GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 732
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/28/2009 7:09:18 PM | message detail |
A-Down-Right-A-Down-Right ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
xp1337 | Posted 5/28/2009 7:10:54 PM | message detail |
Been a while since I've last played OoT, but is that Requiem of Spirit? If so, best Ocarina Song in the game! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SC2k6 (190/240) 99.4958 Percentile |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/28/2009 7:11:55 PM | message detail |
Actually I was trying to recite the Song of Time, but I'm positive that's wrong. I was thinking Down-A-Right-Down-A-Right. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
XxSoulxX | Posted 5/28/2009 7:12:14 PM | message detail |
Song of Storms? --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
paulg235 | Posted 5/28/2009 7:12:15 PM | message detail |
What? *Figures it out* oh i c wut u did there --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 5/28/2009 7:12:49 PM | message detail |
Actually no, that isn't a song. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
xp1337 | Posted 5/28/2009 7:13:16 PM | message detail |
Song of Time is Right-A-Down-Right-A-Down, I'm 99% sure. I think the first post is Requiem of Spirit, but I don't remember the warp songs at all really. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SC2k6 (190/240) 99.4958 Percentile |
XxSoulxX | Posted 5/28/2009 7:14:03 PM | message detail |
None of the warp songs repeated themselves. It's not a song. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
XxSoulxX | Posted 5/28/2009 7:14:46 PM | message detail |
Sun Song is A-Down-Up-A-Down-Up, which is the closest to an actual song. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
paulg235 | Posted 5/28/2009 7:16:43 PM | message detail |
http://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic1-080408.php --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
xp1337 | Posted 5/28/2009 7:16:56 PM | message detail |
Yeah,
you're right. Not sure why I thought it was Requiem of Spirit then,
other than I am pretty sure both start with A, and I think only
consists of A, Down, and Right, although in a different form. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SC2k6 (190/240) 99.4958 Percentile |
andylt | Posted 5/28/2009 7:17:26 PM | message detail |
Soul, Sun Song is Right-Down-Up-Right-Down-Up. Song of storms is A-down-up-A-down-up. --- I'm pretty sure I don't need FastFalcon in my sig anymore. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 7:44:34 PM | message detail |
FFVIII Irish Jig > Sissy fairy playing an ocarina --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 7:45:50 PM | message detail |
Polar bearz beat all this --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 9:16:16 PM | message detail |
Yep, MGS had brackets --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
Yesmar | Posted 5/28/2009 9:16:38 PM | message detail |
with
FF8 failing today, it looks like we have zero true shows of fanbase
overlap. FF games just overperformed in round 1 for whatever reason. Or FFVIII is suffering from being in last place, an effect we have mountains of evidence to support. Is this going to be the new "Pics do Matter" where it takes 4 years for people to finally acknowledge that it's true? --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
Karma Hunter | Posted 5/28/2009 9:16:43 PM | message detail |
well that wasn't minimizing the damage --- turnturnturn your brain in http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
Gaddswell | Posted 5/28/2009 9:16:47 PM | message detail |
BRACKETS --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/28/2009 9:17:00 PM | message detail |
Ouch, MGS fell off the map on that update. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 9:17:02 PM | message detail |
RBY for top 5 talk sounds like a 10 minute in reaction. Yeah, five minutes in last round, people said the same thing. RBY is incredibly front-loaded. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/28/2009 9:17:04 PM | message detail |
lol FF8 http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/category/final-fantasy-viii/ l o ****ing l --- Wylvane's current main account. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 9:17:06 PM | message detail |
so uh.. how bad does this make Starcraft look --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/28/2009 9:17:22 PM | message detail |
Also, this FF8 result makes no sense. Overperforming I can buy, but not overperforming with FFIX in the poll. Maybe MGS really is doing to it what SM64 did to Goldeneye? --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
transience | Posted 5/28/2009 9:17:23 PM | message detail |
Why though? It's not like MGS4 has gone above and beyond our expectations. I can buy it being the second strongest due to all the emotion it brought via ending the story arc, but above the original? It has to give Brawl a very respectable performance before I buy that. but it hasn't gone below our expectations either. MGS has done that. MGS winning this was somewhat of a formality pre-contest, with only Starcraft really posing a threat. now that it's in contention, people are breathing a sigh of relief. a lot has changed in two months. let's let MGS4 get a real match on first. I think a lot more of MGS4 than others so I'll bite the bullet when the time comes if it bombs. --- xyzzy |
BDawg | Posted 5/28/2009 9:17:24 PM | message detail |
Y'all made Link mad I hope you're ready to pay the price. --- Should I start running now? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 9:17:41 PM | message detail |
Or FFVIII is suffering from being in last place, an effect we have mountains of evidence to support. We have mountains of circumstantial evidence and conjecture that can easily be explained away. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
transience | Posted 5/28/2009 9:17:51 PM | message detail |
anyway, enough of the small time stuff. what do we think of Ocarina of Time? --- xyzzy |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 9:17:52 PM | message detail |
Looks like Ocarina doesn't give a ****. Pokemon winning would not be ideal, but at least FFX would be guaranteed. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/28/2009 9:18:19 PM | message detail |
The same, as long as you judge it by its performance against OoT. Though Starcraft getting over 25% on OoT, and FF8 blowing it away in round 1, and the turns around and gets like only 3% against OoT itself EXPLAIN THAT X-STATS. EXPLAIN THAT --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/28/2009 9:18:30 PM | message detail |
Can MGS still win this? --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 5/28/2009 9:18:33 PM | message detail |
Oops. I should have checked to make sure the topic didn't fill up. >_> 16 people fell off the Top 50 today. Ultima_X, Hybrid_Osiris, BaddReligion, kaserdan, seniorchumchum, zerosuit_skip, T4libKw4li, DrLagoona, Kasoro, Ryu_X, ReGenIo, Xcarvengerx, creativeme, Cyclone_Striker, vortch and zuidy19 did not have FF7 > Mario 64 as yesterday's winners. 17 people scored half points and lived. Former first place Mac_Arrowny, Yesmar88, XxSoulxX2, Ludwig_Von_6, Mirrorzzz, MajorMitch, menji76, kaonashi1, ZenOfThunder, fox813, Ultimaphazon, xcamel24, Superfreak8, Gigaduckman, funkyspunkymonk, krjtgb and KadenceInc also did not have FF7 > Mario 64 as yesterday's winners. --- Shall I take you with me? To the place in this town where wishes come true... |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/28/2009 9:18:43 PM | message detail |
TRE did you unlock the topic to get post 501? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > MGS Points: 219/320 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 9:18:44 PM | message detail |
anyway, enough of the small time stuff. what do we think of Ocarina of Time? Still 45% on FFX. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 9:18:52 PM | message detail |
From: transience | #027 I think its looking pretty good but needs to get low 40s at the end here (like 41-42%) for me to consider it to be as impressive as FF7. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/28/2009 9:18:53 PM | message detail |
3% better* --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/28/2009 9:18:58 PM | message detail |
Starcraft
looked bad after last round regardless of how FFVIII did this round.
It's just now it looks like a lock to be the weakest game to get out of
the first round from this division. --- http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/War13104/CenaJFrog.gif hey look i'm war and i'm stupid - WVI |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/28/2009 9:19:18 PM | message detail |
Yeah, if RBY advances, I'm calling it the favorite over FFX. I don't think FFX gets anywhere near on FF8 what RBY is now. (all based off of 15 minutes into the match percentages!) --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 9:19:19 PM | message detail |
Ocarina is off to a good start, but it's got quite a lot of work to do. Its goal is 41.25%. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 9:19:43 PM | message detail |
Ocarina's
doing fine here, but I don't think there's much doubt that FFVII's pack
was stronger and it scored 41%. Needs to do a good bit better than that
to be on par, I would think. --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/28/2009 9:19:55 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #028 Pokemon winning would be great for my bracket, actually, since I have FFX > OoT next round. --- Wylvane's current main account. |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/28/2009 9:20:26 PM | message detail |
HAHAHAHAHAHA GO POKEMON --- Wylvane's current main account. |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/28/2009 9:20:30 PM | message detail |
Metal Gear dying --- http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/War13104/CenaJFrog.gif hey look i'm war and i'm stupid - WVI |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 9:20:33 PM | message detail |
Yeah, if RBY advances, I'm calling it the favorite over FFX. I don't think FFX gets anywhere near on FF8 what RBY is now. I don't think RBY gets anywhere near on FFVIII what it has now! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 9:20:36 PM | message detail |
yeah, this is Pokemons match to lose --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/scorpion_wb.jpg |
Lopen | Posted 5/28/2009 9:20:42 PM | message detail |
Yep. MGS is done. Hail Pokemon. To the finals! --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/28/2009 9:20:50 PM | message detail |
Yeah at this rate MGS may not even get a lead. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > MGS Points: 219/320 |
MetricTrout | Posted 5/28/2009 9:20:52 PM | message detail |
MGS is not going to ever take the lead at this rate. This match is over. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/28/2009 9:20:54 PM | message detail |
Now that the MGS Early Vote has died off, Pokemon is guaranteed to win! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 9:21:28 PM | message detail |
Well this has suddenly gone from great to possibly in contention for the worst match ever let's see how GameFAQs decides this --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
transience | Posted 5/28/2009 9:21:30 PM | message detail |
I've
gotta go FFX if only because SSBM is there. that's three Nintendo games
and I've got a limit as to how much credit I'm willing to give Pokemon
for being independent. but yeah, FF8 doesn't inspire hope. nor did FFX's round 2. --- xyzzy http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/_src/sc569/HNI_0022.jpg |