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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 733

transience | Posted 5/29/2009 5:45:42 PM | message detail
that picture isn't offensive or anything, it's just butt ugly
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 5:46:11 PM | message detail
Oh, and I'm all for "fun" match pics. Don't try to twist things around to make it seem like I'm a spoil sport.

That's an awful picture. There's just no other way around it.
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ZFS | Posted 5/29/2009 5:46:47 PM | message detail
Time to stop getting offended when someone doesn't like your pics Zen

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:48:55 PM | message detail
Leon, you didn't like Smilin' Squall, and you haven't even tried doodling out a match pic. Why should I listen to you? Hell, why do I listen to you guys period? I tried actually making pics that were visible and stats-topic friendly before and got crap.

In the end I'm going to continue making my awesome pics and Bacon will continue to accept them.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:50:22 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | Posted: 5/29/2009 8:46:47 PM | #203
Time to stop getting offended when someone doesn't like your pics Zen


No, it's not that he doesn't like them, it's that he compared it to the pool pic.

Meaning he commented on the visibility.

And that ticks me off more than anything in the world.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:50:45 PM | message detail
oh and MSPaint pics.

That also gets to me.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 5:51:40 PM | message detail
I'm not asking you to listen to me because for one, I know you won't. I'm not any good with Photoshop, so I don't make match pics. I'm not sure why that disqualifies me from saying a bad pic is bad though.

And WHY would I like Smiling Squall? I have obvious reasons for disliking something like that.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 5:52:47 PM | message detail
No, it's not that he doesn't like them, it's that he compared it to the pool pic.

Meaning he commented on the visibility.


Yep. I can barely tell anything about the games from that pic.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 5/29/2009 5:52:53 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bge09/bge09-55-4.jpg

I would rather a picture not be submitted at all than have to look at this tripe. I don't particularly care if I haven't submitted a picture, I have the right to say that something looks absolutely ghastly (and rightfully so!).
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:53:05 PM | message detail
Mmm, fine, I'll stop *****ing in this topic about you guys not liking the visiblity of my match pics, but seriously, if Bacon accepts it then there's no problem with that.

...Except the pool pic. Still don't get that one.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:54:20 PM | message detail
Also I'm going to make that "how to make a match pic" video some day and get everyone on making match pics so we can all be happy

seriously this needs to be something more people do. I think right now it's me, KP, Justin, a few others and MK8.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 5:55:49 PM | message detail
man i knew if that weird pic with the viser guy was gonna cause a ruckus
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 5:55:57 PM | message detail
I'd like to make match pics. I'm just an awful artist. I don't know if I'd be able to do any better even after a "How-to" topic.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/29/2009 5:56:00 PM | message detail
If I knew how, I'd definitely try my hand at a couple. Can they be done in Paint?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 5:56:31 PM | message detail
I think HaRR has done pics in Paint before and got them accepted.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 5:57:03 PM | message detail
I once did a pic in paint and got it accepted.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 5:58:00 PM | message detail
though all I used paint for was cutting and pasting the pic of arthas from the box art lol
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ZFS | Posted 5/29/2009 5:58:37 PM | message detail
Once you know some basics in Photoshop, making pics is pretty easy, especially when it's only for one character/game.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 5:59:04 PM | message detail
I'm an awful artist too. Making most match pics is a lot easier than it sounds.

They can be done in Paint, but Photoshop is about a million times better. Anyone who wants it can feel free to IM me, and I'll help you 'acquire' it and give you a tutorial if you want me to (ask Harrich, I did it for him).

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:59:19 PM | message detail
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8686/zenphotoshopbasics.jpg

Yeah, I made that a while ago for someone.

>_>

not gonna help much is it
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 5:59:42 PM | message detail

From: ZenOfThunder | #220
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8686/zenphotoshopbasics.jpg

Yeah, I made that a while ago for someone.

>_>

not gonna help much is it


that just makes it more intimidating
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Biolizard28 | Posted 5/29/2009 6:12:01 PM | message detail
This contest was a joke the second it was announced as a 4-way.

Let the man have some fun.
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Advanced_Koko8 | Posted 5/29/2009 6:14:37 PM | message detail

From: Biolizard28 | #222
This contest was a joke the second it was announced as a 4-way.


2 ways failed even more. Give me the lesser evil please.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 6:15:47 PM | message detail
if a joke means its more entertaining, then give me a joke contest anyday!
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Master Moltar | Posted 5/29/2009 6:18:42 PM | message detail
Those group shot pictures look really cool for the FFX/KH/SSBM/D2 match.

The one's for the next matches are decent (big boss vs. tuxedo leon epic match)

As for the..uh....joke "picture". Yeah it's awful and crap and doesn't show off the games at all like the water pic, but since I don't make match pics anymore I guess what I think doesn't mean anything! I used to enjoy doing them, but my interest in these contests has diminished too much for me to waste the time and do them anymore.

Also even though I don't like it, it doesn't bother me that it's used. Blame apathy, I guess.

Besides, there's three other pics there, so chances are I won't even have to see it when I vote!
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Match 53 - Bracket: OoT > MGS - Vote: MGS (223/320)
Xuxon | Posted 5/29/2009 6:35:35 PM | message detail
i'm a horrible artist and the first time i used photoshop was to make match pics for the contest last year. it's not hard at all.
paulg235 | Posted 5/29/2009 6:39:17 PM | message detail
Bold Prediction: Moltar sees the horrible pic when voting.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 7:21:12 PM | message detail
Bold Prediction: Once he sees the horrible pic, he will yell DAMN YOU, ATLAS HAAAAALE!
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/29/2009 7:29:38 PM | message detail
My DK-pic in R2 was used, which was made from MSPaint. I've submitted a few others, but that was the only accepted one from MSPaint...plus I have PS now (thanks KP!) and have gotten two more accepted since then (GE's R2 and Tetris/MM2/SMB/LoZ). It helps a LOT, especially with 3D-stuff and logos, and I still certainly don't know much about the program yet. I recommend for people who complain about pics a lot or simply have an interest to get involved with pic-making (and be willing to take some shots if your pics suck like everybody else). You don't have to be an artist either; I'm certainly not one by any means.

That said, Zen, I know you understand that it's already hard to give four options decent attention each in the space provided...but you gave them like 30% of it, made them faded/sepia/B-n-W or something, and made the main focus some unrelated reference. That deserves to be given hell. It's one thing to be weird, unique, or whatever...that picture just misses the point though. Visibility's already a pretty huge issue there, then there's a lot of distraction in it too.


That said, it's one out of four pics and the four games are represented pretty equally in it, so I don't mind so much. It's just very WTF-able.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/29/2009 7:30:53 PM | message detail
Also, lost in all this, RBY passed the 2,000-mark on MGS.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 5/29/2009 7:40:01 PM | message detail
If you need a picture to know what game you want to vote for, you probably don't deserve a good one, imho
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/29/2009 7:58:46 PM | message detail
The picture isn't supposed to tell you what to vote for, it's to get attention and represent what you can choose from. The fact that the picture's there is already attention-getting, so that's covered. Keep the options as the focus of more pics and I'll be cool with a lot more pics.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 8:03:47 PM | message detail
Yeah, sure, bash my pic, but I'm happy with it and I think it looks cool enough to be on the front page.

I honestly don't think anybody off Board 8 cares about the pic anyway.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 8:05:10 PM | message detail
oh and I enjoyed making the pic

also important
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/29/2009 8:07:14 PM | message detail
Match LIV: Final Fantasy X vs. Kingdom Hearts vs. Super Smash Bros. Melee vs. Diablo II

Last Round:

Final Fantasy X – 31.49%
Kingdom Hearts – 27.74%
Metal Gear Solid 2 – 22.44%
GTA: Vice City – 18.33%

Super Smash Bros. Melee – 36.97%
Diablo II – 25.12%
LoZ: The Wind Waker – 19.68%
Halo: Combat Evolved – 18.23%

Analysis

Welcome to the fifth and final match of the Final Fantasy gauntlet. This is a classic example where many bracket makers had two Nintendo games here and went for the upset; however what we have here is two Square games effectively killing the upset. While the end result of this match should be predictable the percent of each game will be interesting to watch as it will give us some insight for next round.

For the first time Melee does not have the extra baggage known as Wind Waker to carry around. People just kind of assumed that Melee was Top 10 material without actually watching it perform and while I wouldn’t be surprised if it was this is the match it has to prove itself in. With nothing to hold it back Melee should take a convincing win here though if it does too well it may just have screwed itself in the next round since another Zelda game is waiting for it next round.

Many people had Metroid Prime in this match in an attempt to weaken Melee and give Final Fantasy X a chance here. I guess people didn’t get the memo that Metroid games aren’t strong and that Samus gets a large portion of her strength from Melee. Instead Kingdom Hearts is here so even if Final Fantasy X was stronger than Melee without help that chance is now blown. Even though it’s going to lose it needs to stay close here so it can take advantage of the LFF next round.

When many thought it was going to be SFF Kingdom Hearts turned around and stood against it rather well. The game’s only purpose is to hold back Final Fantasy X. Like in a few SFF matches we’ve seen a game resist SFF one round then suffer it the next. This tends to happen when the stronger game between the two is being challenged which is what will happen in this scenario. Of course predicting what SFF will do is like predicting the weather for next year.

Unlike the other two Blizzard games Diablo II has done very well in this contest, but it doesn’t have the strength to compete here. Diablo II did better last round than it should have because Melee was weakened by Wind Waker. If Kingdom Hearts decides it want to be SFF this round Diablo II could steal third, but that’s the best it can hope for.

In a normal setting I don’t think many people would take Final Fantasy X over Melee yet this format has caused people to over-think their brackets and they are rewarded by not having the game they wanted in the match and instead having the game they least desire. Too bad tomorrow is a weekend match I would have loved to see whether Kingdom Hearts or Melee had a stronger ASV.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Super Smash Bros. Melee > Final Fantasy X

charmander6000’s Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Melee – 32.83%, Final Fantasy X – 25.63%, Kingdom Hearts – 22.93%, Diablo II – 18.61%

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BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > MGS Points: 219/320
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/29/2009 8:19:41 PM | message detail
I don't have much time, so here are the percentages.

Final Fantasy X - 27, Kingdom Hearts - 23%, Super Smash Bros. Melee - 30%, Diablo II - 20%

Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Melee > Final Fantasy X
Bracket: Halo > Super Smash Bros. Melee (oops)
Favorites: Super Smash Bros. Melee > Final Fantasy X
Favorites Bracket: Metroid Prime > Halo
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/29/2009 8:25:55 PM | message detail
Its sad to see Chrono Trigger dead already, but apparently Pokemon RBY remembered the favor that CT gave it in the character contest and somehow has managed to repay the favor by taking out MGS here.

Unfortunately with the bracket setup theres no way that RBY would face off against Mario 64 for i'm certain that Pikachu would shock Mario to death for killing Chrono Trigger.

Now for the upcoming match, Melee seems to be a clear favorite as the Smash Bros series has shown pretty good independent strength, and like Charmander said, this round it doesn't have another Nintendo game hindering it this so some expect it to dominate this match.

The main question for this match is who takes 2nd? Diablo 2 is certainly the best performing of the 3 Blizzard games, but its fanbase isn't as big as the competition.

Kingdom Hearts has shown to be quite SFF resistant to Final Fantasy games, so it may be the main pick for 2nd.

Final Fantasy X is one game that's both hated and loved at the same time. However, the fact that its with Kingdom Hearts this round puts it at a disadvantage since a lot of people prefer KH more.

Honestly i think Kingdom Hearts might not hurt FFX that much, but likely just enough to deny it 2nd place.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/29/2009 8:55:00 PM | message detail
Another thing I hate is that very good games that come from low profile franchises don't do as well as they should. Resident Evil 4 losing to Twilight Princess? Half-Life 2 losing to Kingdom Hearts II? Metal Gear Solid losing to Pokemon? Super Smash Bros. Brawl being as popular as it is? Yeah, GameFAQs basically only cares about its big name franchises.
XxSoulxX | Posted 5/29/2009 8:56:00 PM | message detail
MGS is one of the biggest franchises here, so why bring it up?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 8:56:28 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #239
MGS is one of the biggest franchises here, so why bring it up?


Its lower profile then Pokemon, to be fair.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/29/2009 8:57:28 PM | message detail
Would he complain when the Mario franchise loses to Legend of Zelda as well?
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/29/2009 8:57:58 PM | message detail
So how long will Melee stay above 50% here?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 8:59:31 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #242
So how long will Melee stay above 50% here?


Doubt it ever hits 50%
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/29/2009 8:59:41 PM | message detail
Yeah, Super Mario Galaxy losing to Twilight Princess is stupid.

But people vote for what they've played, not what they respect, so whatever.
Darklurkr | Posted 5/29/2009 9:00:00 PM | message detail
I still think that it's a travesty that Pokemon won over MGS with sucb big margin. If anything, I would've hated but accepted maybe 25-150 vote upset Not 3000
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/29/2009 9:00:18 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy X 20%

3
Kingdom Hearts 6.67%

1
Super Smash Bros. Melee 46.67%

7
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction 26.67%

4
TOTAL VOTES 15

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Master Moltar | Posted 5/29/2009 9:00:22 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy X 14.29%

1
Kingdom Hearts 0%

0
Super Smash Bros. Melee 71.43%

5
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction 14.29%

1
TOTAL VOTES 7

poor kay aitch
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Match 54 - Bracket: SSBM > FFX - Vote: SSBM (231/336)
GrapefruitKing | Posted 5/29/2009 9:00:24 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy X 31.88%

22
Kingdom Hearts 4.35%

3
Super Smash Bros. Melee 43.48%

30
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction 20.29%

14
TOTAL VOTES 69


uh oh KH

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 9:00:25 PM | message detail
wow KH
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paulg235 | Posted 5/29/2009 9:00:38 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy X 28.57% 6
Kingdom Hearts 4.76% 1
Super Smash Bros. Melee 47.62% 10
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction 19.05% 4
TOTAL VOTES 21

LOL Kingdom Hearts
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