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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:25:17 AM | message detail
The Fury is only in there for Kojima to tell us how much he disliked the space race.

At least he managed to do it in a very awesome way!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/31/2009 11:26:05 AM | message detail
Hey guys.

Oblivion's got this.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:26:06 AM | message detail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:26:51 AM | message detail
I went up into space...AND WHAT DO YOU THINK I SAW THERE?!

FURY!!!!!!!!!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:29:05 AM | message detail
Me: Please don't say fury, please don't say fury....

The Fury: T3H FURYYYYYYYY!1!11@!21@12!

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:30:56 AM | message detail
I agree with yo on the fun fights, though. The End by far being the best. I do however like the whole of 4's fights much much better, even Raging Raven. She really grew on me the second time.
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Yesmar | Posted 5/31/2009 11:31:34 AM | message detail
Ok. This is starting to look sketchy.

MGS3 keeps getting random boosts every quarter hour.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:32:23 AM | message detail

From: Yesmar | Posted: 5/31/2009 2:31:34 PM | #107
Ok. This is starting to look sketchy.

MGS3 keeps getting random boosts every quarter hour.


Metal Gear Solid blatantly cheats in every match it's ever been in. This is nothing new.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/31/2009 11:32:56 AM | message detail
Oh here we go again.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/31/2009 11:34:38 AM | message detail
And if you looked at the updates instead of crying about cheating you'd see it's RE4 dropping off most of the time, not MGS3 boosting.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:35:33 AM | message detail
I should make a list of sketchy matches and just copy-paste it every time someone wants to defend how blatant it really is.
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transience | Posted 5/31/2009 11:35:54 AM | message detail
can't have a close match without somebody screaming about cheating.

we complain when the updates are predictable, and then when they're unpredictable we complain about that too!
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Lopen | Posted 5/31/2009 11:36:28 AM | message detail
KEFKA HAS REMAINED CONSTANT VERCETTI JUST KEEPS DROPPING RANDOMLY
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:37:18 AM | message detail
I do however like the whole of 4's fights much much better, even Raging Raven. She really grew on me the second time.

Destroying her in one shot with the Rail Gun will do that for you.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/31/2009 11:37:45 AM | message detail
Man, whatever!
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/31/2009 11:38:12 AM | message detail
I'm glad Bethesda games are doing well enough in this contest. Oblivion and Fallout 3 are two of my favorite games this generation and between the two I've must have sunk a couple hundred hours (over 30 alone on my current FO3 playthrough, which I'm around halfway done with), so it's nice to see them hanging well enough with the big names on jRPG-biased GameFAQs of all places.
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Lopen | Posted 5/31/2009 11:38:27 AM | message detail
I do however like the whole of 4's fights much much better, even Raging Raven

Nah I'm calling HM syndrome on you right now. Go wait a few months.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:38:38 AM | message detail
I'd like to see MGS vs. CT in a close match in the last hour and see what happens.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 5/31/2009 11:41:22 AM | message detail
I'd like to see MGS vs. CT in a close match in the last hour and see what happens.

Liquid/Frog.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:49:24 AM | message detail
Frog was already winning by like 400 then, wasn't he? I'm talking like within 100 going into the last hour.

And since Ulti brought up wanting to compare Sora's and Sonic's day votes:

Time | Squall | Sora | Sonic | Sub-Zero | Demographic
EBV | 30.09% | 17.77% | 36.57% | 15.56% | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 29.93% | 19.56% | 33.41% | 17.11% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 32.65% | 18.18% | 32.50% | 16.68% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 32.90% | 18.60% | 34.33% | 14.18% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 29.62% | 20.67% | 33.44% | 16.27% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 30.44% | 20.87% | 30.95% | 17.74% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 31.51% | 20.13% | 29.25% | 19.11% | (22:00-24:00)

This was a weekend match, but when you can barely beat Squall with your day vote, chances are you don't have a very good one.

Oh, and one more look at GAME FUEL Master Chief:

Time | Ganondorf | Luigi | The Chief | Yuna | Demographic
EBV | 28.19% | 25.92% | 30.03% | 15.87% | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 25.42% | 24.84% | 31.48% | 18.26% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 23.33% | 23.88% | 31.09% | 21.71% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 23.42% | 25.35% | 30.32% | 20.92% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 23.24% | 23.49% | 33.39% | 19.88% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 20.87% | 22.60% | 40.44% | 16.09% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 20.92% | 22.46% | 39.15% | 17.48% | (22:00-24:00)

Whee!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:50:33 AM | message detail
And darn it, MGS3! You're supposed to be improving now!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:51:01 AM | message detail
Snake vs Crono 2002 - Needs no explanation if you were there. Ironically, these are the two biggest cheaters in contest history.

Metal Gear Solid vs Final Fantasy Tactics 2004 - Dead even for hours and hours, then MGS gets a giant spike right near the end.

Liquid Snake vs Frog 2004 - Only lost because CT cheats more than MGS does.

Solid Snake vs Frog 2004 - I'd like to call this legitimate, but everyone on this board saw the scripts getting passed around on both sides all day long.

Solid Snake vs Bowser 2005 - Hideously obvious.

Solid Snake vs Sephiroth vs Cloud vs Link 2006 - Another match where something MGS-related spikes at the tail end. I will never consider this a legitimate win, ever.

Solid Snake vs Cloud vs Sephiroth vs Kirby 2008 - Snake "stalled" Cloud's ASV in this match the same way Crono stalled Vincent's. Massive vote-stuffing. Neither match is even up for debate in this regard. You can barely even blame Sephiroth, because Cloud destroyed Snake in the ASV one day after this, to the point where Sephiroth's presence the day before was irrelevant.

MGS3 vs Oblivion vs Twilight Princess vs RE4 - Win lose or draw, I can safely add this to the list of obvious vote-stuffed MGS matches.




One is an accident, two is a trend, three or more is a program. Metal Gear Solid (and Chrono Trigger) cheat. A lot. and you can't really call me biased, because I love the hell out of the series :D
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paulg235 | Posted 5/31/2009 11:51:12 AM | message detail
Looks like this might be our only close, unexpected and interesting match, boys.

If RE4 doesn't build a lead of over 500 with 3 hours left, it's done.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 11:51:12 AM | message detail
MGS3 is a blast, but it's still easily the worst game in the series. Worst storyline, worst characters, worst gameplay up until Gronzy Grad.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/31/2009 11:51:56 AM | message detail
Good job.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 11:52:06 AM | message detail
Wait, it's in doubt whether or not MGS cheats? I thought this was common knowledge by now.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:52:33 AM | message detail
I don't know what you're talking about. The mountain area before Groznyj Grad is one of the most fun areas in the series. I could spend forever there just goofing around.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:52:34 AM | message detail
Frog vs Liquid was close all day, and I'm positive it was within 100 before the end.
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Lopen | Posted 5/31/2009 11:53:07 AM | message detail
Aw yeah near 30 vote cut.

SHOOT HIM IN THE HEAD! SHOOT HIM IN THE HEAD!
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:53:14 AM | message detail
Okay fine, the gameplay sucks up until The End. I think we can all agree on that.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 11:53:22 AM | message detail
I'll grant you the mountain area being awesome. All of the jungle areas...eh.

MGS3 is just too inconsistent.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:53:38 AM | message detail
Solid Snake vs Bowser 2005 - Hideously obvious.

I didn't realize 1200 vote wins was an example of hideously obvious cheating.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 11:54:14 AM | message detail
Solid Snake vs Frog 2004 - I'd like to call this legitimate, but everyone on this board saw the scripts getting passed around on both sides all day long.

Because losing the last three hours means you're stuffing

Solid Snake vs Bowser 2005 - Hideously obvious.

Not obvious for me...
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/31/2009 11:54:20 AM | message detail
Frog had 150 vote lead going into the last 2 hours. Same for the last hour too, didn't move >_>
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:54:29 AM | message detail
***** THIS AIN'T A CUTSCENE, PRESS A.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:54:40 AM | message detail
Oh, don't forget Liquid/Alucard for obvious cheating at the end.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 11:54:53 AM | message detail
THE PRESIDENT'S DAUGHTER BEEN KIDNAPPED

IT'S UP TO US

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:55:33 AM | message detail
Plus, I didn't think anyone (other than ExTha) cared that Snake basically cheating to beat Sephiroth. Too awesome to care!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 11:55:46 AM | message detail
What in the world is up with my grammar today? Sheesh.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:56:07 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 5/31/2009 2:53:38 PM | #132
Solid Snake vs Bowser 2005 - Hideously obvious.

I didn't realize 1200 vote wins was an example of hideously obvious cheating.


It was on pace to be much closer if not Bowser winning, then Bowser "inexplicably" collapse.

Can't some people just accept that a couple of fanbases cheat? It's undeniable fact that MGS and Chrono Trigger cheat.

OH NO WATE THAT LAST HOUR AGAINST VINCENT AND THE ASV STALL WAS ALL RALLYING GUYS!112/!2/!/
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transience | Posted 5/31/2009 11:57:38 AM | message detail
I wanted Bowser to win that, but he really had no shot. that wasn't cheating, it was an obvious win for Snake.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:58:03 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 5/31/2009 2:55:33 PM | #138
Plus, I didn't think anyone (other than ExTha) cared that Snake basically cheating to beat Sephiroth. Too awesome to care!


I cared quite a lot, mainly because Bacon allows it. But hey, at least we'll get news whenever 4chan announces a Battletoads rally. That's always good to know.

The good news here is that only one reliable cheating method remains possible in these polls, but it's more or less impossible to control. And no I'm not saying what it is, but I'm sure you can figure it out.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/31/2009 11:58:25 AM | message detail
No one's denying that some people cheat.

But to assume it happens in every single match is dumb.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:59:17 AM | message detail
I didn't use the Rail Gun (I actually redid the fight after the Rail Gun, since you don't get the doll for lethally killing a beast form). I had a total blast running up and down the stairs and blasting her with the Mosin Nagant.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 11:59:56 AM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | Posted: 5/31/2009 2:58:25 PM | #143
No one's denying that some people cheat.

But to assume it happens in every single match is dumb.


Okay fine, "only" eight or so matches I can guarantee. How stupidly naive of me.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/31/2009 12:00:02 PM | message detail
I'm kind of glad RE4 is getting shown up by MGS3 here. I knew RE4 was getting overrated to hell and back.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/31/2009 12:00:36 PM | message detail
At least you admit you're stupid!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/31/2009 12:00:43 PM | message detail
I just admitted Snake cheated to beat Sephiroth and Liquid cheated to beat Alucard. I don't believe Snake cheated to beat Bowser. Bowser's day vote sucks for a Nintendo character. That wasn't Snake cheating.

I cared quite a lot, mainly because Bacon allows it.

Snake > Sephiroth was under Ceej's watch.
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paulg235 | Posted 5/31/2009 12:01:43 PM | message detail
I'm looking foward to MGS3's advancing prediction. How many brackets do you think it has advancing? 11%?
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 5/31/2009 12:04:15 PM | message detail
Liquid cheated to beat Alucard

Liquid had a last minute rally topic on LL. I should know - I made it.
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