GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 727
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 9:40:50 PM | message detail |
Eh, Mario 1 will be a virtual non-factor. And I'm not even sure console matters here. Again, you're talking about three games with a 95%+ play rate in Mario 1, Mario 3, and Mario World, and Zelda 1's not THAT far behind. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
transience | Posted 5/25/2009 9:41:06 PM | message detail |
Mario
World strikes me as having a better night vote. Mario 3 should rebound
and win the day... I think. I don't think World gets the lead overnight
though, more like a stall. --- xyzzy "Actually, fire didn't make Sephiroth awesome. Sephiroth made fire awesome." -Karma Hunter |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/25/2009 9:41:22 PM | message detail |
Unobviously
related games may hurt each other, but they don't affect each other's
trends more than say.....the Luxembourg ASV does. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/25/2009 9:41:25 PM | message detail |
****, I have SMB3 in the finals and everything. I just gotta hope that SMB3 dominates World in the day vote. --- Wylvane's current main account. |
RPGuy96 | Posted 5/25/2009 9:41:55 PM | message detail |
What Leon said. Can we please stop looking for LFF in places it doesn't exist? (For example, when anybody brings up STF) --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 9:42:46 PM | message detail |
Why?
Its obvious they hurt eachother. People don't only play one genre after
all. But just how much does it hurt is the question. Well, yeah, adding any game is going to hurt another by sheer virtue of the fact that it's going to get votes, but the idea that FFIV hurts Mario World disproportionately more than Mario 3, I don't see the basis for this other than the fact that they're two SNES games. Remember we came up with all these possible scenarios for RE4/KHII/TP/HL2 about how the games would affect each other? They didn't at all. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/25/2009 9:43:18 PM | message detail |
From: transience | #202 Heh, it feels like the opposite for me. SMW should be more relevant with kids I'd think. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/gelupeh/axel_post_top2.png |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/25/2009 9:43:38 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 5/26/2009 12:39:19 AM | #196 Three SNES era games against one NES game. That means a lot when 1% matters. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/25/2009 9:43:57 PM | message detail |
How about we invent a new one: Games Made Before Sony Arrived on the Scene Play by Different Rules Factor --- This sig is currently owned by Meeks54 for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 9:43:57 PM | message detail |
These games both got GBA ports that sold well, so I don't think either one is more "relevant" than the other. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
RPGuy96 | Posted 5/25/2009 9:44:03 PM | message detail |
As far as playership rates: # Mario 3 94.30% 11/1/05 # Mario 1 93.54% 2/15/07 Zelda 1 76.29% 2/14/07 Nothing on Mario World, I'm afraid, but it should be up there with the other big Mario titles. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 9:44:38 PM | message detail |
Three SNES era games against one NES game. That means a lot when 1% matters. I don't think it means a lot in this case. It's Mario 3 vs. Mario World, for cryin' out loud. Heck, how many people played FFIV when it was ON the SNES anyway? --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 9:45:17 PM | message detail |
And Mario 3 is practically right there in the SNES era anyway. What, 1 or 2 years behind? --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/25/2009 9:45:58 PM | message detail |
I did. I loved it! Speaking of FF4, lost in this match is how awesome the FF4 crap ending is. The whole hype train for FF4 was some of the worst pre-contest chattering class nonsense I've read in years. Kerrigan > Vincent bandwagon is the only thing I can remember making less sense. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/25/2009 9:46:07 PM | message detail |
SMW
used to more relevant with kids, maybe. Now it's a 19-year-old game
against an 18-year-old game. In 2004, even, there was a difference
looking at the CT matches, but I'd imagine most people who started
gaming with the SNES have graduated high school by now. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
creativename | Posted 5/25/2009 9:46:55 PM | message detail |
Oh god, I just saw the Kobe/Lebron muppet commercial. "Lebron, you gotta be HUNGRY! om nom nom nom" --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 9:47:29 PM | message detail |
You watching SportsCenter, creative? That one's my favorite one of the three. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Lucid Faia | Posted 5/25/2009 9:48:53 PM | message detail |
"Is it possible to stop something that's UNSTOPPABLE?" SMW would be winning if it weren't for FF2, btw. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes 2005-2008 Big Ten Champions! |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/25/2009 9:49:05 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #212 I did, and it's what got me into RPGs. Then FF7 came out, jRPGs started going in a crappier direction, and eventually I found wRPGs and learned how to truly have fun in a RPG. --- Wylvane's current main account. |
creativename | Posted 5/25/2009 9:49:21 PM | message detail |
Yeah I'm watching SportsCenter. What Leon said. Can we please stop looking for LFF in places it doesn't exist? (For example, when anybody brings up STF) What's STF? --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/25/2009 9:49:44 PM | message detail |
At least I hope we can all agree now that SMB3 isn't the overwhelming favorite among Mario fans. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/gelupeh/axel_post_top2.png |
Yesmar | Posted 5/25/2009 9:49:52 PM | message detail |
I
would imagine that a plurality of GameFAQS goers grew up with a PS/N64,
as opposed to more growing up with an SNES/Genesis in '04. Not sure
what that has to do with this match, but I would put this down more to
SMB3 dropping since '04, than vice versa. --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 9:49:54 PM | message detail |
"Sore Thumb Factor." The idea that a game does better because it stands out the most. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/25/2009 9:50:38 PM | message detail |
Sore
Thumb Factor. Essentially, it's used when we believe there will be LFF
but are unable to articulate precisely why there will be. That's just
as legitimate as any other analysis based on feelings and intuition
though! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/25/2009 9:51:03 PM | message detail |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTRzaG_GbVQ --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
creativename | Posted 5/25/2009 9:51:35 PM | message detail |
The
whole hype train for FF4 was some of the worst pre-contest chattering
class nonsense I've read in years. Kerrigan > Vincent bandwagon is
the only thing I can remember making less sense. Oh get freakin' real - this is garbage. The hell are you saying this for? We couldn't have known Square LFF was going to be present while Nintendo LFF wasn't to a noticeable extent. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/25/2009 9:51:45 PM | message detail |
Out of curiosity, what is this FF4 hype train keep mentioning? I thought it was just some joke people kept stating to be funny, but apparently its a hype train? --- Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire. |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/25/2009 9:52:05 PM | message detail |
Two
games that are pretty close right now, with the loser being involved
with two other SNES games and then next round the current winner being
involved with two other NES games, one of which is actually strong and
has a strong chance of advancing and the other being even more related
to it than the game it's tying? SMB3 hasn't lost yet by a longshot, but I'm starting to doubt that it's the favorite anymore next round. --- Wylvane's current main account. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/25/2009 9:52:39 PM | message detail |
From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #227 Many people thought FF4 would be able to advance to 4th or 5th round due to all the SFF --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/gelupeh/axel_post_top2.png |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/25/2009 9:53:32 PM | message detail |
Right now, I have really NO idea what is going to happen next round. All I can safely say is that SMB1 won't advance. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/gelupeh/axel_post_top2.png |
creativename | Posted 5/25/2009 9:54:19 PM | message detail |
Right
now Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy X are the only non-Nintendo/FF7
games that are reasonable contenders for the top 10 (where "Nintendo"
really only means Mario/Zelda). I'm not sure either is actually top 10. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/25/2009 9:54:32 PM | message detail |
Assuming
it wins this match, SMB3 should still be the favorite over SMW, in 1v1
or next round. These games are so universal and the times so long ago
that the NES/SNES distinction is not really meaningful. Besides, Zelda 1 won the day vote against Mario 1 and 3, indicating it's favored by the younger generations! Mario World is so screwed! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
L33t_Rappa_Sam | Posted 5/25/2009 9:55:08 PM | message detail |
This
match just reinforces the fact that SFF/LFF/Anal Sex Fanbase Factor
doesn't mean **** when the other games are ****ing weak. Put SMB1, 2,
and 3 in the same match with, say, River City Ransom, or even Mega Man
2, and we'd still have all three Marios on top. --- Wylvane's current main account. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/25/2009 9:56:09 PM | message detail |
Guys, I've finally tried my hand at creating match pics. Please tell me what you think http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2126/mariozeldaquarters.jpg --- This sig is currently owned by Meeks54 for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo |
MetricTrout | Posted 5/25/2009 9:56:23 PM | message detail |
Yeah, SMB3/SMW/Zelda 1 could advance in any order. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/25/2009 9:57:12 PM | message detail |
Too much open space on the right side. Fill it up with something. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/25/2009 9:57:18 PM | message detail |
These games are so universal and the times so long ago that the NES/SNES distinction is not really meaningful. I agree. I don't think the system matters here. Heck, you can't even use Sonic 1 hurting Mario World more because it came out neither on the NES or the SNES! Sonic 1 came out in between them. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Yesmar | Posted 5/25/2009 9:57:50 PM | message detail |
Besides,
Zelda 1 won the day vote against Mario 1 and 3, indicating it's favored
by the younger generations! Mario World is so screwed! No it didn't! All those matches happened on weekends/holidays, and the Mario game won the morning vote in each one. By that logic, Crono won the day vote against Mario in '03. --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
Meeks54 | Posted 5/25/2009 9:58:20 PM | message detail |
Yo, I honestly can't remember. Did we just bet one line on the sig? If we did cool I guess. If not, that second part was the main part for me, I thought the taking of the final line of Part of Your World and using the Be and C as rhyming counterparts was quite creative. --- DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK??? |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/25/2009 9:58:31 PM | message detail |
Not
too bad there, although id rather see a Tanooki Mario picture for SMB3,
whether its the raccoon form or the statue form as that was one of the
"almost" unique power ups of SMB3. --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
creativename | Posted 5/25/2009 9:59:18 PM | message detail |
where "Nintendo" really only means Mario/Zelda) Course add "Smash" to that, for some reason in my head I label it as "Mario" since it has Bros. in the name. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/25/2009 9:59:54 PM | message detail |
This
match isn't very surprising. Strength has always been more important
than LFF in deciding polls, and LFF that can bridge a 60/40 gap is very
very rare. Also, the analysis last round that gave FFIV 40% on SMW
indirectly was generous to FFIV- in actuality, it wouldn't have
received 100% of FFI's votes- a very high percentage, yes, but not
100%. After this power hour wears off and SMW sinks with the night
vote, this match should look very reasonable. If that doesn't happen and SMW holds up overnight and then beats 3 with the day.....well, that would be surprising, but we'll need to deal with it only if it happens. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/25/2009 10:00:10 PM | message detail |
Sonic came out against World. They were in an eternal death match like Popeye and Bluto. --- Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/25/2009 10:01:02 PM | message detail |
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4859/mariozeldaquarters2.jpg ? --- This sig is currently owned by Meeks54 for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:02:00 PM | message detail |
All those matches happened on weekends/holidays, and the Mario game won the morning vote in each one. Zelda did much better with the morning than the overnight in all of those matches. It did even better with the afternoon and second night vote, but that counts as winning the day vote to me- it gained percentage starting from morning through the rest of the day. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
MetricTrout | Posted 5/25/2009 10:02:02 PM | message detail |
This
match isn't very surprising. Strength has always been more important
than LFF in deciding polls, and LFF that can bridge a 60/40 gap is very
very rare. Kirby says, "Hiiiiiii!" --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/25/2009 10:02:21 PM | message detail |
From: Meeks54 | #239 I'd love to use it all, but I can't fit the whole thing in. It's up to you to structure it how you like, but you'll have to cut or alter something. --- This sig is currently owned by Meeks54 for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/25/2009 10:02:24 PM | message detail |
Hmm...SMB has too much of an advantage. It's the only one with sprites, so it would get a big Sore Thumb Factor boost. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/25/2009 10:06:06 PM | message detail |
Well instead of burying a 40/60 disadvantage it decided to do another 3-4% worse. --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
Meeks54 | Posted 5/25/2009 10:06:58 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #247 Meeks54's sig for a stupid pick that had no chance. I even had it coming in first. MWC>Yo Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be.....LIKE MWC!!! That should fit, I am getting 151 characters on my GameFOX right now. 9 under the limit. --- DO YOU REALIZE THAT JACK BAUER JUST KILLED 3 MEN WHILE HANDCUFFED, BAREHANDED, DISEASED, DRUGGED AFTER HAVING A NEEDLE STUCK IN HIS NECK??? |
