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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 733
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/28/2009 11:27:44 PM | message detail |
A SURVEILLANCE CAMERA?! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 11:42:08 PM | message detail |
A HIND D?! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 8:00:13 AM | message detail |
GrrrLIQUID!!!! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
LordTMax | Posted 5/29/2009 8:01:31 AM | message detail |
GrrrSNAAKE!! --- - Team Crono ~Leader~ Chrono Trigger, Is the best game ever. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 8:01:51 AM | message detail |
Don't worry. MGS will live on...THROUGH THIS RAT! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/29/2009 8:02:08 AM | message detail |
also charmander, remember how you said one vote didn't matter it might matter in this match! If it's this close with 5 minutes to go it'll be rallying that will decide the match and besides why would your vote be worth more than the other 30k votes that also helped it win. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > MGS Points: 219/320 |
paulg235 | Posted 5/29/2009 8:02:19 AM | message detail |
BOLD PREDICTION: OoT's first place percentage is less than 50%. --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/29/2009 8:03:49 AM | message detail |
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 8:04:04 AM | message detail |
its all about who can suck less here --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
KingBartz | Posted 5/29/2009 8:06:05 AM | message detail |
I wonder how long the two games will be trading. --- Check out my Guru bracket: http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=60 GURU STATUS: Eliminated |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/29/2009 8:06:31 AM | message detail |
Pokemon has a three vote lead. LOL FF8. |
Master Moltar | Posted 5/29/2009 8:06:52 AM | message detail |
I posted Tiger because MGS was winning at the moment obviously! Just went back and actually looked at the updates overnight and read through the topic, and yes Pokemon is definitely the favorite at this point. But just like the CT fanboyz yesterday, I'm hoping MGS is going to defy trends and not die during the ASV to win! Believe won't fail me today! --- Moltar Status: complete global saturation Match 53 - Bracket: OoT > MGS - Vote: MGS (223/320) |
Karma Hunter | Posted 5/29/2009 8:08:24 AM | message detail |
Just
think, if this were a weekend (or a number of other grievances I won't
deign to go into) we'd be witnessing an all-time classic right now
instead of a run-of-the-mill stall. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 8:09:00 AM | message detail |
this match may break a record for most lead changes --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/29/2009 8:09:07 AM | message detail |
MGS: My, Pokemon may I take the lead? Pokemon: Sure thing old chap. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > MGS Points: 219/320 |
WarThaHedgehog | Posted 5/29/2009 8:10:28 AM | message detail |
You did it wrong. MGS: Ekans, ekans ekanssss. *adjust monocle* RBY: Pika, Pika! *sips tea* --- http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3230/takerface.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 8:10:53 AM | message detail |
Also,
I don't buy RBY killing the asv. GS had a great asv, sure. But RBY
seems to have different trends and isn't as much of a day game. I mean
its likely gonna take like a 500-600 lead, but MGS should win the snv... --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/29/2009 8:11:24 AM | message detail |
Oh hey look it's the worst stats topic fad this side of the Canadia ASV. Bring back Crono/Vincent comparioson tbqh. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
Karma Hunter | Posted 5/29/2009 8:12:14 AM | message detail |
Worst
kept secret about the MGS series - its SNV is significantly worse than
its ASV. Only when going up against entities that have an even worse
SNV (to be fair, most Nintendo) can it even look remotely respectable. --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 8:12:16 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3486&type=2&seconds=60&max=0 Those final 2 hour trends scare me --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
WarThaHedgehog | Posted 5/29/2009 8:12:32 AM | message detail |
I thought the worst stats topic fad were the 25 games that make up the top ten? --- http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3230/takerface.gif |
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/29/2009 8:13:14 AM | message detail |
Worst fad is allowing War to post here. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 8:13:43 AM | message detail |
Seems like MGS might be finally ready to build a DSV lead. gained 48 last 2 updates --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/29/2009 8:14:12 AM | message detail |
MGS: lol Pokemon: *uses monocle* My GAWD. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > MGS Points: 219/320 |
WarThaHedgehog | Posted 5/29/2009 8:14:41 AM | message detail |
OH MY! Vintage Metal Gear Solid! --- http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3230/takerface.gif |
Scott_Pilgrim | Posted 5/29/2009 8:19:43 AM | message detail |
Guys. This is Crono/ Vincent all over again, with the ASV and the DS9 and the obvious parallels to GTA:VC/ Metroid Prime. Am I doing it right? --- Oh, sorry, I got distracted by FastFalcon. http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=169 |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/29/2009 8:20:57 AM | message detail |
Since when is the V and 9 close on the keyboard? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > MGS Points: 219/320 |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 5/29/2009 8:21:07 AM | message detail |
the DS9 !? I'm scared --- Today's prediction: Ocarinaz 38.62% - Orphanage 21.26% - Oak 20.42% - Otacon 19.70% Status: meh |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 8:22:04 AM | message detail |
so lets say this is somehow close in the final hour who does b8 rally for. Pokemon I'm thinking, but.. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
WarThaHedgehog | Posted 5/29/2009 8:22:40 AM | message detail |
How the heck do you make that typo? --- http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3230/takerface.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/29/2009 8:23:22 AM | message detail |
who does b8 rally for. Pokemon I'm thinking, but.. Both, so much that both tie and end up advancing. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > MGS Points: 219/320 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 8:23:57 AM | message detail |
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2581/r3fallout3.png --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 5/29/2009 8:24:44 AM | message detail |
good stuff, Potato person --- Today's prediction: Ocarinaz 38.62% - Orphanage 21.26% - Oak 20.42% - Otacon 19.70% Status: meh |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 8:25:17 AM | message detail |
I like that pic, KP --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
WarThaHedgehog | Posted 5/29/2009 8:25:21 AM | message detail |
Replace Mario/Link with Link firing a ray gun at an angle or something --- http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3230/takerface.gif |
KingBartz | Posted 5/29/2009 8:25:28 AM | message detail |
^ good pic. --- Check out my Guru bracket: http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=60 GURU STATUS: Eliminated |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/29/2009 8:27:04 AM | message detail |
Good pic. Brawl doesn't have a ridiculous color advantage, although MGS4, CoD4, and F3 look like three of the same game. Oh, gaming industry. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 8:31:07 AM | message detail |
Thanks! Will submit, then. (far too lazy to look up the Ray Gun thing) --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 8:49:24 AM | message detail |
Prediction: MGS has a lead of 300 by the time the ASV rolls around. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/29/2009 8:51:39 AM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | Posted: 5/29/2009 11:27:04 AM | #037 Yeah it's a joke. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 8:58:14 AM | message detail |
Its funny how that pic makes them all look like the same game, when they're all different genres MGS4: Third Person Shooter CoD4: FPS FO3: Western RPG --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
HotSkitty | Posted 5/29/2009 9:21:52 AM | message detail |
MGS seems to be pulling away now, though Pokemon should still come back with the ASV. --- Never gonna give you up. |
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/29/2009 9:22:54 AM | message detail |
MGS isn't pulling away, it's just stalling at 50 votes instead of 0. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
BDawg | Posted 5/29/2009 9:45:02 AM | message detail |
I didn't really think Ocarina would be going up in the during school vote but hey, it needs all the percentage it can get. --- Should I start running now? |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/29/2009 10:08:49 AM | message detail |
Metal Gear Solid sure likes to play around. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > MGS Points: 219/320 |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/29/2009 10:14:29 AM | message detail |
Metal Gear Solid Pokemon Final Fantasy X Super Smash Bros. Melee Super Smash Bros. Brawl Resident Evil 4 Metal Gear Solid 4 That's quite a few games jostling for the last finals spot. Unfortunately, I don't expect too much excitement out of it. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 10:26:15 AM | message detail |
Brawl pic needs Solid Snake with the sliding mortar launch. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 10:26:24 AM | message detail |
AND DISJOINTED HITBOXES --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/29/2009 10:30:49 AM | message detail |
http://i32.tinypic.com/5khsup.jpg God damnit, Snake. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/29/2009 10:45:39 AM | message detail |
Well apparently FF8 wasn't as powerful as people implied it was. And damn, Pokemon is right behind MGS! Does Pokemon actually have a chance to kill off Snake here? --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |