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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/1/2009 7:05:01 PM | message detail
Yeah, I don't think even this situation is enough to bury that trench between SMW/SMB3 and Zelda. We'll get another SMW and SMB3 advancement I think.

Although SMW may get first this time
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 7:09:02 PM | message detail
The gap between Zelda 1 and Mario 3 and World probably isn't that big indirectly. It's just that we've seen that Mario 3 and Mario World can split evenly and both still advance.
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Master Moltar | Posted 6/1/2009 7:18:49 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #250
Two more hours until we lay this "Zelda 1 can advance because 3 Mario games are in the poll" crap to rest.

Two more hours until we lay this "Mario World is destined to win because it's one SNES game against three NES games" crap to rest.


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charmander6000 | Posted 6/1/2009 7:19:56 PM | message detail
Match LVII: Super Mario Bros. vs. The Legend of Zelda vs. Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Super Mario World

Last Round:

Super Mario Bros. – 36.18%
The Legend of Zelda – 34.43%
Tetris – 15.67%
Mega Man 2 – 13.71%

Super Mario Bros. 3 – 32.76%
Super Mario World – 32.14%
Final Fantasy II (IV) – 20.57%
Sonic the Hedgehog – 14.54%

Analysis

Considering the time I’m not really surprised that these four games made it this far, but this is the exact reason why people did not want the bracket to be split by generations. I can only imagine the face of the average voter when he or she sees that there are three Mario options. With this much overlap something weird is bound to happen and the vote totals will probably be terrible.

While it was able to win its division Super Mario Bros. is simply outclassed by the other Mario titles. Even in favourite Mario polls it gets crushed even though it’s probably the fourth strongest title. It is possible that Super Mario Bros. will be crushed so much that it becomes a non-factor, but the game should be able to get over 10% no matter how outclassed it is here.

Super Mario Bros. 3 did well last round relative to the losing games, but it only defeated Super Mario World by about 700 votes. That’s a very small margin to work with and could very easily be reversed through random variation. Despite the closeness I still stand by that Super Mario Bros. 3 is the strongest Mario game and in basically an all Mario poll that will be important.

On the opposite end Super Mario World was able to come really close and while technically the other two opponents are friendlier towards Super Mario World than last round’s opponents I don’t think it will make the difference. Both Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World were released about a year apart and while they are on different consoles the age of the two games is so great that the line is becoming blurred. Super Mario World can still win, but the reason won’t be because Super Mario Bros. 3 had more overlap to work with.

If the oddball factor ever worked this would be the match it would happen in. While also being a Nintendo game The Legend of Zelda is still different than the three Mario games. However watching two Mario games dismantle Final Fantasy IV last round gives me doubts that The Legend of Zelda will be able to compete. Sure The Legend of Zelda is stronger than Final Fantasy IV and another Mario game is being added, but the gap is rather large.

Getting this match correct will put me in a great position at winning the guru contest while the opposite will eliminate me from the contest. While the odds are for the two Mario games advancing I still have faith in The Legend of Zelda taking first. There are only so many Mario fans and people may become angry at the sight of so many Mario games so late in the contest.

charmander6000’s Bracket: The Legend of Zelda > Super Mario Bros. 3

charmander6000’s Prediction: The Legend of Zelda – 30.63%, Super Mario Bros. 3 – 28.53%, Super Mario World – 27.95%, Super Mario Bros. – 12.89%

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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 6/1/2009 7:22:52 PM | message detail
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Regarding Blastoise's icon, I checked what it was and it was the fish icon.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/1/2009 7:34:57 PM | message detail
Yikes, MGS4 is going to fall almost 3% from its overnight high. It's lucky it has RE4 to help it out next round. Can you imagine what Brawl, TP, and KHII would have done to its day percentage?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/1/2009 7:41:14 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 6/1/2009 10:04:17 PM | #250
Two more hours until we lay this "Zelda 1 can advance because 3 Mario games are in the poll" crap to rest.

Two more hours until we lay this "Mario World is destined to win because it's one SNES game against three NES games" crap to rest.


Did I say this?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/1/2009 7:45:30 PM | message detail
SMW needs to overturn less than .5%. It's not like that requires some monumental LFF. We've seen bigger scenes for no reason
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paulg235 | Posted 6/1/2009 7:45:50 PM | message detail
One and a quarter more hours until we lay this "SMB1 will have no chance in advancing due to SFF" crap to rest.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/1/2009 7:47:23 PM | message detail
Ulti, I thought you were big on system-SFF/LFF?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/1/2009 7:48:07 PM | message detail
scenes=swings X_X
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/1/2009 7:50:23 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | Posted: 6/1/2009 10:47:23 PM | #260
Ulti, I thought you were big on system-SFF/LFF?


I am, and what Leon says is true. I just don't recall saying it recently >_>
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 6/1/2009 7:50:51 PM | message detail
Match pic analysis:

I had a nice one written up then Firefox crashed. Off the top of my head:

Best: 1 (by barely anything)
Worst: 4 (but not by much)
Advantage: Zelda
Disadvantage: Frog Mario


Zelda gets an advantage because the green cap stands out among the myriad of red ones.

I also made several comments about Peach's butt in the second pic analysis and how I'd rather date her over Zelda because Zelda would just go on and on about the goddesses and stopping Ganondorf's evil plan.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 7:57:07 PM | message detail
Fanfiction time, part 4 (I'll stop doing these if people think they waste space in these topics).

Crono and Frog flung away their disguises, and drew their swords. Immediately, Mario, or rather L-Block, felt their presence. He turned towards them, and with a wave of his hand directed his army of genetically enhanced pokemon to attack. From thousands of sources, lightning, fire, water, ice, grass, rock, wind, and psychic energy rushed towards Crono and Frog, coalescing into one wave of energy, dark yet very bright, annihilating everything in its path. Crono threw out a circular shield of lightning, but this delayed the pokemons' attack almost no time at all. The wave of energy snuffed out the feeble lightning shield, and slammed into Crono, throwing him thousands of feet up and back, onto the Midgar plate.

Frog looked upon the wave of energy with grim resolve, and pushed forward against it with the Masamune as it reached him. That magic sword, that conductor of power, flashed with greater luminosity than the sun, lighting up the dark battlefield of Midgar, as Frog fought desperately to hold off the pokemons' attack. But after a few seconds, the Masamune broke- even this sword could not endure this kind of stress. The wave broke over Frog, instantly vaporizing the courageous hero. It continued on, reaching the walls of Midgar and there being stopped by the city's magic shielding, having been weakened enough by Frog and the Masamune.

Up on the plate, Crono awoke from unconsciousness. Looking out upon the plain, he saw that Frog was gone, and knew he must have died. He leaped down, landing gently within 100 yards of Mario, having somehow learned how to fly, or at least hover. But Crono did not think of such things now. He looked into Mario's eyes, and knew the truth, that this was not Mario in truth, but L-Block, the great physical embodiment of hatred.

L-Block gave the signal, and again his pokemon began to launch their attack. Crono gathered light in a small sphere in his hands, which grew more and more dense as it rapidly gained luminosity, and became a point of light amidst the darkness of the pokemons' attack, which covered all other light that day- the sun, the city of Midgar, everything. The wave swept on, and as it approached Crono, the sphere of light stopped contracting and began expanding exponentially, still gaining intensity. It struck the darkness and was not stopped. Luminaire's expanstion slowed, but it pushed the darkness back, and gradually began to accelerate again, rolling the energy back at L-Block's army.

L-Block saw this and knew Crono for a powerful user of the Power Within. But though fear gripped his heart, he was happy, for now he would eliminate this threat. He gathered a sphere of pure darkness, much like Crono's sphere of light, and it likewise exploded outward. This dome of darkness clashed with Crono's dome of light, and unlike the pokemons' attack, it stopped its momentum, and then began to push it back. Crono reached deep into himself and pushed his attack forward again with all his will, and L-Block found that he could barely hold him off. The domes of light and darkness had now become much larger than the city of Midgar, and indeed had enveloped it and everything within miles of it on the Midgar Plain.
red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 7:57:21 PM | message detail
In Midgar, everyone who had materia, from Cloud himself to the lowest Shinra employee, was doing his best to try to hold up the shields and keep the dueling domes of energy from entering and destroying Midgar. Even so, the shields barely held, and large sections of the outer wall were torn off or vaporized.

At last Crono could maintain his dome of light no longer. The darkness grew and swallowed it up, and when it reached Crono he flashed brilliantly for a second and then vanished from existence. The darkness spread for miles and miles on the Midgar Plain, slowly losing its intensity and at last fading away. Midgar, still standing, now lay in the middle of a crater 50 miles wide and 1 mile deep. Most of L-Block's army had perished in the storm of the dueling domes of energy, and most of those who were still alive were the ones furthest from the city, who were outside the rim of the crater.

On the 70th floor of the Shinra building, Link was the first to speak.

Link: Now you see what the Power Within can do. Crono had incredible potential, and he died well- for us I mean. Now I will lead the counterattack. I do actually have an army- a very small one compared to L-Block's massive horde, but now that most of them have died, it will do quite nicely. They will attack the remnants of L-Block's army outside the crater, and I will finish L-Block myself.

Cloud: .......

Link: Once you have recovered from your shock at what just happened, you may join me- or not, as you wish. Goodbye, Cloud.

Link opened a portal and appeared in front of L-Block, who in his final attack had dropped his form of Mario to devote all his power to the attack.

Link: Now, I will destroy you, once and for all.

L-Block: Link, you are a coward, only attacking me when you have secured such a great advantage as this. But you overrate yourself. Clearly, Crono was more heroic than you ever were, or will ever be. Do you really think you are stronger in the Power Within than he? Even weakened as I am, Link, I will destroy you! Die die die die die!

Link drew his sword and L-Block began concentrating shadow energy around him.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 7:57:53 PM | message detail
The SMW board vote should be a thing of beauty here
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MetricTrout | Posted 6/1/2009 8:12:08 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/search.php?search=brawl&board=8
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/search.php?search=ssbb&board=8

Damn, not even FF7 causes this much whining.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/1/2009 8:17:12 PM | message detail
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Like so, TRE? I also added a little to the FFX pic to appease the whiny babies

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Meeks54 | Posted 6/1/2009 8:17:47 PM | message detail
Red, you better keep those going. they are undeniably awesome.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 8:18:16 PM | message detail
you put lulus whole face but cut off rikkus

what the hell is wrong with you
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 8:21:49 PM | message detail
Did I say this?

Pretty sure you said it the day of Mario 3/Mario World.

I also added a little to the FFX pic to appease the whiny babies

...Why are Tidus and Lulu in critical health?

*runs*
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 6/1/2009 8:22:18 PM | message detail
KP, a suggestion.

On the melee quarter, take out 2-minute KO fest. Replace it with 24-hour KO fest.
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creativename | Posted 6/1/2009 8:25:46 PM | message detail
I'm confident SMW wins this next one - SMB should hurt SMB3 disproportionately, and there's even another NES game in LoZ. SMW didn't have much gap to overcome to begin with.

For 2nd I'm leaning towards SMB3, although I think LoZ is going to be extremely close and has potential to place.
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zellxselphie93 | Posted 6/1/2009 8:26:23 PM | message detail
hey kamikazepotato

not all the items are filled in that ocarina of time screenshot

you biased or something
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 8:26:28 PM | message detail
I don't see why Mario 1 and Zelda 1 hurt Mario 3 more than World. I don't think console affiliation matters much when the most recent game here is 19 years old.
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hochiminhX | Posted 6/1/2009 8:27:04 PM | message detail
It will either be LoZ > SMW or SMW > LoZ


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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 6/1/2009 8:27:35 PM | message detail
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Like so, TRE? I also added a little to the FFX pic to appease the whiny babies


I believe that Oddish icon is from GSC. It should be this one:
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Pokemon%20Blue.png
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 8:27:54 PM | message detail
SMW should easily beat SMB3 here due to 3 NES games and 1 SNES game. Biggest question is who advances with it. I'm betting on LoZ.
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hochiminhX | Posted 6/1/2009 8:29:38 PM | message detail
The SMW board vote should be a thing of beauty here


You're a thing of beauty


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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 6/1/2009 8:29:40 PM | message detail
All four games will hurt each other slightly.

And yes, this contest lacks any extreme racer, so I say we rally F-Zero GX in for next time. Maybe make it have Nintendo STF to see how its ASV goes down.

All the same, allow the Metroid games to avoid SFF and LFF, please.
XxSoulxX | Posted 6/1/2009 8:29:44 PM | message detail
SMB3 > SMW or SMB3 > SMB

Don't see any other way this match could finish. Zelda > SMB3 has a small chance, but it's really unlikely.
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MetricTrout | Posted 6/1/2009 8:30:14 PM | message detail
I am liking SMW > SMB3 here. Zelda may be stronger than FF2, but it also has more overlap. And what kind of terrible person anti-votes Mario anyway?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 8:30:15 PM | message detail
Also its amazing the balanced day vote FO3 had today.

2:30 PM: 20.26%
11:25 PM: 20.26%
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/1/2009 8:30:16 PM | message detail
...Why are Tidus and Lulu in critical health?

*runs*


Because the person playing FFX at the moment isn't very good, so there!


KP, a suggestion.

On the melee quarter, take out 2-minute KO fest. Replace it with 24-hour KO fest.


I guess I could.


I believe that Oddish icon is from GSC. It should be this one:
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Pokemon%20Blue.png


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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 8:30:36 PM | message detail
I don't think Zelda 1 being a NES game matters. Against this group, it's going to be getting a lot of its support from younger gamers, who presumably do not favor SMB3. Mario 1.....probably it does matter a bit, but not very much. However, remember that last round SMW was the game that was thought to be in danger, which could have helped it rather more than any NES LFF here.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 8:30:50 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #281
SMB3 > SMW or SMB3 > SMB

Don't see any other way this match could finish. Zelda > SMB3 has a small chance, but it's really unlikely.


SMB1 advancing is the only impossibility here
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/1/2009 8:30:58 PM | message detail
The next match will be exciting. Here are a couple of possible situations that could occur here:

1. Super Mario World ends up being a big stand-out in a sea of NES games. As the sole SNES game here, it may take advantage of this to win the match.
2. With 3 Mario games present, The Legend of Zelda takes advantage of Mario game LFF to win the match. But the idea of a Nintendo game (The Legend of Zelda) taking advantage of a fanbase split of 3 other Nintendo games seems pretty farfetched here. Final Fantasy IV could not even take advantage of the SMB3/SMW split to at least place in that match and I'm not able to think The Legend of Zelda could do this either, since SFF may work against it here.
3. In terms of raw strength, Super Mario Bros. 3 is the strongest game here and if it can SFF the other games, it could win.
4. If The Legend of Zelda gets SFFed by Super Mario Bros. 3 or Super Mario World and if Super Mario Bros. 3 is LFFed by Super Mario Bros., we could see a result like Super Mario World > Super Mario Bros. 3.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/1/2009 8:32:05 PM | message detail
I don't think SNES/NES has a large gap between the two. I mean the games are almost 18 years old I think the line is a bit fuzzy now.
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creativename | Posted 6/1/2009 8:32:35 PM | message detail
SMW could have some minor bandwagoning too, and that might help it overcome what should be SMB3's natural power hour advantage a bit.

I'm also thinking SMB1 doesn't get killed as badly as I thought earlier. It'll get the short end of the stick but if SMB3/SMW can split evenly it shouldn't be horrific. Not quite the same as SMB3/SMB1 because they're both NES games so SMB1 will get SFFed for sure, I just don't think it'll be a slaughter anymore.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8486/r4pokemonrby4.png

I like this pic a lot. FFX menu=way better than typical Tidus stuff! We needs more of these kinds of pics I says.

Too bad it's RBY biased! It's nostalgia fest, and we nostalgia in pics can give Pikachu a big boost. Probably holds for his game.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 6/1/2009 8:33:04 PM | message detail
SMB1 advancing is the only impossibility here

We don't know how SMB1 will compare to SMB3/SMW. It could still SFF both, or just SMW.

Possibility is small, but there's still a chance it could happen.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/1/2009 8:33:32 PM | message detail
Psh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekAIelXtIis

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 8:34:30 PM | message detail
I see SMB1 struggling to hit double digits here. Double Mario SFF for it, when I felt it more strong cuz of franchise votes and a sense of "Who cares about the other options", so it should just die here.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 8:34:51 PM | message detail
SMB only got 51% on Zelda 1 last round with no Mario games present. It really has no chance here.
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hochiminhX | Posted 6/1/2009 8:35:15 PM | message detail
Any FFX pics need Auron in them. Tidus is poison and will alienate voters.

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creativename | Posted 6/1/2009 8:35:17 PM | message detail
It will either be LoZ > SMW or SMW > LoZ

I hope so! :) Those are my two favorite games here.

SMB3 is easily my least favorite - great game, played it a ton back when I was a kid, but I remember as a kid thinking it was the most overrated, overhyped game ever. Still great, but not the greatest game ever. I enjoyed SMW a ton more.

My personal affection for the games goes like: SMW>>LoZ>SMB>>SMB3

I'm hoping SMW>LoZ is the order.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 6/1/2009 8:35:39 PM | message detail
It will be worth it just to see if SSBM beats OoT in Asia.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 8:36:24 PM | message detail
I still don't get how weak Nintendo is in Asia. I thought they liked Nintendo there >_>
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 8:36:44 PM | message detail
Order in Asia is probably FFX > RBY > SSBM >= OOT.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 8:37:49 PM | message detail
The Wii and Gamecube both had abysmally low sales in Japan. And, Chrono Trigger has outsold every Zelda game there too (not really embarassing considering CT broke 2 million, but still).
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/1/2009 8:38:41 PM | message detail
Wii = N64, I presume.
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