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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 735
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/30/2009 9:59:35 PM | message detail |
Of all the games that could have knocked RE4 out, MGS3 was the one I least expected. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/30/2009 10:00:09 PM | message detail |
And it'd be the best one! --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/30/2009 10:46:33 PM | message detail |
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/1998-2003.png That silly Japan. This pic also needs work. Just putting my idea out there. --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
Advanced_Koko8 | Posted 5/30/2009 11:13:19 PM | message detail |
Well, MGS3 was not really impressive or good during it's last match, so it is indeed unexpected.. --- New_Jerusalem-I find it messed up that Thomas Jefferson is on the $2 bill. SN_Ninja-Didn't Thomas steal the invention of the lightbulb? Or w/e. |
paulg235 | Posted 5/30/2009 11:17:42 PM | message detail |
MGS3 was less expected than Phoenix Wright? --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
voltch | Posted 5/30/2009 11:28:30 PM | message detail |
how come OOT=total uber fodder in japan? --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |
vash_131 | Posted 5/30/2009 11:30:52 PM | message detail |
how come OOT=total uber fodder in japan? Japan =/= Asia --- Character Battle V (2006): 37th place |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/30/2009 11:48:50 PM | message detail |
Sweet, #8 on the leaderboard and #3 on Guru. Still surprised that all of a sudden I'm actually doing well after I expected to completely suck at this contest. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 6:05:45 AM | message detail |
You better hope that RE4 does better later on though, since MGS3 won that last hour by 10 votes still ;) --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
Sakurafanboy | Posted 5/31/2009 6:08:36 AM | message detail |
Go TP <3 --- Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver official confirmation: May 8th, 2009 Relive the memories while making news ones. . . |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:14:16 AM | message detail |
Until TP starts sharing RE4 is going to do nothing. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 243/352 |
Biolizard28 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:14:54 AM | message detail |
What a thrill. --- i have nothing against pedophiles especially the ones that actually act on their desires-Palmer Now this is entertainment! |
transience | Posted 5/31/2009 6:15:27 AM | message detail |
we aren't going anywhere here. Alucard/Liquid v2 --- xyzzy |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 6:17:08 AM | message detail |
Yeah, this is just gonna be a day long stall with TP massacering both of them --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:19:59 AM | message detail |
how come OOT=total uber fodder in japan? Did you know that Chrono Trigger outsold every Zelda game in Japan? MGS3 by the hour: 1:00 | 50.06 2:00 | 51.25 3:00 | 50.87 4:00 | 49.50 5:00 | 52.58 6:00 | 53.67 7:00 | 52.86 8:00 | 54.50 9:00 | 50.24 MGS3 won the late night vote as expected; now we're coming into the morning. And, Zelda always gets going at 8 AM on weekends, and has for years, but most other things take a lot longer to get going with the weekend day vote. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:24:42 AM | message detail |
Votes per update needed for RE4 to come back: 3.46 --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:33:26 AM | message detail |
600 vote barrier reached. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 243/352 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 6:38:00 AM | message detail |
Okay RE4 is finally making a move. Hopefully this is a good match --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 6:43:34 AM | message detail |
Denied --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 243/352 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 6:43:45 AM | message detail |
and then mgs3 takes it all back yeah, mgs3 is winning this --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/31/2009 6:44:28 AM | message detail |
RE4
tanked during the day in both previous matches, but that might have
been the competition having good day votes. I imagine MGS3's day vote
would be worse than Resident Evil's, bad as RE's is. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 6:46:39 AM | message detail |
funny thing too is that oblivion cut 24 from RE4 that update --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 7:05:54 AM | message detail |
MGS3 and RE4 went 50% that hour --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
shadow8021 | Posted 5/31/2009 7:33:01 AM | message detail |
Ok, if the next round ends up being TP/MGS3/SSBB/MGS4, who advances? My money is on Brawl/MGS4 --- 2008 Hickory Cross Country Becoming One |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 7:33:32 AM | message detail |
brawl > tp, and theres no debate mgs4 and mgs3 lff eachother to dust --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 7:35:54 AM | message detail |
Yeah, MGS3 has got this. The vote disparity between the two isn't enough to cut 600 votes. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
deadeyedllv | Posted 5/31/2009 7:37:34 AM | message detail |
Ok, if the next round ends up being TP/MGS3/SSBB/MGS4, who advances? Brawl > TP. Was that choice supposed to be difficult? --- You can't run away from trouble, there ain't no place that far. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/31/2009 7:39:13 AM | message detail |
Also, Oblivion doing so well on Twilight Princess makes Tales of Symphonia look a lot better! Aw yeah! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 7:39:27 AM | message detail |
I wouldn't call this match over yet... RE4 wants to tease us into thinking it has a chance apparently. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
deadeyedllv | Posted 5/31/2009 7:39:27 AM | message detail |
RE4 making a bit of a move. Let's see what happens next... --- You can't run away from trouble, there ain't no place that far. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 7:49:37 AM | message detail |
over the last 3 hours, TP has already raised 1%. It mgiht end up with 33-34% here --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/31/2009 7:57:05 AM | message detail |
I wouldn't call this match over yet... RE4 wants to tease us into thinking it has a chance apparently. Same here. RE4 has already cut off 90 votes from MGS3's max lead so far. An extended day vote is always a good thing for RE4. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
shane15 | Posted 5/31/2009 8:05:14 AM | message detail |
Resi 4 is catching MGS3 very slowly. --- "School Rumble rocks your world,Stay tuned to see hot girls!" - Class 2-C Cheerleaders <3 Yuko Ogura |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 8:05:31 AM | message detail |
RE4 won that hour by about 80 votes. Looking good to take the lead if that pace continues --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/31/2009 8:09:24 AM | message detail |
Can't
believe I'm actually rooting for a MGS game to advance, but Brawl and
TP advancing in the next round can only help my chances of an epic
Brawl upset. --- Wylvane's current main account. |
RockMFR 5 | Posted 5/31/2009 8:19:38 AM | message detail |
RE4 is doing pretty good with the after church vote. --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 |
voltch | Posted 5/31/2009 8:31:39 AM | message detail |
but voters are usually protestant,why would they vote for spanish catholic zombies? --- It's not fair if FF is in the title it always wins. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2455 |
Master Moltar | Posted 5/31/2009 8:45:34 AM | message detail |
Geez,
RE4 is actually going to lose this. It may still win if it can pull
away if it can actually start making gains when the true day vote
starts later, but at this point it's looking like it's just going to be
a day-long stall. Really surprised at the RE4 bomba here, especially after TP/KH2 made it look good last round. FF > MGS > RE overlap I've believed in for a while ringing true here! Ugh I want to be happy about this, but MGS3 killing MGS4 and itself next round making Brawl > TP virtually a lock friggin' SUCKS. C'mon RE4 comeback --- Moltar Status: complete global saturation Match 55 - Bracket: TP > RE4 - Vote: RE4 (247/352) |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 8:47:15 AM | message detail |
From: Master Moltar | #038 pokeymans to the finals --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 8:54:03 AM | message detail |
uh woah 50 vote cut --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:01:23 AM | message detail |
When you think RE4 is done it comes back with a cut like that. I think we should start using barriers again. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 243/352 |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:03:59 AM | message detail |
RE4 needs 3.42 votes per update to win. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 243/352 |
shane15 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:08:55 AM | message detail |
It's now 487.When i checked about an hour ago it was like 600. --- "School Rumble rocks your world,Stay tuned to see hot girls!" - Class 2-C Cheerleaders <3 Yuko Ogura |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 9:09:46 AM | message detail |
its cut about 50 in the last hour --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 9:13:56 AM | message detail |
RE4 is officially the favorite here. I'd be surprised to see it lose at this point --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
Zylo the wolf | Posted 5/31/2009 9:15:11 AM | message detail |
Both MGS3 and Re4 cut TP in that update. --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. FastFalcon05 > Me |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/31/2009 9:16:09 AM | message detail |
From: Zylo the wolf | #046 uhh what? TP gained like 85 on MGS3 and RE4 cut like 40 on MGS3... --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/110/akaitsuki02avi0001540295ns.jpg |
paulg235 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:16:28 AM | message detail |
top sucking during the day vote, MGS. --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
paulg235 | Posted 5/31/2009 9:16:43 AM | message detail |
*Stop --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
Master Moltar | Posted 5/31/2009 9:18:06 AM | message detail |
Wow, as soon as I posted RE4 began cutting like a chainsaw man good stuff --- Moltar Status: complete global saturation Match 55 - Bracket: TP > RE4 - Vote: RE4 (247/352) |