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creativename | Posted 5/31/2009 9:29:00 PM | message detail
11.37% / 14.44%

Seriously, *what*?? Casuals had that little faith in Zelda?!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 9:29:10 PM | message detail
I don't even know what's going to happen tomorrow.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/31/2009 9:29:34 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3500&region=GB

Extremely balanced in the UK.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 9:30:19 PM | message detail
Seriously, *what*?? Casuals had that little faith in Zelda?!

Casuals have a lot of faith in Halo and GTA, and probably Half-Life, Gears of War, and God of War, too.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:30:57 PM | message detail
Seriously, *what*?? Casuals had that little faith in Zelda?!

In a division of GTA: SA, Halo 2, WoW and HL2 seems reasonable
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transience | Posted 5/31/2009 9:31:37 PM | message detail
I'm okay with the idea of Brawl being overrated based on weak competition, but it's still looking to be an elite game. maybe it's not top 10 but it's definitely top 20.

you can make that argument about TP as well. I'd argue it's faced weaker competition actually.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:31:41 PM | message detail
MGS4 almost at 44%.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:32:59 PM | message detail
I'm up to a tie for 83rd sitewide now. Perhaps I'll make the leaderboard tomorrow- I wouldn't think so, but I didn't think I'd gain 100 ranks from TP > RE4 either. If not, Zelda 1 winning should do the trick.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 9:33:54 PM | message detail
Twilight Princess has faced RE4, MGS3, Oblivion, Half-Life 2, and Kingdom Hearts II. Brawl has faced MGS4, CoD4, Fallout 3, Galaxy, and GTA IV.

Hmmm...
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 9:34:48 PM | message detail
So, once again

Oblivion vs. Fallout 3. Who you got for strongest Bethesda game?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 9:35:37 PM | message detail
Oblivion impressed the heck out of me yesterday, but that could be TP's relative weakness.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:35:59 PM | message detail
Yeah LoZ > SMB3 will probably get me close too.

I'm tied for 275 and this match will bring me below 200. I'll probably miss the top 50 by a little bit, but I think something as simple as FFVII > LttP will push me into it.
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transience | Posted 5/31/2009 9:36:25 PM | message detail
MGS4 > MGS3
Fallout 3 > Oblivion
COD4 >= Half-Life 2
KH2 > Galaxy

I tried to stick these with like-minded games.

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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:37:43 PM | message detail
COD4 >= Half-Life 2

I find that hard to believe.
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transience | Posted 5/31/2009 9:38:34 PM | message detail
I don't, they're probably not far apart.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 9:40:14 PM | message detail
HL2 would stomp CoD4. That's an easy pick.

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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:41:05 PM | message detail
I know this is GameFAQs, but I think HL2 should have no problems defeating CoD4.
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creativename | Posted 5/31/2009 9:42:18 PM | message detail
Casuals have a lot of faith in Halo and GTA, and probably Half-Life, Gears of War, and God of War, too.

Well obviously. That kind of prediction percentage for a *Zelda* game though is just horrific, pathetic, etc. etc. Especially when said *Zelda* game was the big favorite.

Really. Zelda!!
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transience | Posted 5/31/2009 9:42:21 PM | message detail
I know it bombed, but I have a hard time picking Half-Life over Galaxy so easily.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 9:42:57 PM | message detail
I figured CoD4 > HL2 was a given
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creativename | Posted 5/31/2009 9:43:14 PM | message detail
Have we discussed opinions on whether CoD4's lesser showing here indicates Galaxy LFF after or, or just last place factor/wonkiness?
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:43:17 PM | message detail
Not to mention FFXII over Galaxy.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 9:45:50 PM | message detail
I'm sure we all would've had trouble taking GTAIV>Galaxy, but it happened.

Galaxy is just weak. Put HL2 in CoD4's position and it easily outperforms it.

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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:45:59 PM | message detail
I think it's possible to say with confidence that Galaxy is really that weak.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:46:20 PM | message detail
Ordering the remaining games by how hyped they were before being released:

Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Super Mario Bros. 3
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Zelda: Twilight Princess
Metal Gear Solid 4
Super Mario 64
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Final Fantasy X
Zelda: A Link to the Past
Resident Evil 4
Final Fantasy VII
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
Super Mario World
The Legend of Zelda
Final Fantasy III (VI)
Super Mario Bros.

Does that look right?
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creativename | Posted 5/31/2009 9:46:20 PM | message detail
I agree, Galaxy is rather lowly.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:48:22 PM | message detail
Sunshine has to be much weaker than Galaxy, so.....Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus vs. Super Mario Sunshine, who do you take? Does Cloud get his revenge on SMS?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 9:48:37 PM | message detail
Just because you couldn't see it doesn't mean it wouldn't happen. I didn't see CoD4 > Galaxy either, and it happened.
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transience | Posted 5/31/2009 9:49:14 PM | message detail
that list is a mess. no way is FF7 not top 5, if not #1.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 9:50:04 PM | message detail
FFX more hyped than FFVII? No way.
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transience | Posted 5/31/2009 9:50:05 PM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 9:51:04 PM | message detail
Hah, now I wish Super Mario Sunshine had been in the bracket. Imagine *that* bomb waiting to happen. Switch it out with...uh...MGS2, and then watch it lose handily to Morrowind.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 9:51:20 PM | message detail
$1200 game on cartridge? Nice.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:51:39 PM | message detail
I'll be interesting watching MGS4 stall during the night while Brawl smashes it during the ASV.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/31/2009 9:53:30 PM | message detail
Metal Gear Solid 3 kept about 83% of its votes from last round and about 71.85% of its votes from the round before. Seems like nothing hurt it much in today's match.

Oblivion kept about 92.69% of its votes from last round and about 83.15% of its votes from the round before. 'Been doin' well all contest.

Zelda: Twilight Princess kept about 122.88% of its votes from last round and about 83.4% of its votes from the round before. It's votal this round was higher than last round?! Wow, that's...crazy.

Resident Evil 4 kept about 94.67% of its votes from last round and about 68.58% of its votes from the round before. Nothing to hurt it, really.

1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Zelda: Ocarina of Time
3. Zelda: A Link to the Past
4. Super Mario Bros.
5. Super Smash Bros. Melee
6. Zelda: Twilight Princess
7. The Legend of Zelda
8. Final Fantasy VI
9. Super Mario Bros. 3
10. Super Mario World
11. Final Fantasy X
12. Resident Evil 4
13. Metal Gear Solid 3
14. Super Mario 64
15. Pokemon Red/Blue
16. Chrono Trigger
17. Kingdom Hearts
18. Metal Gear Solid
19. Oblivion
20. Final Fantasy IV
21. Final Fantasy VIII
22. Diablo II
23. Super Metroid
24. GoldenEye
25. Tetris
26. Sonic the Hedgehog
27. Mega Man 2
28. Zelda: Link’s Awakening
HaRRicH | Posted 5/31/2009 9:57:15 PM | message detail
Different kind of list, tranny!


Man, SSBB is doing very well for itself. I think I feel good about SSBB being the strongest game in its next match, and I even like LoZ:TP > MGS4 before accounting for SFF/LFF. I figure a distracted LoZ:TP will compete pretty well with MGS4 and RE4 again...but if RE4/MGS4 is anything like RE4/MGS3, I'll take LoZ:TP and not look back.

I'm trusting MGS4 being a PS3-exclusive with more hype than MGS3 will keep it separate enough from RE4 though, so I'm looking for a three-way race next time. Give me SSBB > LoZ:TP for now, just because of how well Nintendo has done in general this contest.
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Yesmar | Posted 5/31/2009 9:59:24 PM | message detail
SMB3 should be Number 1 on the hype list, no questions asked.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 9:59:59 PM | message detail

From: Yesmar | #137
SMB3 should be Number 1 on the hype list, no questions asked.


halo 3 alone beats out smb3 hype
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creativename | Posted 5/31/2009 10:01:08 PM | message detail
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I like that. I remember the video game store in my mall had a big Cloud standing cardboard thing.

The game that had the FF7 demo sold a lot of copies due to it, I remember hearing back in the day.


Switch it out with...uh...MGS2, and then watch it lose handily to Morrowind.

Hah, that would've been great!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 10:02:14 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRROPF2zGR4
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 10:49:55 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | MGS3 | Oblivion | LOZ: TP | RE4 | Demographic
EBV | 22.86% | 18.32% | 34.26% | 24.56% | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 24.62% | 18.86% | 31.95% | 24.56% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 25.70% | 20.17% | 29.82% | 24.31% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 25.06% | 20.69% | 31.47% | 22.78% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 22.17% | 20.66% | 34.03% | 23.13% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 22.28% | 21.15% | 32.76% | 23.80% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 23.50% | 21.00% | 31.11% | 24.39% | (22:00-24:00)

Twilight Princess had a strong board vote as expected but dropped off into the night. The normal DSV time was when it was at its strongest, but it managed to drop off a bit during the afternoon. RE4 was pretty consistent all night and then it dropped off in the morning before gradually rising back up again the rest of the match. MGS3 had a bad board vote but a great night and early morning vote. The day vote was its undoing. Oblivion did very well for itself outside of that first hour.

Yesterday's stats:

Twilight Princess – 50.00%
Resident Evil 4 – 42.40%
Metal Gear Solid 3 – 42.12%
Oblivion – 38.96%

Division Stats

Twilight Princess – 50.00%
Resident Evil 4 (Round 2) – 48.68%
Kingdom Hearts II (Round 1) – 48.28%
Kingdom Hearts II (Round 2) – 47.99%
Resident Evil 4 (Round 3) – 42.40%
Metal Gear Solid 3 – 42.12%
Half-Life 2 (Round 1) – 39.80%
Half-Life 2 (Round 2) – 39.06%
Oblivion (Round 3) – 38.96%
Final Fantasy XII – 37.68%
Oblivion (Round 2) – 37.06%
Tales of Symphonia (Round 1) – 35.78%
God of War (Round 1) – 35.63%
World of Warcraft (Round 2) – 35.21%
San Andreas – 34.56%
World of Warcraft (Round 1) – 34.08%
Shadow of the Colossus – 34.01%
Tales of Symphonia (Round 2) – 33.29%
God of War (Round 2) – 33.16%
San Andreas (Round 2) – 32.15%
Halo 2 – 32.11%
Okami – 29.29%
Gears of War – 28.12%
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – 22.57%
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 10:56:02 PM | message detail
hey leon you ever finish lufia 2
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ZFS | Posted 5/31/2009 11:01:46 PM | message detail
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FFVII ad campaign the best

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:40:05 PM | message detail
hey leon you ever finish lufia 2

Yeah, like two weeks ago.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 11:52:17 PM | message detail
At the rate FO3 is rising, it may still hit 20%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:52:35 PM | message detail
MGS4 just can't quite cut Brawl.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 11:56:48 PM | message detail
it did that time!
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Janus5000 | Posted 6/1/2009 12:00:13 AM | message detail
comeback let's do this
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 12:42:16 AM | message detail
aww yeah FO3 cutting MGS4 during the night vote
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Janus5000 | Posted 6/1/2009 12:42:27 AM | message detail
Fallout 3 cuts MGS4!

I guess those cuts just made Brawl angry.
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