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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 727

UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/25/2009 10:07:44 PM | message detail
yoblazer, I haven't laughed that hard in awhile. Kudos.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:07:52 PM | message detail
That's only if you believe that 100% of FF1's votes would have gone to FFIV. And FFIV should end up closer to SMW than FF1 + FFIV combined got last round, no problems.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 5/25/2009 10:08:15 PM | message detail
Now I'm wondering: Will Super Mario 64 be able to eliminate Chrono Trigger? Or will Goldeneye hurt it enough to prevent that?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 10:09:02 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Tetris | Mega Man 2 | Mario 1 | Zelda 1 | Demographic
EBV | 17.33% | 13.28% | 37.06% | 32.33% | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 16.44% | 14.44% | 36.86% | 32.26% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 17.71% | 14.51% | 35.89% | 31.89% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 18.01% | 12.82% | 36.77% | 32.40% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 15.28% | 13.15% | 36.47% | 35.10% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 14.04% | 13.73% | 35.98% | 36.26% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 14.28% | 13.97% | 34.79% | 36.96% | (22:00-24:00)

Great board vote and Power Hour for Mario 1. It didn't really fall off too badly anywhere else, but it wasn't quite up to the level of that first hour. Zelda had a great day vote, but it was mostly at the expense of Tetris, who once again has a great night vote and awful day vote. Mega Man 2 was a night vote game, but it doesn't drop off as hard as Tetris.

Yesterday's stats:

Super Mario Bros. – 50.00%
The Legend of Zelda – 48.76%
Tetris – 30.23%
Mega Man 2 – 27.48%

Division Stats

Super Mario Bros. – 50.00%
The Legend of Zelda (Round 3) – 48.76%
The Legend of Zelda (Round 2) – 45.28%
Tetris (Round 2) – 30.35%
Tetris (Round 3) – 30.23%
Mega Man 2 – 27.48%
Pac-Man (Round 1) – 23.87%
Metroid (Round 1) – 21.11%
The Oregon Trail – 20.71%
Pac-Man (Round 2) – 17.56%
Pong – 17.51%
Metroid (Round 2) – 16.83%
Donkey Kong (Round 1) – 16.38%
Contra – 15.55%
Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!! – 15.17%
Ninja Gaiden (Round 1) – 15.14%
Donkey Kong (Round 2) – 14.53%
Duck Hunt – 13.07%
Ninja Gaiden (Round 2) – 11.92%
Dragon Warrior III – 9.75%
Space Invaders – 8.44%
Galaga – 8.16%
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Meeks54 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:09:21 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #244
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4859/mariozeldaquarters2.jpg

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Legend of Zelda>Super Mario World confirmed with that pic. Since SM 64>the other Mario's for strength (IMO)

Still, LOL.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/25/2009 10:09:57 PM | message detail
MWC finding that picture funny officially makes me bury all bad blood there. The guy has a pulse after all.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 5/25/2009 10:10:13 PM | message detail
I'm going to go ahead and say that both Mario games are leeching the hell out of Sonic...but then I see the incredible gap they have in front of FF2 and I have to wonder.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 10:10:45 PM | message detail
Sonic 1 isn't far off what it got on Mario 3 last round, so I think the effect would be minimal at best.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 10:11:04 PM | message detail
Mario 3's lead finally breaks 200.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/25/2009 10:11:16 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy IV is practically Nintendo due to the DS port. You could say the same for all old-school Square titles, perhaps.

I have 175 points in my bracket and 227 for predictions.

Tetris kept about 46.75% of its votes from last round and about 30.56% of its votes from the round before.
Mega Man 2 kept about 50.45% of its votes from last round and about 40.13% of its votes from the round before.
Super Mario Bros. kept about 82.47% of its votes from last round and about 53.53% of its votes from the round before.
The Legend of Zelda kept about 94.85% of its votes from last round and about 57.07% of its votes from the round before.

Tetris and Mega Man 2 showed that they fold to anything with a name, as happened here. Meanwhile Super Mario Bros. kept most of its votes from last round, but The Legend of Zelda was practically a rock, explaining how it was able to get closer to Mario than before. Everybody seems to have done badly as far as keeping their votes in round 1, which could be explained by all of these 8-bit games relying on name value to a great extent. I wonder what will happen to Mario 1 and Zelda 1 in round 4?
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:11:49 PM | message detail
Hey PartOfYourWorld, think you can find the Tanooki Suit Mario picture, either the Full Racoon form or the Statue form and use it for SMB3's pic?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/25/2009 10:11:57 PM | message detail
Thanks for letting me keep the Mermaid reference.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/25/2009 10:13:10 PM | message detail

From: PegasusLover123 | #261
Hey PartOfYourWorld, think you can find the Tanooki Suit Mario picture, either the Full Racoon form or the Statue form and use it for SMB3's pic?


I... have no talent at that stuff, unfortunately. I resorted to stealing earlier match pics just to make those jokes, and even that took me over 15 minutes or so.
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Meeks54 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:14:54 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #263
I... have no talent at that stuff, unfortunately. I resorted to stealing earlier match pics just to make those jokes, and even that took me over 15 minutes or so.




I believe that gives you the exact same credentials as the people who keep getting their pics picked.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:16:15 PM | message detail
Let's do our weekly/daily/whatever ritual of ranking the top 10:

1. Ocarina of Time
2. Final Fantasy VII
3. A Link to the Past
4. Super Mario 64
5. Chrono Trigger
6. Super Mario Bros. 3
7. Super Mario World
8. Super Smash Bros. Melee
9. Final Fantasy X
10. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/25/2009 10:17:44 PM | message detail
Super mario 64, the strongest Mario game?

meeeh.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 10:18:09 PM | message detail
It's called Chrono Trigger damage control! Come on, you should be used to this by now!
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transience | Posted 5/25/2009 10:19:15 PM | message detail
1. OOT
2. FF7
3. ..Mario 64
4. LTTP
5. Melee
6. Mario 3
7. Brawl
8. Chrono Trigger
9. Pokemon RBY
10. Mario World
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/25/2009 10:19:37 PM | message detail
Mario 64 the strongest?



Really now?
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Meeks54 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:21:21 PM | message detail
1 Ocarina of Time

2 Final Fantasy VII
3 Super Mario 64
4 Chrono Trigger (think I am not looking forward to their match?)
5 A Link to the Past

6 Super Mario Bros. 3
7 Super Mario World
8/9 Super Smash Bros Brawl/Super Smash Bros Melee
10 Final Fantasy X.

RBY is #11, but if it kills MGS and FF VIII with OoT there like I think it is about to, there is no telling how high it goes.


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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/25/2009 10:21:38 PM | message detail
Mario 64 being the strongest Mario game isn't that strange, if World can bury this much distance from 2004 to get close to the former holder of the title(and there were a lot of people who figured World and 64 were about equal in 2004 theoretically)

Though I don't think the difference between 3/World/64 is all that pronounced after seeing today
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 10:21:45 PM | message detail
The Mario 64 bug's bit tranny, too! It's like when he called RBY #3 5 minutes into the match last round!

...I just don't know if I buy Mario 64 that high. I don't know if it beats Chrono Trigger straight up one-on-one. Yes, you can say Mario 64 was actually the one being hindered, but I don't know if that's true. Mario 64 may have been benefiting from YI rather than being hindered by it. If you added a more neutral entry, Mario 64 would drop the most as a result of it, maybe even to the point of losing to CT.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:21:56 PM | message detail
I haven't actually put SM64 above SMB3 all this time since the SM64/CT match. But if SMW can get this close to 3- why can't 64 be stronger than it? Basically, the common sense argument (SMB3 is clearly above all other Mario games) is not working.

But yeah, if SMB3 widens the gap overnight a lot, my list may look rather different tomorrow (I rather doubt I'd actually take SMW over Melee after sitting on it for some time).
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/25/2009 10:22:05 PM | message detail
People are really overhyping Mario 64 here. Just because it beat a game that had plenty of reason to fall in the last 5 years doesn't mean its now a top 3 game
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 10:22:43 PM | message detail
But if SMW can get this close to 3- why can't 64 be stronger than it?

Because World > Mario 64, duh!
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transience | Posted 5/25/2009 10:23:16 PM | message detail
I'm not really that high on Mario 64. I'm just low on LTTP and nothing else even looks close to being #3-worthy.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 10:24:06 PM | message detail
So Mario 64 is just a filler? Hmm...
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/25/2009 10:24:28 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy IV is practically Nintendo due to the DS port. You could say the same for all old-school Square titles, perhaps.

Why would the DS port result in it having more overlap than THE ACTUAL GAME BEING ON THE ****ING SNES.

GOSH
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transience | Posted 5/25/2009 10:25:10 PM | message detail
I thought about leaving #3 blank out of protest.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/25/2009 10:25:12 PM | message detail
1. OoT
2. FFVII
3. LttP
4. Melee
5. SMB3
6. SMW
7. SM64
8. CT
9. Pokemon
10. Brawl

Who knows. I can see Melee being further down, and I can see any of those three Marios beating LttP. Those three have torn it up, but to LttP's credit, it hasn't had a chance to show us its muscle yet. Beating FFVI tomorrow would be one hell of a statement.
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Meeks54 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:26:20 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #275
But if SMW can get this close to 3- why can't 64 be stronger than it?

Because World > Mario 64, duh!




No, I never bought this and never will. Today's match seals SM 64 as the strongest game for me, and to be honest, I don't really see it being that close anymore. I think World is the best Mario game, but I can't see it being stronger than SM 64 on this site, so if World is going dead equal with SMB 3 right now, SM 64 is the strongest Mario game by extension, because it would absolutely put down the game that is currently giving 3 fits. Don't let what OoT did to it confuse you, Mario 64 is stronger than World, always has been. SMB 3 has fallen to around World's level, and SM 64 is now king
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 10:26:24 PM | message detail
I'm not sure if LTTP winning tomorrow would be more on its strength or FFVI's weakness. It'd be good for it though.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/25/2009 10:28:06 PM | message detail
I still don't think this match is over, by the way. I expect Mario World to take the day, so if it can keep its older bro from building too much of a lead here...
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/25/2009 10:31:25 PM | message detail
I'd give 600-700 tops for SMB3 to get before it becomes unreachable for SMW.
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hochiminhX | Posted 5/25/2009 10:32:03 PM | message detail
I told you all FF4 wouldn't place today. I also told you that SMB3 wouldn't SFF SMW and that it would be almost equal. Only an idiot would think otherwise.


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MetricTrout | Posted 5/25/2009 10:32:38 PM | message detail
1. OoT
2. FF7
3. LttP
4. SM64
5. SMB3
6. SMW
7. Brawl
8. Melee
9. CT
10. FFX
11. Pokemon RBY

3-8 are all very close, though. Almost equal, actually. Same goes with 9-11.

To be fair, LttP never really had a chance to prove its strength, given the nature of its opponents. It will definitely get that chance tomorrow.

And Pokemon. Due to all of its matches being SFF-fests, we may never get a good read on it from this contest. Unless it advances with OoT next round, in which case I would would feel pretty safe in calling it a Top 10 game.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/25/2009 10:33:32 PM | message detail
If there is one Nintendo game that can resist SFF from OoT, I think it would be Pokemon.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:34:18 PM | message detail
I'm not sure about Melee either. I think it was legitimately the #3 game for a couple of years, admittedly based on the series contest and intuition, but so far this contest it has not impressed. Man, a 1v1 contest could have been so amazing....
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Meeks54 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:35:52 PM | message detail
Red Sox, reading your top 10 and your analysis of why SM 64>SMB 3, and the fact that we seem to like the same games in roughly the same order, and usually agree on most contest predictions....I am beginning to think except me being Yankees and you being well...obvious, that we were twins separated at birth, how old are you?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 10:36:05 PM | message detail
Man, a 1v1 contest could have been so amazing....

It couldn't have been as amazing as this contest because one-on-one is boring and always has been! And this format gives us more close matches and more votes!
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/25/2009 10:36:28 PM | message detail
1. Zelda: Ocarina of Time
2. Final Fantasy VII
3. Zelda: A Link to the Past
4. Super Mario 64
5. Super Mario Bros. 3
6. Chrono Trigger
7. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
8. Super Mario World
9. Super Smash Bros. Melee
10. Final Fantasy X
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/25/2009 10:37:34 PM | message detail
7. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
9. Super Smash Bros. Melee


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Meeks54 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:39:16 PM | message detail
So, is the strongest non Nintendo/Square game MGS or RE 4? And where exactly do they fit in, are they honestly even top 15? Is this thing that lopsided?


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transience | Posted 5/25/2009 10:39:57 PM | message detail
Mario 3 not so strong anymore

can't believe it's struggling with Mario World now. I want to give credit to World but this should never happen.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 10:40:24 PM | message detail
The strongest is between MGS1, MGS4, and RE4. At least one of them is top 15, I'd imagine.
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MetricTrout | Posted 5/25/2009 10:41:18 PM | message detail
Hey, if it was any other Nintendo game other than Pokemon, it would have no chance of advancing with OoT. But Pokemon has a very dedicated, independent fanbase, which is why it has just as just as much of a shot as those other two games.

Pokemon/MGS/FF8 will be a great match. All 3 games have almost an equal shot at advancing.
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hochiminhX | Posted 5/25/2009 10:41:58 PM | message detail
can't believe it's struggling with Mario World now. I want to give credit to World but this should never happen.


Why? But what measure of logic did you earnestly believe that SMB3 would SFF SMW? I tried to tell you all this last round. The Mario fanbase is split between the two. Always has been. Always will be.
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MetricTrout | Posted 5/25/2009 10:42:33 PM | message detail
So, is the strongest non Nintendo/Square game MGS or RE 4? And where exactly do they fit in, are they honestly even top 15? Is this thing that lopsided?

Goldeneye > RE4 > MGS4 > MGS
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/25/2009 10:43:26 PM | message detail
Keep in mind that MGS/FFVIII should also split. There's no way the PS1's #2 and 3 games don't have some overlap.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:43:29 PM | message detail
Red Sox, reading your top 10 and your analysis of why SM 64>SMB 3, and the fact that we seem to like the same games in roughly the same order, and usually agree on most contest predictions....I am beginning to think except me being Yankees and you being well...obvious, that we were twins separated at birth, how old are you?

19, and yeah, we apparently have very similar tastes.
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