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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 736

WarThaHedgehog | Posted 6/1/2009 9:21:07 PM | message detail
Man, I don't even care which Mario wins this, both are amazing.

JUST KEEP BEATING DOWN ZELDA!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 9:21:11 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #443
So? I fail to see your point. This isn't last round.


my point is that SMW has a better chance to win then it did at this point last round. Do you deny that?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 9:21:22 PM | message detail
So, if Mario 3 wins anyway, can we forget this NES/SNES LFF stuff?
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/1/2009 9:21:24 PM | message detail
Fight strong, SMB3!

Fight strong.
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hochiminhX | Posted 6/1/2009 9:22:01 PM | message detail
SMB3 had a triple digit lead at this point in time last match

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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 9:22:20 PM | message detail
Again, this isn't last round. You can use the Power Hour all you want, but Mario World has reason to do better in the Power Hour this round compared to last anyway.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/1/2009 9:22:58 PM | message detail
This proves Mario 3 is the strongest Mario game, easily. It's taking Mario World's best effort and leeching from two other NES games to get Mario 3 to lose, and it's still fighting for first place.

By the way, good call from the people thinking Zelda 1 had a chance today. That wasn't a terrible argument at all.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 6/1/2009 9:22:59 PM | message detail
Heh, Mario World's lead on Zelda 1 is exactly the same as Mario 1's lead on Zelda 1 last round.

I'd be surprised if Zelda 1 placed at this point, but it should end up looking pretty good. I don't know what to think between Mario 3 and Mario World, though it would be nice to get full points for one quarterfinal (LttP > FFVII, Ocarina > MGS, TP > RE4 whoops).
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 9:23:05 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #456
Again, this isn't last round. You can use the Power Hour all you want, but Mario World has reason to do better in the Power Hour this round compared to last anyway.


...why? Last round it was thought to be fighting to advance over FF4, so wouldn't that make it do just as well last time?
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/1/2009 9:23:06 PM | message detail
Even if World loses, they have their final rematch next round, and then it'll be a winner-takes-all, no-holds-barred slugfest to determine which Mario game is truly the better of the two.

Watch SM64 beat them both.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/1/2009 9:23:07 PM | message detail
So, if Mario 3 wins anyway, can we forget this NES/SNES LFF stuff?

I was never a supporter of that theory, but I did think that another Super Mario Bros. game in the poll would hurt SMB3 more, even if barely. I'd think YI would hurt SMW more, as well.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/1/2009 9:23:48 PM | message detail
So, if Mario 3 wins anyway, can we forget this NES/SNES LFF stuff?

Even if SMW wins we could do the same; I'd rather chalk this up to random variation
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 9:24:06 PM | message detail
Last round it was thought to be fighting to advance over FF4, so wouldn't that make it do just as well last time?

Not really. Fighting with Mario 3 for Mario supremacy would be more important. You could tell just from the board last round.
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Master Moltar | Posted 6/1/2009 9:24:08 PM | message detail
also with LoZ doing this well, LttP will finally kill the splitting Mario's!

I'll be shocked if I end up calling "The Chain" I figured I'd horribly botch right
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Match 57 - Bracket: SMB3 > SMW - Vote: SMW (279/384)
red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 9:24:19 PM | message detail
If FFVII vs. Mario happens, FFVII is breaking 50%. Book it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 6/1/2009 9:25:14 PM | message detail
SM64 to pull off the upset

FF7/SM64/SMW/SMB3 let's do this

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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/1/2009 9:25:17 PM | message detail
And World beating SMB3 only makes the rivalry that much more awesome. It's the Mario/Crono of this contest, except Crono isn't washed-up and it's one of those life-long debates that fanboys have argued since the dawn of time. There's always been this epic debate between whether SMB3 or SMW is the best Mario game of all time, and it's awesome to see this rivalry flourish on GameFAQs.

Maybe it's a fanboy thing, but I'm really enjoying this.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/1/2009 9:25:46 PM | message detail
SMB is just dying now.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/1/2009 9:26:00 PM | message detail
After seeing SMB3/SMW last round and SMW leading SMB3 so far in the early-going of this match, please, BT, I encourage your to elaborate.

SMW needs SMB1 and to a lesser extent Zelda to hold SMB3 back to squeak out the win, and that's assuming it actually wins. We've seen stranger things happen, I don't see why vote trends can't be ever so slightly off and still result in a similar result.
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Master Moltar | Posted 6/1/2009 9:26:05 PM | message detail
64 in the finals i can live with this
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Match 57 - Bracket: SMB3 > SMW - Vote: SMW (279/384)
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 9:26:08 PM | message detail
At this update last round, SMB3 was up by 154
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 6/1/2009 9:26:09 PM | message detail
Oh man SMB3 isn't letting SMW pull away here, its keeping it close.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 9:26:11 PM | message detail
SM64 to pull off the upset

FF7/SM64/SMW/SMB3 let's do this


I'd probably bet on Mario 64 there. That is this generation's Super Mario Bros.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 6/1/2009 9:26:16 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #465
If FFVII vs. Mario happens, FFVII is breaking 50%. Book it.


Absolutely. Hell, I'd want it to break 90%.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 9:26:23 PM | message detail
Yeah, I gave it 12.5% and still overshot it, it seems.
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HaRRicH | Posted 6/1/2009 9:27:00 PM | message detail
I'll agree with Leon that I don't entirely trust SMW right now due to the Power Hour and this being an all-Nintendo match, but it does look like quite a difference between them thus far twenty minutes into the match. We saw twenty minutes into Sunday's match that RE4 wasn't hanging tight with LoZ:TP again, though that's an exaggerated case...but this isn't a trend SMB3 wants to follow anyway.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 9:27:08 PM | message detail
I guess the theory about SMB1 only being strong cuz of "Who cares about the other competitors" was spot on
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/1/2009 9:27:10 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted: 6/2/2009 12:26:00 AM | #469
After seeing SMB3/SMW last round and SMW leading SMB3 so far in the early-going of this match, please, BT, I encourage your to elaborate.

SMW needs SMB1 and to a lesser extent Zelda to hold SMB3 back to squeak out the win, and that's assuming it actually wins. We've seen stranger things happen, I don't see why vote trends can't be ever so slightly off and still result in a similar result.


Turtle is right on the money here. Today's match pretty solidly proves Mario 3 is the strongest Mario game indirectly, but sadly we'll never get another 1v1 contest to prove it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 9:28:01 PM | message detail
I guess the theory about SMB1 only being strong cuz of "Who cares about the other competitors" was spot on

More like Mario 1 being strong as long as other Mario games aren't there.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/1/2009 9:28:05 PM | message detail
It would be nice to see the three big Mario games duke it out once and for all to see which of the three is truly the strongest and best.

It'd also be the only time we'd see Mario beat Cloud again!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 9:28:07 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3495&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

SMW should be able to build a good lead overnight.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/1/2009 9:28:14 PM | message detail
I hope Mario 64 beats LttP, just so we have SMB3/SMW in as fair a match as possible with 4 ways. Hell, we might even get a nice 3-way race going if SM64 manages to show up.
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 9:28:20 PM | message detail
Today's match doesn't even prove SMB3 > SMW unless it wins here, and it certainly doesn't prove either game is stronger than Mario 64.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 6/1/2009 9:29:24 PM | message detail
If it's FF7 and the 3 Mario's, I wouldn't be surprised to see 7 break 50%
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 9:29:25 PM | message detail
I hope Mario 64 does advance, just so we can see who is truly the strongest mario.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 9:30:18 PM | message detail
Aw yeah, superior game on top
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 9:30:33 PM | message detail
epic 1 vote lead
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red sox 777 | Posted 6/1/2009 9:30:35 PM | message detail
It wouldn't really be a fair fight. The NES/SNES gap may not mean very much, but the SNES/N64 and 2D/3D gap should.
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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 6/1/2009 9:30:36 PM | message detail
Alright, let's do this.
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charmander6000 | Posted 6/1/2009 9:30:39 PM | message detail
SMB3 with the lead, all is well.
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paulg235 | Posted 6/1/2009 9:30:43 PM | message detail
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/1/2009 9:31:12 PM | message detail
It's the three Marios. Everybody's played at least one of these. We're talking about three different Nintendo consoles here. I don't see FF7 breaking 50% unless Sony announces a remake at E3.

If a remake is announced, well, I'd hate to be FF7's competition...
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 6/1/2009 9:31:29 PM | message detail
And SMB3 comes back and takes a 1 vote lead!

He's determined not to lose to SMW!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 6/1/2009 9:31:43 PM | message detail
i predict a smw spike here :3
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 9:31:54 PM | message detail
Yeah, Mario games get too much respect for FFVII to score 50%+, I think. Remember SMB led FF for an hour in the Series Contest.
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 6/1/2009 9:32:00 PM | message detail
Also, **** yeah SMB3.

Best Mario game ever, nay, best game ever period.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/1/2009 9:32:51 PM | message detail
Mario 3 is a better game than Mario World.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 6/1/2009 9:33:03 PM | message detail
Yes, it is.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 6/1/2009 9:33:14 PM | message detail
Play EarthBound
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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 6/1/2009 9:33:15 PM | message detail
Play Ogre Battle 64.
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