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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 735

UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/30/2009 9:59:35 PM | message detail
Of all the games that could have knocked RE4 out, MGS3 was the one I least expected.

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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/30/2009 10:00:09 PM | message detail
And it'd be the best one!
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That silly Japan.

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Advanced_Koko8 | Posted 5/30/2009 11:13:19 PM | message detail
Well, MGS3 was not really impressive or good during it's last match, so it is indeed unexpected..
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paulg235 | Posted 5/30/2009 11:17:42 PM | message detail
MGS3 was less expected than Phoenix Wright?
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voltch | Posted 5/30/2009 11:28:30 PM | message detail
how come OOT=total uber fodder in japan?
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vash_131 | Posted 5/30/2009 11:30:52 PM | message detail
how come OOT=total uber fodder in japan?

Japan =/= Asia
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/30/2009 11:48:50 PM | message detail
Sweet, #8 on the leaderboard and #3 on Guru.

Still surprised that all of a sudden I'm actually doing well after I expected to completely suck at this contest.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 6:05:45 AM | message detail
You better hope that RE4 does better later on though, since MGS3 won that last hour by 10 votes still ;)
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Sakurafanboy | Posted 5/31/2009 6:08:36 AM | message detail
Go TP <3
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:14:16 AM | message detail
Until TP starts sharing RE4 is going to do nothing.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:14:54 AM | message detail
What a thrill.
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transience | Posted 5/31/2009 6:15:27 AM | message detail
we aren't going anywhere here. Alucard/Liquid v2
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 6:17:08 AM | message detail
Yeah, this is just gonna be a day long stall with TP massacering both of them
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:19:59 AM | message detail
how come OOT=total uber fodder in japan?

Did you know that Chrono Trigger outsold every Zelda game in Japan?

MGS3 by the hour:

1:00 | 50.06
2:00 | 51.25
3:00 | 50.87
4:00 | 49.50
5:00 | 52.58
6:00 | 53.67
7:00 | 52.86
8:00 | 54.50
9:00 | 50.24

MGS3 won the late night vote as expected; now we're coming into the morning. And, Zelda always gets going at 8 AM on weekends, and has for years, but most other things take a lot longer to get going with the weekend day vote.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:24:42 AM | message detail
Votes per update needed for RE4 to come back: 3.46
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:33:26 AM | message detail
600 vote barrier reached.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 243/352
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 6:38:00 AM | message detail
Okay RE4 is finally making a move. Hopefully this is a good match
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:43:34 AM | message detail
Denied
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 6:43:45 AM | message detail
and then mgs3 takes it all back

yeah, mgs3 is winning this
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 6:44:28 AM | message detail
RE4 tanked during the day in both previous matches, but that might have been the competition having good day votes. I imagine MGS3's day vote would be worse than Resident Evil's, bad as RE's is.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 6:46:39 AM | message detail
funny thing too is that oblivion cut 24 from RE4 that update
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 7:05:54 AM | message detail
MGS3 and RE4 went 50% that hour
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shadow8021 | Posted 5/31/2009 7:33:01 AM | message detail
Ok, if the next round ends up being TP/MGS3/SSBB/MGS4, who advances?

My money is on Brawl/MGS4
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 7:33:32 AM | message detail
brawl > tp, and theres no debate

mgs4 and mgs3 lff eachother to dust
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 7:35:54 AM | message detail
Yeah, MGS3 has got this. The vote disparity between the two isn't enough to cut 600 votes.

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deadeyedllv | Posted 5/31/2009 7:37:34 AM | message detail
Ok, if the next round ends up being TP/MGS3/SSBB/MGS4, who advances?

Brawl > TP. Was that choice supposed to be difficult?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 7:39:13 AM | message detail
Also, Oblivion doing so well on Twilight Princess makes Tales of Symphonia look a lot better! Aw yeah!

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 7:39:27 AM | message detail
I wouldn't call this match over yet... RE4 wants to tease us into thinking it has a chance apparently.
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deadeyedllv | Posted 5/31/2009 7:39:27 AM | message detail
RE4 making a bit of a move. Let's see what happens next...
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 7:49:37 AM | message detail
over the last 3 hours, TP has already raised 1%. It mgiht end up with 33-34% here
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/31/2009 7:57:05 AM | message detail
I wouldn't call this match over yet... RE4 wants to tease us into thinking it has a chance apparently.

Same here. RE4 has already cut off 90 votes from MGS3's max lead so far. An extended day vote is always a good thing for RE4.
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shane15 | Posted 5/31/2009 8:05:14 AM | message detail
Resi 4 is catching MGS3 very slowly.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 8:05:31 AM | message detail
RE4 won that hour by about 80 votes. Looking good to take the lead if that pace continues
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L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/31/2009 8:09:24 AM | message detail
Can't believe I'm actually rooting for a MGS game to advance, but Brawl and TP advancing in the next round can only help my chances of an epic Brawl upset.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 5/31/2009 8:19:38 AM | message detail
RE4 is doing pretty good with the after church vote.
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voltch | Posted 5/31/2009 8:31:39 AM | message detail
but voters are usually protestant,why would they vote for spanish catholic zombies?
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Master Moltar | Posted 5/31/2009 8:45:34 AM | message detail
Geez, RE4 is actually going to lose this. It may still win if it can pull away if it can actually start making gains when the true day vote starts later, but at this point it's looking like it's just going to be a day-long stall.

Really surprised at the RE4 bomba here, especially after TP/KH2 made it look good last round. FF > MGS > RE overlap I've believed in for a while ringing true here!

Ugh I want to be happy about this, but MGS3 killing MGS4 and itself next round making Brawl > TP virtually a lock friggin' SUCKS. C'mon RE4 comeback
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 8:47:15 AM | message detail

From: Master Moltar | #038
Geez, RE4 is actually going to lose this. It may still win if it can pull away if it can actually start making gains when the true day vote starts later, but at this point it's looking like it's just going to be a day-long stall.

Really surprised at the RE4 bomba here, especially after TP/KH2 made it look good last round. FF > MGS > RE overlap I've believed in for a while ringing true here!

Ugh I want to be happy about this, but MGS3 killing MGS4 and itself next round making Brawl > TP virtually a lock friggin' SUCKS. C'mon RE4 comeback


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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 8:54:03 AM | message detail
uh woah 50 vote cut
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:01:23 AM | message detail
When you think RE4 is done it comes back with a cut like that.

I think we should start using barriers again.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:03:59 AM | message detail
RE4 needs 3.42 votes per update to win.
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shane15 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:08:55 AM | message detail
It's now 487.When i checked about an hour ago it was like 600.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 9:09:46 AM | message detail
its cut about 50 in the last hour
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 9:13:56 AM | message detail
RE4 is officially the favorite here. I'd be surprised to see it lose at this point
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 5/31/2009 9:15:11 AM | message detail
Both MGS3 and Re4 cut TP in that update.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 9:16:09 AM | message detail

From: Zylo the wolf | #046
Both MGS3 and Re4 cut TP in that update.


uhh what? TP gained like 85 on MGS3 and RE4 cut like 40 on MGS3...
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paulg235 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:16:28 AM | message detail
top sucking during the day vote, MGS.
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paulg235 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:16:43 AM | message detail
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Master Moltar | Posted 5/31/2009 9:18:06 AM | message detail
Wow, as soon as I posted RE4 began cutting like a chainsaw man

good stuff
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Match 55 - Bracket: TP > RE4 - Vote: RE4 (247/352)