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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 733

LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:28:36 PM | message detail
Considering RBY is beating FF8 with room to spare...who's to say?

Take away MGS, add Melee, add the fact that FFX is stronger than FFVIII, and FFX probably wins. Not a guarantee, but I like its chances, obviously.

I don't see why FFX is suddenly way stronger than FF8 when we were debating the two a month ago.

FFX was always stronger. The only time we even considered FFVIII > FFX was after it creamed StarCraft, and then it turned out that StarCraft was crap anyway.

I don't want to rely on a split to push FFX on when, y'know, that's failed time and time again.

But there will be a split, and FFX won't be light years behind these games anyway.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:29:45 PM | message detail
I'm going crazy on my italics there!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 12:35:41 PM | message detail
Nice that RBY is finally able to show off it's ASV chops. Guess GS really did completely sap its day vote.

And yeah, I guess I should reserve judgement on FFX for now. Tonight should tell us a lot. If it gets anywhere close to Melee while KH is in the poll - even losing 55-45 - then it's a definite contender for next round.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:37:46 PM | message detail
Nice that RBY is finally able to show off it's ASV chops.

This is more MGS dying than it is RBY thriving. FFVIII is stalling and cutting it right now.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 12:39:19 PM | message detail
get your logic out of here leon, and let Potato boy have his fanboy moment
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 12:39:24 PM | message detail
Yeah, but it's also going up at almost the same rate as OoT. Not too shabby.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 12:41:01 PM | message detail
lol FF8 just cut 22 from MGS. It may actually cut a good amount during the asv XD
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:43:30 PM | message detail
Yep, MGS is just dying. RBY hasn't budged the last three updates.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 12:47:25 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/detail.php?board=8&topic=49455276&message=545083863

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 12:54:19 PM | message detail
RBY now has its biggest lead of the match
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/29/2009 12:55:48 PM | message detail
Wow, RBY...I doubted it pretty much every step of the way, and I was only semi-right last round. Do I see right, that it cut LoZ:OoT at one point? RBY's beasting, and it would be hard to buy an argument where it's not in the top five of people's lists for me right now. I mean, SSBM got ~37% against FF7 in 2004 and we called that a probable over-performance yet still in our Super Seven at the time...RBY's going to have 37+% on LoZ:OoT and beat MGS and FF8 despite LFF and potential SFF. Very impressive...

...which brings up the next round, which'll probably be LoZ:OoT/RBY/FFX/SSBM. FFX is going to do significantly better than FF8 today, but I don't know if it's over for RBY at that point yet. SSBM's not been that impressive this contest so far (though tomorrow is its first fair shot to try), SSBB apparently over-shadowed it, and I don't really know how much I want to take a Gamecube game to hang in there with two of the biggest Nintendo-titles ever -- especially since SSBM's got like nine playable characters from those games and got a lot of the SSB-series's popularity come from the randomness of Poke-balls. Throw in that I have a hard time seeing RBY lose much percentage at this point, and SSBM's probably going to be a somewhat-distant fourth. I've trusted FFX > FF8 from the beginning and it will stand out more than ever, but FFX surely isn't 55-45'ing FF8 indirectly and I don't know if SSBM's going to hurt RBY that much more.

RBY's next match is a doozy and probably decides the championship.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 5/29/2009 12:59:38 PM | message detail
The fact that RBY isn't budging in the face of OoT's day vote shows how good it's day vote actually is.
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xp1337 | Posted 5/29/2009 1:01:14 PM | message detail
Do I see right, that it cut LoZ:OoT at one point?

I don't think so. But I do think there was an update where OoT only gained 3.
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xp1337 | Posted 5/29/2009 1:02:08 PM | message detail
Actually, wait, I take that back. Maybe so.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 1:02:17 PM | message detail

From: xp1337 | #113
Do I see right, that it cut LoZ:OoT at one point?

I don't think so. But I do think there was an update where OoT only gained 3.


RBY did cut it about 5 AM or so
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 1:03:01 PM | message detail
but FFX surely isn't 55-45'ing FF8 indirectly

...Why not?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 1:03:16 PM | message detail
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Gaddswell | Posted 5/29/2009 1:03:29 PM | message detail
The 5:22 AM update had RBY cutting OoT by 8 votes.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 1:03:44 PM | message detail
5:22. 8 vote cut.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 1:03:57 PM | message detail
Cutting one of the big two, at any time of the day, will raise eyebrows
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xp1337 | Posted 5/29/2009 1:04:24 PM | message detail
Yeah, you're right. I messed up, RBY did get at least one cut on OoT.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 1:04:47 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'm pretty sure FFVII hasn't been cut in the first three rounds yet.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 1:06:43 PM | message detail
Pokemon gained like 420 votes that last hour. 4 more of those hours during the "Heart" of the ASV gives it a 2000 vote lead, and with diluted hours, we might still get up to 3000.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/29/2009 1:06:50 PM | message detail
I'd still probably take FF8 to beat KH, and it nearly got 47% on FFX.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 1:16:03 PM | message detail
I'd still probably take FF8 to beat KH, and it nearly got 47% on FFX.

For some reason, I figured you'd bring that up. FFX vs. MGS: Who you got?

You know, for a while we assumed that a lot of the FFs were in the same general range, but it really doesn't seem to be the case.
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MnMZero | Posted 5/29/2009 1:19:10 PM | message detail
Psshhhhh, this is all just Snake popping a fake death pill and fooling everybody. When we all least suspect it, he's going to pop right up and stab that yellow rat with a fork!




Wait, that's the wrong game isn't it? :(
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ZFS | Posted 5/29/2009 1:22:50 PM | message detail
gotta save the fork for leon kennedy

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HaRRicH | Posted 5/29/2009 1:32:30 PM | message detail
Valid point -- it's hard for me to take MGS > FFX, though it should definitely be close. MGS has done enough to differ from MGS2 to keep it close. I still don't trust how much RBY will drop due to SSBM, but I like FFX more than before with that perspective.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 1:34:20 PM | message detail
Also, MGS vs. KH: Who you got?

I don't think that's a clear cut match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/29/2009 1:44:56 PM | message detail
MGS > FF8 >= KH feels pretty right; MGS is 56-44'ing FF8 and KH isn't going to be far from FF8 one way or another.

Then again, that same projection has MGS > FFX, which I'm not too comfortable with. Bah, these games are a wreck to sort out. Either way, I'm definitely taking MGS > KH head-to-head in either format.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/29/2009 1:58:28 PM | message detail
Damn you Pokemon!
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AmazingKirby | Posted 5/29/2009 2:12:08 PM | message detail
Maybe some weird crazy factor will let KH advance tomorrow instead of FFX! That would be cool!
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/29/2009 2:15:08 PM | message detail
"Maybe some weird crazy factor will let KH advance tomorrow instead of FFX! That would be cool!"

Doubt that'll happen. Even the power of DARKNESS won't secure a win for KH.
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 2:15:47 PM | message detail
If some weird crazy factor allows FFX and KH both to advance, then that's cool, but not KH at FFX's expense!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2009 2:17:45 PM | message detail
*gets back from from work, logs onto GameFAQS and nervously checks the poll*

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 2:21:19 PM | message detail
Blasphemous use of Tiger Woods not permitted in this topic
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2009 2:22:17 PM | message detail
You're right, I wasn't nervously checking the poll, I was pretty damn confident in what the result would be!

Though I didn't think it would be this much, good lord Pokemon.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/29/2009 2:23:24 PM | message detail
Yeah, that's a Tiger misuse right there.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 2:23:27 PM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #138
You're right, I wasn't nervously checking the poll, I was pretty damn confident in what the result would be!

Though I didn't think it would be this much, good lord Pokemon.


gonna be like 2000 once this is done
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 5/29/2009 2:24:20 PM | message detail
FFX beat MGS2 easily. While MGS1 > MGS2 by a decent margin, I don't think that the MGS1 does better on MGS2 indirectly than FFX did. I figure 55-45 at best.

So yeah, FFX > MGS, and adding another Nintendo game to the poll, I'm definitely liking OOT > FFX for next round.
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transience | Posted 5/29/2009 2:25:48 PM | message detail

Though I didn't think it would be this much, good lord Pokemon.


good lord MGS is probably more like it. that game shrivels in the daytime.

but yeah, Pokemon's good too. looking forward to the RBY/OOT/SSBM battle for the day.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2009 2:26:53 PM | message detail
Ha, yeah I didn't really look at the percentages, just the votes. Good job MGS.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/29/2009 2:27:29 PM | message detail
Yeah, at least this is a godsend for FFX. I can't imagine it losing to MGS4, and I get the feeling something as new as Brawl would completely collapse against OoT, meaning that RE4 could be the last realistic threat to topple it before the finals. I'd love to see that, but I'd also love to see how badly LttP and FFX could get creamed.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/29/2009 2:28:22 PM | message detail
LttP doesn't get creamed!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 2:30:31 PM | message detail
FFX will get creamed harder than LTTP will.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 2:32:00 PM | message detail
And it looks like Ocarina of Time is probably not going much higher than 38.5% here. MGS, despite its free falling, will still end up around 35% on OoT. What do we think about this performance?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 2:32:01 PM | message detail
everytime people say creamed i think of dirty things
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/29/2009 2:32:02 PM | message detail
Absolutely, but I'd still like to see the extent.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/29/2009 2:32:21 PM | message detail
That's disgusting man keep it PG.
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