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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 733

KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2009 2:33:29 PM | message detail
Time to start the doom and gloom train for OoT.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/29/2009 2:34:04 PM | message detail
And it looks like Ocarina of Time is probably not going much higher than 38.5% here. MGS, despite its free falling, will still end up around 35% on OoT. What do we think about this performance?

It got the job done, but FFVII wins this round.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 2:34:08 PM | message detail
*Choo-choo*

All aboooooooooooard
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transience | Posted 5/29/2009 2:35:52 PM | message detail
as for the MGS/FFX thing, I think it's best if you stop trying to analyze it down to the percent. things won't make sense that way - I think our top 25 games are way too close together to be able to draw accurate conclusions. it'd be like if Crono/Mega Man/Squall/Vincent/Auron/Tifa/Sora cluster**** had 15 other competitors.

I'll take FFX over MGS. I'll take MGS over KH. I'll take KH and FF8 to be about equal. I don't care if they don't line up perfectly numerically.

I'll say this though - RBY looks to be right on the cusp of that second tier. it could be #3 or it could be #10, but it's definitely in contention with all those Mario games and maybe LTTP depending on where it actually is.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 2:35:56 PM | message detail
OoT laid a bomb this round. 35% on OoT for MGS doesn't sound right, and if we consider OoT = FF7, that means MGS beats CT. I don't like the sound of that
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 2:36:52 PM | message detail
I can get behind MGS = CT.

I don't like what else it implies though!
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paulg235 | Posted 5/29/2009 2:37:15 PM | message detail
*Boards the train*

Let's do this!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2009 2:37:18 PM | message detail
RBY is actually getting LFF'd by FF8 and would beat Ocarina straight up.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/29/2009 2:38:15 PM | message detail
35% on OoT for MGS doesn't sound right

To me it did, but I thought MGS was going to be a top 10 game since the beginning of the contest. Of course FFVII did the same to CT (SFF?) yesterday.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 2:50:14 PM | message detail
1k vote barrier reached
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 2:53:01 PM | message detail
It's looking like we're getting FFVIII > FFIX > Majora's Mask > FFT based on this match, for the record.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/29/2009 2:56:45 PM | message detail
creative, is there any way to break down the updater into like 15 minute timeframes or by the hour instead of just looking at it per 5 minutes?

That would be a good feature for those who like 15 minute updates (which I don't like at all) or by the hour, but as long as I can still view updates for every 5 minutes.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 2:57:50 PM | message detail
Hour would be good, but as optional
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 2:58:50 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'd just like it as an option.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/29/2009 3:04:01 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'd just like it as an option.

The default view for the updater should be 5 minute updates, with options to view it by every 15 minutes or by the hour.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 3:05:21 PM | message detail
and that was pokemons biggest update of the entire day, even bigger then the one it cut OoT
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 3:07:37 PM | message detail
Yeah, that was a massive update. Good grief, RBY.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 3:18:11 PM | message detail
On an unrelated note, I'm trying to get charts done for all the 2007 matches. I just want to mention that Chief's day vote that year is probably the sickest thing I've ever seen. Take a look at this:

Time | The Chief | Yuna | Liquid | Alucard | Demographic
EBV | 40.24% | 24.12% | 15.32% | 20.32% | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 40.80% | 23.94% | 14.24% | 21.02% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 38.53% | 26.28% | 14.57% | 20.62% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 36.67% | 29.78% | 15.05% | 18.49% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 45.60% | 23.92% | 12.38% | 18.10% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 47.51% | 21.60% | 11.96% | 18.92% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 45.19% | 21.43% | 12.92% | 20.47% | (22:00-24:00)
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 3:19:24 PM | message detail
I can't wait till Halo 4 and next time Microsoft pushes him just so we can see an ASV like that again
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transience | Posted 5/29/2009 3:19:36 PM | message detail
it helps when your opponents are Yuna, Liquid and Alucard, but yeah.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2009 3:20:55 PM | message detail
Still, an 11% swing from your worst time to best time is pretty intense stuff.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/29/2009 3:20:56 PM | message detail
It was also a weekend match too. Yikes
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 3:29:54 PM | message detail
it helps when your opponents are Yuna, Liquid and Alucard, but yeah.

Heh, he jumped from 42% to 51% with the ASV in the first round against Vercetti, PaRappa, and Yuna, too. Of course, none of those are day vote champs.

Haven't done the Chief/Luigi/Ganon match yet though, so we'll see how that one went.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 4:13:01 PM | message detail
Hmm, still no match pics. Maybe Bacon is holding out for more.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/29/2009 4:14:06 PM | message detail
Well there's still an hour before the deadline
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 4:16:01 PM | message detail
Yeah, the deadline isn't until 8 P.M., so we'll probably get them around then.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 4:21:54 PM | message detail
Uh oh, MGS cut! Comeback time!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 4:24:55 PM | message detail
as the late Lee corso would say

Not so fast my friend!
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creativename | Posted 5/29/2009 4:47:17 PM | message detail
Nice ASV show by RBY here. Not a great show by OoT overall.

I'm thinking Diablo II will impress tonight. Also wondering if Melee will follow Ocarina's lead with a not-so-impressive performance.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 5:10:18 PM | message detail
Alright, I tried to make the most generic-yet-still-good pic possible. Let me know if I've succeeded.

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TheOceIot | Posted 5/29/2009 5:11:05 PM | message detail
not enough "stop right there criminal scum!"
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/29/2009 5:12:25 PM | message detail
Generic or not, I like that.
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paulg235 | Posted 5/29/2009 5:13:42 PM | message detail
Replace the Brawl Link image with an image of Link from TP and it's good.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/29/2009 5:13:59 PM | message detail
Snake Vs. Link Vs. Leon Vs. Generic Soldier Guy

ggRE4 and Oblivion
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:16:37 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bge09/bge09-55-4.jpg

XFD SUCK IT
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:17:27 PM | message detail
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/29/2009 5:17:46 PM | message detail
wtf is that
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:18:48 PM | message detail

From: The n00b Avenger | Posted: 5/29/2009 8:17:46 PM | #187
wtf is that


That, my friend, is Zen having fun.
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Gaddswell | Posted 5/29/2009 5:18:58 PM | message detail
Only two pics for the last match of round 3?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 5:19:49 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised if me and Zen were the only ones who made pics for it.

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:19:53 PM | message detail

From: Gaddswell | Posted: 5/29/2009 8:18:58 PM | #189
Only two pics for the last match of round 3?


Nobody submitted anything and Bacon got impatient.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/29/2009 5:24:57 PM | message detail
I wonder if MGS3 can manage something here. It certainly has some awesome pictures.
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Kaxon | Posted 5/29/2009 5:26:06 PM | message detail
*Choo-choo*

All aboooooooooooard


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ZFS | Posted 5/29/2009 5:28:20 PM | message detail
Big Boss got this

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:35:37 PM | message detail
Zen Analyzes the Match Pic

Brought to you by MANN CO..: We sell products and get in fights.

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KP made this one! ...In fact, he made the #1 pic for the next three matches! Something fishy is going on here...

Anyway, this pic is VERY solid. The only complaint I have is that FFX is lacking boobs. But Jecht makes up for that because Jecht is not only awesome but he never wears a shirt, soaking up the fangirl vote. And WHAT THE HELL is up with the Amazon chick in the Diablo II pic? She looks like a Ghoul from Fallout. Seriously. I guess it doesn't matter, though. Who gives a crap about the classes? Also a hardy XFD @ the kiddyness of Kingdom Hearts.

Last but not least--

Oh ****. Captain Falcon.

Score: 10/10
Balanced?: Yes
Gimmicky?: No
Advantage: Captain Falcon

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Diablo is too dark but who gives two ****s? FFX looks like the save file screen and I can't complain. I always liked those head shot things. Oh, and hey, Donald and Goofy get ANOTHER match pic appearance! Huzzah. And some terrible placing of the Melee pic. A bunch of chopped off heads and...

****.

Score: 8/10
Balanced?: Yes
Gimmicky?: No
Advantage: Captain Falcon

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Hmmmm, not sure what to say here. The silhouettes are recognizable to me, but it's gonna hurt Diablo in the long run. Not like it has much of a chance...

I love that Tidus art, and it figures the ONE time it gets used, it's all black. Not much to say on this, because in the end it looks nice. I would have used bevel but I say that about almost everything.

Score: 7/10
Balanced?: Yes
Gimmicky?: Kinda
Advantage: Not Diablo


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Hey, it's mine! Lawlz Master Hand. I dunno what I was thinking. I'm not too happy with the finished product, but eh. Can't say this one is balanced because the Hand isn't exactly a Melee figurehead (although he could beat Kuja lawl), but it's not like it's gonna stop Melee from dominating here.

Score: 6/10
Balanced?: Master Hand
Gimmicky: Yup
Advantage: Not Master Hand




SUMMARY:

Overall best: 1
Overall worst: 4
Advantage: Captain Falcon
Disadvantage: Diablo
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:42:52 PM | message detail
Zen *****es About a Bad Match Pic

There's always a black sheep. I'm the shears.

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What the HELL was this guy thinking? Honestly. This is the worst pic I've seen in a while. Way to screw Leon with his secret costume from the PS2 version. I can't imagine what this person was thinking.

"oh hey, I got this sweet render of Leon Kennedy from the PS2 version of RE4, and I just figured out how to use MSPaint! This'll be fun!"

Look at those logos. Look at them. It's not too hard to "obtain" photoshop and magic eraser away the background. Hell, you could google "Twilight Princess logo png" and get this:

http://www.supercheats.com/guides/files/guid/the-legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess/logo.png

Why does Bacon choose this garbage? I mean, gimmicks may not be best, but at least there's effort put into them. God damn that pic is ugly. I can see the anti-aliasing around the characters! MSPaint is not your friend, kids.

Alright, ranting done. I hope we don't get any more pics like this. Balance-wise it's just OK, but quality-wise it's atrocious. This and Coffee Ninja's pic for today. I would again like to raise the question of why Bacon lets us do this if he just picks out garbage.

PS: That's a render from Brawl not TP god damn Bacon take note of this stuff

SUMMARY: WAAAAAAAAAAH
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 5:43:09 PM | message detail
That, my friend, is Zen having fun.

More like, that rivals the water pic for worst ever.

Seriously, you can barely notice ANYTHING about the games. You can barely see the boxes or read the names.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 5:44:02 PM | message detail
At the very least it wasn't the ONLY pic for the match
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/29/2009 5:44:26 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 5/29/2009 8:43:09 PM | #197
That, my friend, is Zen having fun.

More like, that rivals the water pic for worst ever.

Seriously, you can barely notice ANYTHING about the games. You can barely see the boxes or read the names.


wah wah wah Zen can't have fun making a pic for the front page the effects like two votes waaaaah

seriously stats topic

seriously
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 5:44:57 PM | message detail
...Weren't you JUST complaining about a match pic?

Seriously, Zen.

Seriously.
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