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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 731
paulg235 | Posted 5/28/2009 8:36:09 AM | message detail |
Youll never know how I watched you from the shadows as a child, Youll never know how it feels to get so close and be denied, Its a gold and honey trap I've got for you tonight, Revenge is a kiss this time I wont miss, Now I've got you in my sight... ...With a ChronoEye! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- The Gamer In Me http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=158 |
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/28/2009 8:36:25 AM | message detail |
... --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 12:52:34 PM | message detail |
Predict the finals, let's go. Final Fantasy VII The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Final Fantasy X --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 12:52:58 PM | message detail |
Same as you, Blazer. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/user/2/2784-66688-Pic1JPG-550x.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/28/2009 12:53:47 PM | message detail |
Alright, enough of this 'restraint' crap Time to toss a Master Ball at OoT --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
RockMFR 5 | Posted 5/28/2009 12:53:49 PM | message detail |
Final Fantasy VII The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Super Smash Bros. Melee --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 12:54:22 PM | message detail |
To be fair, KP does have the right to laugh at us since he called us delusional last night. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/user/2/2784-66688-Pic1JPG-550x.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 12:54:38 PM | message detail |
For
the record I did not mind the Persona discussion. It was a bit silly
and trying to find an upset where there was none, but that doesn't mean
we can't talk about it. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/28/2009 12:54:49 PM | message detail |
oh fine mario's got this way to suck (again) ct --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/28/2009 12:56:51 PM | message detail |
I'm
not laughing at anyone. I mostly just think red sox needs to take some
sort of mild depressant during Chrono matches. >____> HEY LOOK match pic isn't up yet. Why am I checking at 4 PM. Yeah I guess I need some of that stuff red sox should be taking as well. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 12:57:52 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #010 But you deserve the right to laugh at me people is my point! And Red sox isn't the only one, I was also high on it last night. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/user/2/2784-66688-Pic1JPG-550x.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 12:58:26 PM | message detail |
To be fair, most of my comments were back before 3:30 AM, when CT winning looked quite possible. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
Mario vs Crono | Posted 5/28/2009 12:58:27 PM | message detail |
I'm
not laughing at anyone. I mostly just think red sox needs to take some
sort of mild depressant during Chrono matches. >____> I thought he was mostly joking around. <_< --- 2002: Mario | 53831 | 50.05% | Crono | 53716 | 49.95% | lead of 115 | 2003: Mario | 66571 | 50.05% | Crono | 66434 | 49.95% | lead of 137 | |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 12:59:34 PM | message detail |
I like Red Sox 777. He is everything a Chrono Trigger Fanboy should be. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/user/2/2784-66688-Pic1JPG-550x.jpg |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 1:00:51 PM | message detail |
He spins for Crono and doesn't afraid of anything. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/28/2009 1:01:06 PM | message detail |
Even the pessimism doesn't work in this match. I quit. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/28/2009 1:01:11 PM | message detail |
If CT can actually fall less with the ASV than FF7 then I guess that's good enough --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 1:01:28 PM | message detail |
Time | CT 1:00 | 50.50% 2:00 | 52.86% 3:00 | 53.61% 4:00 | 52.06% 5:00 | 52.61% 6:00 | 49.00% 7:00 | 44.46% 8:00 | 45.05% 9:00 | 47.76% 10:00 | 49.70% 11:00 | 49.04% 12:00 | 50.31% 13:00 | 52.62% 14:00 | 52.09% 15:00 | 47.97% 16:00 | 44.73% CT narrowly avoids its worst hour of the day. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 1:03:57 PM | message detail |
Mario vs Crono, who's your main btw --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/user/2/2784-66688-Pic1JPG-550x.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 1:04:18 PM | message detail |
Also, the Plan is already off by 50 votes, so here is an edited version: Mario 64's lead 5 PM: 450 6 PM: 650 7 PM: 800 8 PM: 900 9 PM: 850 10 PM: 700 11 PM: 450 Midnight: Negative whatever gives Mario 49.95% --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 1:07:18 PM | message detail |
Hey, Chrono Trigger held on for one update longer than I expected. Good job. And I seriously thought CT might have had a chance after the first hour, but once its huge gains died off, I basically figured it was done. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/28/2009 1:07:48 PM | message detail |
Don't be naming your CT planning shenanigans The Plan. That's reserved for Symphony of the Night and Alucard Kart only! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
Kaxon | Posted 5/28/2009 1:07:53 PM | message detail |
I
don't see Chrono having a chance with no real second night vote... not
unless slowflake shows up and calls the match for Mario. --- I made a living on time trial blowing myself off to cross the finish line at ludicrous speed. -transience |
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/28/2009 1:08:20 PM | message detail |
not unless slowflake shows up and calls the match for Mario. ! --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 1:08:27 PM | message detail |
And man, FFVII, what in the world happened to your ASV? 37% updates... --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 1:09:26 PM | message detail |
Yeah, I wasn't trying to copy that, but couldn't think of a better name. At least I called it "the Plan" and not "The Plan." --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
The Mana Sword | Posted 5/28/2009 1:09:46 PM | message detail |
FF7
is getting old. School-age kids aren't that familiar with it anymore.
The game came out 12 years ago. Plus it's up again FREAKIN' MARIO and
all that. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 1:10:23 PM | message detail |
The generation that played FFVII as kids graduated from high school. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
Mario vs Crono | Posted 5/28/2009 1:10:26 PM | message detail |
Mario vs Crono, who's your main btw I'm am alt with over 2000 Karma? <_< Out of interest, who did you think I was an alt of? --- 2002: Mario | 53831 | 50.05% | Crono | 53716 | 49.95% | lead of 115 | 2003: Mario | 66571 | 50.05% | Crono | 66434 | 49.95% | lead of 137 | |
Piazza | Posted 5/28/2009 1:10:58 PM | message detail |
So...I'll
probably be on the bottom of the leaderboard after today (assuming SM64
hold on, which it will), but I have SM64 advancing after FFVII instead
of LttP. Any chance of that happening? I was banking on the newer
Nintendo game appealing to the younger audience, but Zelda tends to do
so well in this Im guessing Im wrong. --- People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~ Rogers Hornsby |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 1:11:05 PM | message detail |
to make up for FF7s diminished asv though, its night vote is still massive --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/user/2/2784-66688-Pic1JPG-550x.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/28/2009 1:11:36 PM | message detail |
From: Mario vs Crono | #029 Well I never see you post outside of Crono matches, so I assumed it was an alt. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/user/2/2784-66688-Pic1JPG-550x.jpg |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 1:14:16 PM | message detail |
Man, this ASV is going entirely to Mario 64. CT and FFVII are both falling, but GE isn't picking up anything. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
Mario vs Crono | Posted 5/28/2009 1:17:14 PM | message detail |
Well I never see you post outside of Crono matches, so I assumed it was an alt. Ah, I see. I usually prefer to just lurk but I love the Mario vs Crono series of matches so I tend to participate during those. --- 2002: Mario | 53831 | 50.05% | Crono | 53716 | 49.95% | lead of 115 | 2003: Mario | 66571 | 50.05% | Crono | 66434 | 49.95% | lead of 137 | |
hochiminhX | Posted 5/28/2009 1:23:19 PM | message detail |
The generation that played FFVII as kids graduated from high school. Exactly --- I will bury you. |
transients | Posted 5/28/2009 1:33:11 PM | message detail |
Mario Cheated > Mario vs Crono lol CT day vote --- xyzzy |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 1:34:18 PM | message detail |
I see what you did there, haiku man! (Yes, lol is one syllable.) --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
transients | Posted 5/28/2009 1:39:44 PM | message detail |
whoa. well played. --- xyzzy |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2009 1:48:59 PM | message detail |
So,
what's the most CT could overturn from 10:00 onward? I think SM64 would
be safe even if it stalled from here until 10:00 (lead of 446 as of
4:45 PM) and SM64 should be able to build a few more hours instead of
stall...but I don't really trust you CT-fans to let nature take its
course! --- BT > Harrich lol me |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 1:50:02 PM | message detail |
CT's done. Forget about it. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 1:52:17 PM | message detail |
Mario
64's SNV is pretty awful- it's not like FFVII where its SNV is (well,
was, I guess nowadays its the dead zone) its best time of day. Let's
see.... Peach swung 1700 votes on Jill in 5 hours with the ASV, starting from 1400 down, and Jill was able to almost come back at the end, presumably without rallying or anything like that. ....Yeah, Mario 64 is completely safe, but if you want to set a max for what CT could pull, we may as well go with what Mario did in Mario/Crono II- so about 800 votes in the last 2 hours. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 1:53:54 PM | message detail |
Can't wait to see what picture gets chosen. Tonight's is the biggest match of the contest so far, easy. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/28/2009 1:54:33 PM | message detail |
Hopefully we can get a good match out of it, too. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 1:55:01 PM | message detail |
I think FFVIII is going to win pretty easily. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
ZFS | Posted 5/28/2009 1:57:00 PM | message detail |
41.5% FFVII unstoppable --- http://i41.tinypic.com/30djz83.gif |
deadeyedllv | Posted 5/28/2009 1:57:42 PM | message detail |
Since
Starcraft was a complete flop, I'm gonna have to give my vote to
Pokemon to increase the chances of FFX beating Melee later on. Even if
Pokemon somehow makes it (it won't) I still think Melee is the favorite
next round. --- You can't run away from trouble, there ain't no place that far. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/28/2009 1:59:15 PM | message detail |
I'd
like to see that, but this match doesn't give me much confidence. Mario
and GE are putting up a much lower combined total than I would have
figured, and FFVII/CT aren't hurting each other nearly as much as I
thought. Tonight, FFVIII and MGS are in Mario/GE's shoes, Ocarina is
FFVII, and Pokemon is CT, which came a lot closer to winning than I
thought plausible. --- Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! |
goku z | Posted 5/28/2009 2:01:09 PM | message detail |
FFX has no chance against Melee. In fact, FFVIII and X will finish within a few % of each other in that poll. --- Being kind is more important than being right. |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/28/2009 2:01:15 PM | message detail |
The difference, I think, is that Pokemon only got 44ish on MGS last round, while CT put up 48% on Mario 64. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/28/2009 2:04:01 PM | message detail |
Oh, hey, half-way point of R3: FACT or FICTION: SMB3 > SMW > SM64 > SMB1. FACT or FICTION: Tetris > FF2/4. FACT or FICTION: LoZ:LttP will reach the championship. FACT or FICTION: Super Metroid would 60-40 Metroid Prime. --- BT > Harrich lol me |