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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 731

red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 3:26:45 PM | message detail
I wonder what happened to FFVII the first 2 round though. Did people just say, "FFVII always wins," and vote for their favorite among the other games knowing that FFVII had first locked up?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 3:27:15 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #151
I wonder what happened to FFVII the first 2 round though. Did people just say, "FFVII always wins," and vote for their favorite among the other games knowing that FFVII had first locked up?


likely!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 3:28:00 PM | message detail
Laugh it up stinkers
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/28/2009 3:29:24 PM | message detail
Sooo Bacon wants more pics for the next matches. Better whip up something!

*30 seconds later of google image searching*

http://th01.deviantart.com/fs14/300W/f/2007/008/b/7/Be_Happy___Sora_by_Deepsies.jpg

Pretty sure that's official art. You guys are lucky I'm not Zen (sorry Zen, but this is so up your alley)!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 3:29:56 PM | message detail
I didn't realize Deviant Art was a source of official art.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 3:29:57 PM | message detail
uhh the pic itself says deviant art
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/28/2009 3:33:31 PM | message detail
Hmm. I know I saw it somewhere else.

http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&safe=off&sa=1&q=kingdom+hearts+1+art&btnG=Search+Images&aq=f&oq=

First image...that apparently doesn't work when you click on it. But I think it's official art, so if I was dedicated enough to go and find a way to get it, Sora would look slightly more stupid than usual.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 3:33:45 PM | message detail
So seeing as how Zelda has been great in the ASV this contest, and FF7 now has a CT calibur asv...

Think we could have a massive 2000-2500 vote comeback by OoT in the final match? That would be an epic final match
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 3:34:14 PM | message detail
I have never seen that pic of Sora before, and it doesn't look like Nomura's work at all. That's not official.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 3:35:19 PM | message detail
http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-02/art/kh-sora-atlantica.jpg
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 5/28/2009 3:35:29 PM | message detail
Oh, and Squall's only 5'8" by the way.

Can't believe I didn't notice that sooner!


You sure? Most places seem to list his height as 177cm(5' 10") although I did see a few places say 173cm(5' 8").
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 3:35:30 PM | message detail
Probably not. SM64's going to end up swinging about 1400 votes with the ASV from 300 down. FFVII and OOT will be playing with higher percentages, but it's way harder to cut from 2000 down than from 300 down. FFVII's day vote has gotten a lot worse, but this is also partially CT's day vote getting better.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 3:36:13 PM | message detail
You sure? Most places seem to list his height as 177cm(5' 10") although I did see a few places say 173cm(5' 8").

I'm thinking the instruction booklet listed him as 5'8", so...
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 5/28/2009 3:37:27 PM | message detail
Think we could have a massive 2000-2500 vote comeback by OoT in the final match? That would be an epic final match

Sure this could happen, but when the ASV begins OoT will already be to far behind.
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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 3:47:54 PM | message detail
this entire contest's worth depends on the quality of the OOT/FF7 match. FF7/OOT should have two massive vote swings - OOT crushing FF7 early, FF7destroying it overnight, OOT showing its might in the day.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 3:49:21 PM | message detail
Even though I like 4ways, I REALLY REALLY hope Bacon does a 1v1 for those 2. He did final final match of the goty, so why not?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 3:57:00 PM | message detail
I still think he'd feel silly about proclaiming FFVII as the contest champion while Ocarina is kicking its butt 1v1. It would kinda make the whole format look silly.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 3:58:04 PM | message detail
I personally don't think he cares. He only does the contest out of obligation anyway
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/28/2009 3:58:27 PM | message detail
Bacon declared a Tetris piece the champion while a Mario block was whipping it. <_<;
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 3:58:30 PM | message detail
I still think he'd feel silly about proclaiming FFVII as the contest champion while Ocarina is kicking its butt 1v1. It would kinda make the whole format look silly.

No, that's what he fears more than anything. It's not that he feels silly. He's scared.

Scaredy-cat!
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 3:59:07 PM | message detail
It'd be very good motivation for him to switch to 1v1 for next year. Speaking of which.....

CT vs. SM64 1v1, who do you take?
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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 3:59:34 PM | message detail
Mario 64 by more.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 3:59:36 PM | message detail
sm64
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 4:00:04 PM | message detail
lead over 1k
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 4:00:05 PM | message detail
Mario 64.

Do Mario 3 and Mario World beat CT as well?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 4:00:47 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #175
Mario 64.

Do Mario 3 and Mario World beat CT as well?


Easily. I can see them all doing 55% in 1v1 at least
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Chamek | Posted 5/28/2009 4:00:51 PM | message detail
Do Mario 3 and Mario World beat CT as well?

I vote yes.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 4:01:04 PM | message detail
Mario 64 vs. Melee: Who you got?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 4:01:18 PM | message detail
Bacon declared a Tetris piece the champion while a Mario block was whipping it. <_<;

Everyone knew the 2007 CB was a big joke at that point. He should have thrown Mr. T and Iron Chef Kenichi in there just to really drive the point home.
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paulg235 | Posted 5/28/2009 4:01:38 PM | message detail
Melee
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 4:02:04 PM | message detail
So the consensus is now that Goldeneye hurts SM64 more than FFVII hurts CT? Not that I disagree necessarily, but it's a pretty big shift from how this topic has thought for weeks.
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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 4:02:27 PM | message detail
time for a new top 10

1. FF7
2. OOT (these change depending on the day)
3. LTTP
4. Melee
5. Brawl
6. Mario 3
7. Mario World
8. Mario 64
9. Pokemon RBY
10. MGS4 (what)
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 4:02:37 PM | message detail
I always thought that, personally, so seeing Mario 64 beat CT anyway basically confirms that Mario 64 wins in a neutral setting, too.
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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 4:02:59 PM | message detail
So the consensus is now that Goldeneye hurts SM64 more than FFVII hurts CT?

I've always thought this. I think I even said it in my writeup.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 4:02:59 PM | message detail
Iron Chef Kenichi? I'd vote for Iron Chef Kenichi over......everyone but my top 5 characters, probably.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 4:03:14 PM | message detail
MGS4 > FFX? risky pick there!
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/28/2009 4:03:24 PM | message detail
For weeks people thought Mario 3 was going to SFF-bury Mario World. So either A) it didn't happen, or B) Mario World was hyper-rSFFed and is going to beat FFVII in the semis.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 4:03:50 PM | message detail
The top four seem solid (VII/OoT are interchangeable at this point), but I have a hard time seeing Brawl take out something like Mario 3. It's just... too new.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 4:04:14 PM | message detail
Too new vs. too old: Which is better?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/28/2009 4:05:27 PM | message detail
What do you mean too old? Like, Pong old, or SMB3 old?

If it's the latter, then that. The older a legendary game gets, the more nostalgia it will receive and the stronger it will actually be.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/28/2009 4:05:50 PM | message detail
I don't think I'd drop Chrono Trigger out of the top 10 yet.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 4:05:54 PM | message detail
I still don't see Melee beating SMB3, and by extension the other Mario games. I've been a big proponent of Melee for a long time, but.....new Nintendo has looked bad, while old Nintendo has looked good. As much as I would like to draw the line between New Nintendo and Old Nintendo at January 1st, 2002, it probably falls before that, at the launch of the Gamecube.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 4:05:57 PM | message detail
In this case, I'll take too old.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 4:06:41 PM | message detail
I don't think I'd drop Chrono Trigger out of the top 10 yet.

It may still be in the top 10, but it's like #8 at best.
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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 4:07:28 PM | message detail
depends on the definition of old and new.

to me, anything pre-1996 is sketchy. I still want to drop LTTP to like 9th place. remember, most voters are between the ages of like 16 and 21. 16 year olds were 4 when FF7 came out, 5 when OOT came out. Mario 3 is probably older than half our voters. of course, Mario 3 is the exception to the rule since it's so timeless and whatnot, but the point stands.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 4:08:42 PM | message detail
16 year olds were 4 when FF7 came out, 5 when OOT came out.

Thanks for putting my age into perspective, old man!
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 4:09:55 PM | message detail
I don't see why you'd would drop CT out of the top 10 based on this match. It's closer to Mario 64 than last round, and no one thought it was a big favorite today or anything- most people seemed to think it'd lose worse than last round.
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transients | Posted 5/28/2009 4:11:24 PM | message detail
I am not most people!

and I was 16 or 17 when FF7 came out. chew on that!
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/28/2009 4:12:01 PM | message detail
most people seemed to think it'd lose worse than last round.

I still don't understand why they thought that.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/28/2009 4:13:06 PM | message detail
and I was 16 or 17 when FF7 came out. chew on that!

Wait, am I one of the youngest here?

I just turned 19 btw.
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