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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/1/2009 2:45:43 PM | message detail
I would take MGS over TP at this point.


Well Ill be

Venusaur does have a slightly higher Base hp than Toise


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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 2:56:16 PM | message detail
So you think MGS is at the level of Brawl and TP?

Always have.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/1/2009 3:01:36 PM | message detail
I don't want to say anything about MGS, but it beating FF8 that comfortably means it has to be close to #10 on the list. I still think MGS is the strongest Metal Gear by far. MGS4 could have been if Konami didn't have their heads in their ass by releasing it on the Sega Saturn 2.0
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 3:03:15 PM | message detail
I don't have a problem thinking MGS is that high. I think it can beat TP. Not sure it beats Brawl though.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 6/1/2009 3:07:03 PM | message detail
the hell is that supposed to mean
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/1/2009 3:09:03 PM | message detail
RE4 can come close to TP in some situations and is practically even with MGS3. MGS1 beating TP definitely doesn't feel weird. MGS3 > > MGS1 would be like "lol wut" to me
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 3:10:56 PM | message detail
I actually think TP and Brawl are overperforming somewhat this round, for whatever reason. TP going from barely beating RE4 to winning 57-43 says something happened in this round or last- my guess is it's this round. Call it Mature Game LFF, Stand Out Factor, or whatever you like. As for MGS, after seeing it beat FF8 soundly and put up 35% on OOT, I have no problem with it beating Melee or FFX either, though I don't think I'd actually go for the upset there.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 3:17:05 PM | message detail
It's not mature game LFF. Oblivion did much better relative to MGS3 than last round. It's just weirdness with MGS and RE, just like we've seen with FF and MGS in the past (which makes me think FFX has the advantage next round. Yes, you can argue that RBY stands up to OoT, but you just can't deny the possibility that FFVIII's presence cost MGS the win. You may not think that's what happened, but you can't deny the possibility it did. FFX possibly being stronger than MGS to begin with and not having a game that can potentially hinder it there gives it the edge there, I think).
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/1/2009 3:18:59 PM | message detail
I was on the RE4 board a lot and I did see an abnormally high amount of people always praise MGS3 there. Like, I never saw any other game mentioned on that board except MGS3, and quite often. I never knew what the deal was. I never really thought anything of it but maybe there is some weird connection X_X
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/1/2009 3:19:29 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, and Devil May Cry 3. That one too. RE/DMC LFF here we go
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 3:26:02 PM | message detail
FFX has a great chance of advancing, and indeed, RBY probably needs a bandwagon to make it here unless FFX is actually a fair bit weaker than MGS. I've always accepted FF/MGS overlap, and have never needed one of our "standard reasons" to believe in the possibility of LFF. Two games need share nothing other than disproportionate overlap in their fanbases to LFF.

RBY also has a great shot, however. I'd put it at something like 45-45-10 (with 10 being Melee's chances).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 3:27:04 PM | message detail
I think the Brawl fans will vote for Melee en masse in order to set up a Brawl vs. Melee match in the semifinal round. Watch for it!
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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/1/2009 3:29:53 PM | message detail
You may not think that's what happened, but you can't deny the possibility it did.

What is this, Phoenix Wright?
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 6/1/2009 3:29:55 PM | message detail
Well it seems that Brawl is recovering some % but you're right, with this showing it's unlikely that it could challenge OOT and FF7, yet you never know what can happen.

Pokemon RBY seems to be the main wildcarder of this contest. Its shown potential but unless it can pull off a major upset and off FFX then it likely won't make enough noise.

If RBY somehow does pull it off and defeats FFX, could it reach the final match?
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 6/1/2009 3:34:23 PM | message detail
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Pikachu should have the clefairy icon.
Venusaur should have the plant icon.
I can't remember if Blastoise uses the fish icon or not.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 6/1/2009 3:36:16 PM | message detail
I think he does.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 3:37:49 PM | message detail
Brawl is displaying much more balanced trends than is typical for Smash today. Its night vote was bad but not horrid, and its ASV doesn't look like top 2 in the contest. I wonder how many schools are on vacation now?
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KingButz | Posted 6/1/2009 3:37:58 PM | message detail
Ya know KP, that pic seems to favor all but FFX.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 3:38:54 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #217
Brawl is displaying much more balanced trends than is typical for Smash today. Its night vote was bad but not horrid, and its ASV doesn't look like top 2 in the contest. I wonder how many schools are on vacation now?


The majority are as far as I know.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 6/1/2009 3:43:06 PM | message detail
The high school in my region is on its last week so it's still open. By next week we can probably say the vast majority are out
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 3:48:20 PM | message detail
Enough are out to delude the asv to a great degree however
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/1/2009 4:07:11 PM | message detail
If RBY manages to beat FFX and TP and Brawl manage to have enough inherit strength that both advance over RE4 and MGS4, we'd see an epic all-Nintendo semi-final. It's ridiculously unlikely, but having semifinals where 7/8 games are Nintendo would be rich.

As is, they've got 11/16 of the quarterfinals.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/1/2009 5:06:42 PM | message detail
I really dig KP's pic; it's not his fault FFX's menu isn't as cool/recognizable as the other three, and I still think it looks decent enough. It's a neat similarity between the games, too.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 6/1/2009 5:08:02 PM | message detail
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Janus5000 | Posted 6/1/2009 5:10:22 PM | message detail
oh god mario overdose
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Agent M | Posted 6/1/2009 5:18:41 PM | message detail
Just 5 eh, was expecting more...

Was worried I'd get DQed but looks like I made the cut afterall.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 5:19:44 PM | message detail
What is this, Phoenix Wright?

Guilty!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 5:21:32 PM | message detail
Also, how in the world do we get TWO pics of Frog Mario?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/1/2009 5:23:26 PM | message detail
Pikachu should have the clefairy icon.
Venusaur should have the plant icon.
I can't remember if Blastoise uses the fish icon or not.


Knew I probably screwed those up. I'll fix that.


Ya know KP, that pic seems to favor all but FFX.

Not my fault FFX has a boring menu screen. >_>


I did the 2nd pic, with the princesses. Woo!

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Kotetsu534 | Posted 6/1/2009 5:24:41 PM | message detail
You should have the FFX character icons in.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 5:25:21 PM | message detail
I suppose you could use the save screen, though it's not the same thing as a menu pic.
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Lopen | Posted 6/1/2009 5:26:52 PM | message detail
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Awesome

The princess one is cool too. The other three didn't abuse the fact that there were three Mario games enough for my taste.
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KingButz | Posted 6/1/2009 5:28:14 PM | message detail
The FFX menu screen is incredibly bland. I know it's a theme but still...
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/1/2009 5:28:17 PM | message detail
There's barely enough room to make the character names legible. Shoehorning in the character icons isn't going to help that, and I would prefer to leave it as it is in the game regardless.

Save screen...I'll think on it.

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Lopen | Posted 6/1/2009 5:29:35 PM | message detail
You know if you were going to be fair with the menu theme, you'd have Brawl in an options menu, not the character select screen. Yeah, it's boring, but with this theme it's the only not boring one.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/1/2009 5:33:06 PM | message detail
Let's not get carried away. The Melee options menu is far worse than a somewhat boring FFX menu screen.

I said I'd think on the save screen. I'm not going to rush and do it now because I just finished making another pic that I haven't posted yet due to the Mario-fest up there taking everyone's attention, so I'm a little burnt out.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/1/2009 5:56:46 PM | message detail
Well, that Mario-fest didn't last long.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7371/r4pokemonrby5.png

Last Pokemon pic for the round, I promise!

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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/1/2009 5:58:06 PM | message detail
Aw yeah Prince Marth in a pic I approve
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Lopen | Posted 6/1/2009 6:05:04 PM | message detail
The Melee options menu is far worse than a somewhat boring FFX menu screen.

Not really. The FFX menu screen is about the most boring thing ever. I mean, it may be slightly so but uhhh... yeah. Kinda bad theme in general though, sorry to say <_<

I'm just sayin... it's not much more boring than the other three and it's more in theme. It's certainly less lopsided than the pic right now, where Melee is the only one that has a serviceable picture.
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paulg235 | Posted 6/1/2009 6:08:50 PM | message detail
*Blares Frog's theme for SMB3*
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Xuxon | Posted 6/1/2009 6:10:30 PM | message detail
if you don't submit the badass pic bad things will happen
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 3:27:04 PM | message detail
I think the Brawl fans will vote for Melee en masse in order to set up a Brawl vs. Melee match in the semifinal round. Watch for it!


and hopefully, kill both
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 6/1/2009 6:43:57 PM | message detail
lol Metal Gear Solid 4
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 6/1/2009 6:45:09 PM | message detail
Tomorrows match should be interesting.

We got 3 Mario games and one Zelda.

Now Zelda couldn't have asked for a better situation than this. 3 mario games that will be hurting each other so Zelda can advance again.

The main question here is which mario game goes on with Zelda?

SMB1 is not likely as its shown to be the weakest of the 3 mario games here. SMB3 and SMW are the main competitors for 2nd.

Both SMB3 and SMW are special games to many gamers as both were great, so it will be a difficult decision for many voters once this match begins.

For me i'm learning towards SMB3 a little more than SMW although weve that SMW is capable of putting up quite a fight.

What would really shock us would be SMB3 and SMW somehow sharing enough votes to not SFF each and get more votes than Zelda knocking her out, but at this point in the contest that's just plain wishful thinking.

But what would say if that very situation happened?
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 6/1/2009 6:45:56 PM | message detail
Oh, and while I'm at it, lol GotY polls
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 6:46:15 PM | message detail
Frog Mario? With the power of the 2 most clutch things ever, SMB3 isn't going to fail to place!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 7:02:11 PM | message detail
lmao, CoD4 just cut MGS4
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/1/2009 7:03:37 PM | message detail
Two more hours until we lay this "Zelda 1 can advance because 3 Mario games are in the poll" crap to rest.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 7:03:42 PM | message detail
Looks like MGS4 might finish at under 42% on Brawl here. Hmmm...
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 7:04:17 PM | message detail
Two more hours until we lay this "Zelda 1 can advance because 3 Mario games are in the poll" crap to rest.

Two more hours until we lay this "Mario World is destined to win because it's one SNES game against three NES games" crap to rest.
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