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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 735
Yesmar | Posted 5/31/2009 1:33:14 PM | message detail |
I
would expect MGS to have a bad SNV actually due to Europe feeding its
strength during the FNV. When compared to RE4 at least. How well have
RE4 done in Europe this contest? --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
Yesmar | Posted 5/31/2009 1:33:57 PM | message detail |
*has --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/31/2009 1:34:56 PM | message detail |
Apparently RE4 does about the same in Europe as the overall World unlike MGS3. --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 1:35:15 PM | message detail |
Um... why are we talking about the second night vote at 4:30 PM? SNV trends start showing up early on weekends. Epic stall by MGS3 --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 243/352 |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/31/2009 1:35:55 PM | message detail |
What
kind of split would SSBB/LoZ:TP need to allow MGS4 to advance despite
MGS3 anyway? You can't count on SSBB destroying LoZ:TP like it did to
SMG. The two best matches for reference are probably RBY/LoZ:MM and
SSBM/LoZ:WW, both of which were 65-35'ish...and LoZ:TP handily beats
either LoZ game, though how SSBB compares to SSBM or RBY is more
questionable (RBY > SSBB > SSBM?). Either way, LoZ:TP's a
super-hyped multi-platform launch game from the site's biggest series
that did well enough in the GotC-poll despite lots of Nintendo options,
so I doubt SSBB does a ton of damage to it. If LoZ:TP/SSBB go 60-40, what needs to happen with MGS3/4 for one of them to advance? If LoZ:TP/SSBB go 50-50, what needs to happen with MGS3/4 for one of them to advance? --- BT > Harrich lol me |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 5/31/2009 1:37:16 PM | message detail |
MGS3 is only a little better in Europe as well. The first round number is inflated with Halo 2 there sucking. --- FastFalcon and Solid Snake snapped my neck in the guru contest. |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/31/2009 1:37:47 PM | message detail |
1 of them needs to completely leech off 1 another. Though its very doubtful TP and Brawl go 50-50 or even 60-40. I just dont see that happening. --- Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 1:38:27 PM | message detail |
For MGS4 to advance next round it needs either a heavy SFFd TP or to SFF MGS3 really hard. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 243/352 |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/31/2009 1:40:27 PM | message detail |
From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #207 You're expecting worse than 60/40? --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 1:40:42 PM | message detail |
What kind of split would SSBB/LoZ:TP need to allow MGS4 to advance despite MGS3 anyway? Either SSBB will have to SFF TP into nothingness or MGS4 has to do the same to MGS3. Neither are likely. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
transience | Posted 5/31/2009 1:43:31 PM | message detail |
Brawl/TP/RBY/Melee is a possible match thanks to this. .....yeesh. --- xyzzy |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 1:43:58 PM | message detail |
Okay,
I was wrong about RE4 winning by 1000. RE4 still looks pretty good here
though, barring an MGS3 rally at the end. It held its ground against KH
as we pushed into the afternoon and evening, and KH is even better
there than earlier on in the day. MGS is also better in the
afternoon/evening than the morning, but probably not by enough to stop
RE4 from making its (slow) gains. People giving next round to Brawl > TP are overreacting. Remember that RE4 got very close to TP last round, and Brawl/TP LFF is going to be heavy. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 1:44:14 PM | message detail |
...Not sure how that's a possible match unless you think they both eliminate OoT next round. OoT/Melee/TP/Brawl is a possible match though. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
transience | Posted 5/31/2009 1:44:23 PM | message detail |
wait, I have my divisions mixed up. we could get OOT/RBY/Brawl/TP instead! yay! --- xyzzy |
PiGuy96 | Posted 5/31/2009 1:44:53 PM | message detail |
I think you're missing an Ocarina! Ocarina/Melee/Brawl/TP would be a weird match. --- RPGuy netbook remix |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/31/2009 1:45:17 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #209 Short answer Yes. --- Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 1:45:30 PM | message detail |
Remember that RE4 got very close to TP last round, and Brawl/TP LFF is going to be heavy. Heavier than MGS4/MGS3 LFF? --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 1:45:54 PM | message detail |
From: transience | #214 oot > rby ftw --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 1:46:05 PM | message detail |
Oh no, that assumes RE4 wins here. If MGS3 holds on, Brawl > TP it is. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/31/2009 1:46:11 PM | message detail |
also good showing by Oblivion. --- Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 1:46:13 PM | message detail |
I'd like to see Brawl vs. Melee, though I don't want it at FFX's expense, so...Maybe next time! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
transience | Posted 5/31/2009 1:46:19 PM | message detail |
to be fair, that match is more interesting than FFX being there - FFX advances with easy if it can beat SFF'd Melee and RBY. that FFX/RBY match is massive. it determines everything on the bottom half. --- xyzzy |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 1:46:51 PM | message detail |
Oh no, that assumes RE4 wins here. If MGS3 holds on, Brawl > TP it is. Well, everyone's talking about Brawl > TP assuming MGS3 advances. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 1:47:24 PM | message detail |
well re4 is gonna advance here it seems. Can't see any way MGS3 holds on at this point --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 1:47:45 PM | message detail |
...Where's Slow when you need him to call a match? --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/31/2009 1:48:37 PM | message detail |
Ill call the match Leon Kennedy gets his neck broken. --- Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire. |
Yesmar | Posted 5/31/2009 2:01:20 PM | message detail |
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/31/2009 2:01:26 PM | message detail |
Okay, I've finished every chart for the 2007 contest, and as a tribute, L-Block's last two matches! Time | The Chief | Dante | L-Block | Snake | Demographic EBV | 15.10% | 8.16% | 56.89% | 19.85% | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 19.10% | 11.18% | 46.23% | 23.50% | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 20.36% | 15.46% | 36.21% | 27.97% | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 19.94% | 17.13% | 33.05% | 29.88% | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 26.03% | 15.17% | 32.67% | 26.13% | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 26.31% | 15.34% | 33.06% | 25.29% | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 26.78% | 16.24% | 32.01% | 24.97% | (22:00-24:00) Time | Link | Cloud | L-Block | Snake | Demographic EBV | 21.36% | 15.41% | 54.99% | 8.23% | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 24.93% | 19.07% | 45.40% | 10.60% | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 27.12% | 23.85% | 36.38% | 12.65% | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 31.29% | 26.48% | 28.40% | 13.83% | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 31.60% | 24.46% | 31.91% | 12.03% | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 30.67% | 25.48% | 31.57% | 12.28% | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 29.21% | 26.23% | 31.93% | 12.63% | (22:00-24:00) Aww yeah, L-Block. Do a chart for the bonus match, please. And once you get the time to, put up all of the trend charts on the Wiki (on a separate page for the 2007 trends). --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 2:03:00 PM | message detail |
By trends, I like RE4 to win this. By outside factors...hard to bet against MGS in a close match. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
Yesmar | Posted 5/31/2009 2:03:00 PM | message detail |
I have a chart I made for the Bonus Match at the time: Time | L-Block | Paddle | Weighted Companion Cube | ? Block 01:00 | 35.93% | 07.97% | 24.56% | 31.55% 02:00 | 32.56% | 07.97% | 22.47% | 37.00% 03:00 | 31.59% | 07.31% | 23.23% | 37.87% 04:00 | 31.80% | 08.27% | 20.46% | 39.47% 05:00 | 33.09% | 08.56% | 20.37% | 37.99% 06:00 | 31.86% | 08.59% | 18.74% | 40.82% 07:00 | 32.46% | 08.49% | 17.89% | 41.16% 08:00 | 31.72% | 09.06% | 18.23% | 40.99% 09:00 | 30.30% | 08.33% | 18.31% | 43.06% 10:00 | 31.40% | 08.16% | 17.38% | 43.07% 11:00 | 29.05% | 08.26% | 19.29% | 43.41% 12:00 | 28.85% | 08.68% | 20.85% | 41.62% 13:00 | 28.41% | 08.97% | 18.88% | 43.74% 14:00 | 27.68% | 08.99% | 19.74% | 43.59% 15:00 | 27.71% | 09.25% | 18.14% | 44.90% 16:00 | 27.25% | 09.89% | 17.70% | 45.16% 17:00 | 26.99% | 10.57% | 18.29% | 44.16% 18:00 | 27.72% | 09.65% | 18.07% | 44.56% 19:00 | 27.46% | 09.81% | 17.30% | 45.44% 20:00 | 28.17% | 10.07% | 17.59% | 44.17% 21:00 | 28.29% | 10.13% | 17.09% | 44.49% 22:00 | 26.54% | 09.68% | 19.28% | 44.51% 23:00 | 27.53% | 09.52% | 18.71% | 44.24% 00:00 | 27.01% | 10.50% | 18.60% | 43.89% --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/31/2009 2:03:24 PM | message detail |
17:00 | Metal Gear Solid 3 | 23202| +0302 | 50.16% | Resident Evil 4 | 23052| +0315| 49.84% | Lead of 150| (Down 013) You know, when doing 15 minute update charts, I would simply omit the "0" from the "+0" part. It's quite unnecessary. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
paulg235 | Posted 5/31/2009 2:03:30 PM | message detail |
MGS3 should be able to hang on for our annual Snake shenanigans. --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 2:04:10 PM | message detail |
? Block is a day beast --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
MegatokyoEd | Posted 5/31/2009 2:05:19 PM | message detail |
I can only imagine the outrage if RE4 takes the lead, holds on until the final update and then MGS3 wins. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
consolefreak | Posted 5/31/2009 2:05:33 PM | message detail |
Either SSBB will have to SFF TP into nothingness or MGS4 has to do the same to MGS3. Neither are likely. Or a moderate combination of both, which is pretty likely. SSBB > TP's the favourite, but MGS4 has some great odds there. And RBY is not placing next round. FFX >>> MGS, and instead of FFVIII weighing MGS down there's Melee weighing (admittedly, not that much apparently) RBY down. --- Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 2:06:12 PM | message detail |
And
RBY is not placing next round. FFX >>> MGS, and instead of
FFVIII weighing MGS down there's Melee weighing (admittedly, not that
much apparently) RBY down. bandwagon --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 2:08:05 PM | message detail |
What bandwagon? I haven't seen it. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 2:08:18 PM | message detail |
MGS got 54% against FF8 last round. FFX does not >>> FF8. I'd be surprised if it was anything more than >=. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 2:08:49 PM | message detail |
To clarify, I'd be surprised if FFX was any more than >= in comparisan to MGS. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 2:09:22 PM | message detail |
I'd be surprised if it was anything more than >=. You really think FFX/FFVIII is a toss-up? I'd be surprised if FFVIII was in contention to win such a match. Not to say it gets blown out, but it could easily 55/45 FFVIII. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 2:10:01 PM | message detail |
Make
that FFX > MGS or FFX = MGS and you'd be more right. Or to put it
another way, do you take KH to beat MGS? How about KH2? RE4? MGS3? --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 2:10:09 PM | message detail |
To clarify, I'd be surprised if FFX was any more than >= in comparisan to MGS. So you think MGS/SSBM would be a close match? Hmmm...I don't see it. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/31/2009 2:11:16 PM | message detail |
MGS
strength should be enough to get the job done, though. If you replace
the only poll option that was hindering MGS with another poll option
that should hinder Pokemon more, I think MGS wins. It only needed to
swing 2200. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 2:11:22 PM | message detail |
Considering I'd take RBY/Melee to be a close match...yes. It does feel weird, but MGS hasn't given me reason to doubt it being that strong. 36% on OoT is no joke. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 2:12:41 PM | message detail |
MGS2
did put up 44% on SSBM, so MGS having a close match with it shouldn't
be out of the question. The SSBM we saw in 2004 and that we are dealing
with now is not the uber-hyped monster that we saw glimpses of from
2006 to Brawl's release. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
consolefreak | Posted 5/31/2009 2:13:00 PM | message detail |
There
hasn't been a real indication of a bandwagon yet. But yeah, in that
case it could place. Hold the match the first day of the contest, FFX
wins without a doubt. MGS got 54% against FF8 last round. FFX does not >>> FF8. I'd be surprised if it was anything more than >=. It's funny because FFX was always thought to be >>>> FFVIII before this contest. Just because FFVIII looked impressive in its first round, people strayed from that thought. Now FFVIII turned out to be not that popular after all, and yet FFX only >= FFVIII? Also, remove MGS from that match and add Melee, and FFVIII takes it second easily. --- Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 2:16:17 PM | message detail |
FFX
doesn't look that much stronger than MGS because it didn't beat KH very
badly. We'll average the 2 rounds and call it about 54-46. KH2 narrowly
lost to RE4, which is going even with MGS3 today. Unless you believe
MGS3 is close to 1 or stronger than it, you can't really call FFX to be
much stronger than MGS. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
consolefreak | Posted 5/31/2009 2:19:10 PM | message detail |
FFX
doesn't look that much stronger than MGS because it didn't beat KH very
badly. We'll average the 2 rounds and call it about 54-46. KH2 narrowly
lost to RE4, which is going even with MGS3 today. Unless you believe
MGS3 is close to 1 or stronger than it, you can't really call FFX to be
much stronger than MGS. I can't really say that I think this match is fair game though. Resident Evil's fanbase is all over the place. I'd give RE4 about 54% on MGS3 1-1. Anyway, FFX >> MGS is just common sense IMO. Right until proven otherwise. --- Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino |
consolefreak | Posted 5/31/2009 2:21:25 PM | message detail |
And
the fundamental problem in your argument is that I'd much rather assume
that FFX >> MGS than assume anything about the strengths of KH
and KH2. --- Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 2:21:59 PM | message detail |
Sounds
like a baseless assumption based on personal expectations to me! I'd
probably still take FFX over MGS, but wouldn't be confident in it at
all. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |