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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 732

voltch | Posted 5/28/2009 10:34:09 PM | message detail
so VI or VIII,both didn't do themselves justice this round,but which comes after X?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 10:35:22 PM | message detail
...I'm not even sure what you're asking.
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transience | Posted 5/28/2009 10:35:38 PM | message detail
I don't trust FFX. we've clamored for fanbase splits a bunch of times and they've rarely worked out - that match is a huge tossup.

FFX or MGS4 look golden though. the possibility of a OOT/SSBM/SSBB/MGS4 semifinal is just too much. I guess it could be RE4 in place of MGS4 too.
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transience | Posted 5/28/2009 10:36:00 PM | message detail
voltch'd
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ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 10:37:57 PM | message detail
The thing is that FFX doesn't need to rely on any significant fanbase split there. It won't be able to challenge Melee with KH hanging around, but unless it completely bombs there, I think it's right there in strength with the competition, making the fanbase split just icing on the cake.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 10:38:30 PM | message detail
FFX has shown itself to be legit though. FFVIII was an unproven commodity. Besides, FFX is this generation's FFVII (despite only being 4 years younger...), so it's still got relevance and recency to it.

The only problem there is the fact that OoT doesn't seem to be doing much of anything to RBY, and it may not do anything to SSBM.

After seeing this, anyone still confident OoT beats FFVII if it's OoT/LTTP/FFVII/FFX? Yeah, I know LTTP's a different story than RBY, but...
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transience | Posted 5/28/2009 10:41:11 PM | message detail
we'll see. I'll rant on FF10 in my crew writeup tomorrow.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 10:42:02 PM | message detail
Oh boy!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 10:51:45 PM | message detail
at this point, MGS might get like a 200-300 vote lead in the dead hours, but its done come day
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 10:55:38 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | FFVII | GoldenEye | Mario 64 | C. Trigger | Demographic
EBV | 35.23% | 15.61% | 27.13% | 22.04% | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 36.86% | 15.68% | 23.49% | 23.97% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 43.06% | 14.27% | 20.32% | 22.35% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 43.42% | 14.09% | 22.98% | 19.51% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 41.98% | 14.55% | 21.43% | 22.04% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 40.06% | 14.78% | 24.52% | 20.64% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 41.70% | 14.09% | 21.71% | 22.51% | (22:00-24:00)

FFVII starts off slow as usual, but it peaked after the morning vote this time, for whatever the reason. It dropped from there. Mario 64 with a great board vote and an awful night vote. ASV was easily its best time. CT had a good Power Hour but couldn't keep it up overnight. The morning vote was worse for it than the ASV though. GoldenEye pretty balanced overall, but the first hour was its best time yet again.

Yesterday's stats:

Final Fantasy VII – 50.00%
Super Mario 64 – 35.38%
Chrono Trigger – 34.35%
GoldenEye – 26.13%

Division Stats

Final Fantasy VII – 50.00%
Super Mario 64 – 35.38%
Chrono Trigger (Round 3) – 34.35%
Chrono Trigger (Round 2) – 34.10%
GoldenEye 007 (Round 2) – 33.03%
Super Mario RPG (Round 1) – 30.94%
Mario Kart 64 (Round 1) – 29.98%
Super Mario RPG (Round 2) – 26.48%
GoldenEye (Round 3) – 26.13%
Resident Evil 2 – 25.81%
Symphony of the Night (Round 1) – 23.72%
Resident Evil – 22.07%
Star Fox 64 – 20.86%
Mario Kart 64 (Round 2) – 20.70%
Yoshi’s Island (Round 1) – 20.25%
Symphony of the Night (Round 2) – 18.84%
Earthbound – 14.79%
Kirby Super Star – 13.85%
Donkey Kong Country 2 – 13.50%
Suikoden – 11.10%
Yoshi’s Island (Round 2) – 10.86%
Lufia II – 4.76%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 10:58:50 PM | message detail
By the way, MGS currently has about 35% on OoT right now (probably gonna finish with less than that though!).

MGS vs. Mario 64: Who you got?
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transience | Posted 5/28/2009 10:59:32 PM | message detail
Mario 64.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/28/2009 11:00:13 PM | message detail
Gut instinct says Mario.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 11:00:52 PM | message detail
Although there are reasons in both matches not to trust the number (Mario 64/GE and OoT/RBY).
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transience | Posted 5/28/2009 11:02:37 PM | message detail
that's just part of the territory (fourways). let's just count them as equal and move on (though OOT probably suffers more, but whatever)
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Janus5000 | Posted 5/28/2009 11:03:13 PM | message detail
So...

SMB3/SM64/SSBM/RBY. How would that turn out?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 11:04:02 PM | message detail
Mario 64 is probably least likely to win that one, I think.

...I don't even know where to begin.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 11:06:18 PM | message detail
and just like that, RBY takes back all the cuts and more that MGS made in the last 50 min
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/28/2009 11:10:35 PM | message detail
It's Pokemon fever all over again!
Silver_Ermine | Posted 5/28/2009 11:13:00 PM | message detail
Oh noooo! Not again!
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/28/2009 11:21:15 PM | message detail
At least Pokemon isn't overrated like Diablo II.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 11:21:42 PM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #371
At least Pokemon isn't overrated like Diablo II.


Have you even played Diablo 2? >_>
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hochiminhX | Posted 5/28/2009 11:26:51 PM | message detail
Well, there's clear FF/MGS overlap here. This is what happens when you have 2 popular PSX games. Also explains why FFT did badly. But it matters not. Ocarina of Time failed to match FFVII this round despite a weaker 4-pack. ROUND 3 GOES TO FINAL FANTASY VII


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hochiminhX | Posted 5/28/2009 11:33:35 PM | message detail
MGS currently has 36.08% on OoT
SM64 got 35.38% on FFVII


So if you think MGS > SM64 and CT then OoT is looking great!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 11:38:27 PM | message detail
FFVIII cuts RBY.

It begins.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 11:38:32 PM | message detail
Wow Ocarina is pathetic.
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hochiminhX | Posted 5/28/2009 11:39:52 PM | message detail
OoT isn't pathetic but all it did was meet expectations. If it wants to pay with the big boys then it needs to surpass expectations.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 11:40:19 PM | message detail
And yeah, as expected, FFVIII's doing well with the night vote. It's probably part of the reason MGS can't do much to RBY right now.

First it was FFVII hindering CT, and now it's FFVIII hindering MGS.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 5/28/2009 11:40:24 PM | message detail
ya.. I'd never take mgs over CT or SM64. Ocarina will most likely fall a couple %. Though, it's regained 2-3% with the morning/asv. Im guessing it'll end in 39.xx%
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hochiminhX | Posted 5/28/2009 11:45:02 PM | message detail
And yeah, as expected, FFVIII's doing well with the night vote. It's probably part of the reason MGS can't do much to RBY right now.

First it was FFVII hindering CT, and now it's FFVIII hindering MGS.




Watch KH hinder FFX tomorrow which allows Diablo II to advance. ...Which wouldn't be all bad. That would leave FFVII with absolutely no distractions for the final.


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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 11:58:33 PM | message detail
My god, Ocarina is freefalling. Honestly might not even be top five at this rate.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:00:07 AM | message detail
Honestly might not even be top five at this rate.

I'm going to allow this.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:00:57 AM | message detail
And FFVIII might end up looking decently respectable by the time this thing's over. It's averaging around 19-20% updates right now and should for most of the night.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/29/2009 12:02:14 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #382
Honestly might not even be top five at this rate.

I'm going to allow this.


You wouldn't say that if you gave the game an honest chance. It's still flat out better than Twilight Princess, in my opinion.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:02:56 AM | message detail
I'm gonna play it after I beat Twilight Princess!

Ocarina of Time must start slow because I struggled just to get to where I am now.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/29/2009 12:06:18 AM | message detail
You should be alright now, because not much starts slower than Twilight Princess. In OoT, 20-30 minutes gets you in the first dungeon. TP took, what, two or three hours?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:07:20 AM | message detail
Yeah, but I enjoyed the build-up!

Aw yeah, wrasslin' goats
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 12:10:27 AM | message detail
FF8 probably ends up like 16%. Day vote shouldn't be kind to it
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:11:51 AM | message detail
FFVIII will probably hit 18% before morning. It's not going to drop 2%.
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Sonic_Factor | Posted 5/29/2009 12:12:42 AM | message detail
oot needs to hurry up and die in %.. whats taking so long
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FastFalcon05 | Posted 5/29/2009 12:12:51 AM | message detail
I had SM64 yesterday but have MGS today and all that comes to mind when I think of the impending morning doom is:
Thy kiddies giveth and thy kiddies taketh away.

hang in there mgs, I'm sure those four vote cuts will amount to something!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:13:33 AM | message detail
The game's already dropped .9% from its peak. What more do you want?

(About 20% would be good!)
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 12:13:41 AM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 12:14:40 AM | message detail
Yeah, 17% is probably a better end number for it
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:15:37 AM | message detail
Against Pokemon and Zelda? I can see it dropping 2%!

Its day vote isn't THAT bad. It lost about .8% against OoT last round. Adding RBY isn't going to double that, and it's at a lower percentage this time anyway.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/29/2009 12:17:14 AM | message detail
TP's opening was indeed way too damn long
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/29/2009 12:17:38 AM | message detail
But darn it, wrestling barnyard animals was worth the time spent!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 12:19:34 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #395
Against Pokemon and Zelda? I can see it dropping 2%!

Its day vote isn't THAT bad. It lost about .8% against OoT last round. Adding RBY isn't going to double that, and it's at a lower percentage this time anyway.


Yeah I thought about it and deleted the post >_>
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Draco1214 | Posted 5/29/2009 12:42:56 AM | message detail
Hmmmm...looks like MGS might really take the lead overnight after all. Sucks that it'll get buried in the day.

Man, and here I was thinking that if it pounded FF8, it had a great shot against FFX/SSBM...it's doing that and it's still going to lose.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/29/2009 12:56:12 AM | message detail
It might build up a 200 or 300 vote lead, but that will be demolished during the morning vote
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