why would Mario suddenly become the king of the ASV in one day, though? That's like Link becoming the new Frog during the SNV.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/3/2009 11:55:29 AM | message detail
Epic comebacks can't save you if you're the one on top.

It can prevent the game from winning though
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/3/2009 11:55:34 AM | message detail
yeah, mario has the asv
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