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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 726

LeonhartFour | Posted 5/24/2009 12:31:25 PM | message detail
It gained like 4% over night last round, and fell 1% during the day.

It gained 4% because its first hour is bad. Other than the first hour, it's balanced. That doesn't mean every time period is exactly the same, but Fallout 3 doesn't shift much after that first hour.
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Cavalier Lowen | Posted 5/24/2009 12:39:25 PM | message detail
Really? You lost to an obscure Mario game that was being drained upon? CT has no strength here anymore.

You heard it here first. Super Mario 64=obscure.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/24/2009 1:20:11 PM | message detail
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1558/r3twilightprincess.png

I think the font seems off.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/24/2009 1:22:31 PM | message detail
Pictures that emphasize generic baddies are generally bad news, in my opinion.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/24/2009 1:34:04 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #104
Pictures that emphasize generic baddies are generally bad news, in my opinion.


Imperial soldier is hardly generic ... !
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/24/2009 2:52:40 PM | message detail
Anyone think Mega Man 2 will upset Tetris due to Tetris getting SFF more by SMB and LoZ?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/24/2009 2:53:48 PM | message detail
SEeing as they are both gonna be about 10% likely, anything is possible with 3rd place finisher.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/24/2009 3:10:15 PM | message detail
I think generic baddies CAN work if they're regulars to the series. For enemies in just one game though, hmmm.....

For what it's worth, I think it looks pretty good. It feels a little inconsistent with the logos' alignment, but I don't know what would necessarily be best due to where the people are and working in angles like that.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/24/2009 3:12:09 PM | message detail
Imperial Soldier is about the best you can get for an Oblivion pic, though. Its really the face of the game and there were internet memes about that imperial soldier calling you criminal scum
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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/24/2009 3:28:16 PM | message detail
Chrono Trigger: Really? You lost to an obscure Mario game that was being drained upon? CT has no strength here anymore.

...really? Do you consider Ocarina of Time an obscure Zelda game as well?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/24/2009 4:03:39 PM | message detail
WOW @ THAT UPDATE

It was even less exciting than the one before it!
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BDawg | Posted 5/24/2009 4:03:44 PM | message detail
I've heard good things about this Mario fellow despite his massive obscurity.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/24/2009 4:04:33 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #111
WOW @ THAT UPDATE

It was even less exciting than the one before it!


...uh?
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/24/2009 4:05:44 PM | message detail
Haha, I enjoyed it.

Does anybody take MGS4 > MGS1?
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/24/2009 4:23:34 PM | message detail
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/2007-2009.png

Yes? No?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/24/2009 4:24:28 PM | message detail
I like it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/24/2009 4:32:16 PM | message detail
needs more vault boy
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Janus5000 | Posted 5/24/2009 4:38:36 PM | message detail
Man, we needed more games conducive to pictures with bright colors in this division. Brawl stands out more than it should.

...Also, wow, Halo and Portal have had pretty much the longest stall ever this match. Not that it matters at all.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/24/2009 4:43:14 PM | message detail
Needs more of this guy. With the pic being Falloutboy approved, victory is guaranteed. :P

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YXXNsZoPOqk/SRd_fi3uaAI/AAAAAAAABEE/OsKSH2nlAeg/S220/pipboy2.jpg
Majin Lou | Posted 5/24/2009 4:46:19 PM | message detail
From: ZenOfThunder | Posted: 5/24/2009 7:23:34 PM | #115
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/2007-2009.png

Yes? No?


Wow, Brawl stands the **** out.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/24/2009 4:47:55 PM | message detail
Rips off my Goldeneye pic like crazy (which was, in turn, ripped off of someone elses'), but other than that, good. >_>

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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/24/2009 4:48:44 PM | message detail
Brawl needs to have a Snake in the pic. Young Snake vs. Old Snake for the win! Preferably young Snake in a cardboard box and Old Snake in a drum can.

...Also, wow, Halo and Portal have had pretty much the longest stall ever this match. Not that it matters at all.

Actually, Portal/BioShock was about the same way, so maybe it's just a Portal thing.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/24/2009 4:50:25 PM | message detail
I don't even remember the Goldeneye pic. Lemme go check.

Oh WOW. Sorry. That was blatant.

But I also ripped off another pic, so I guess we ripped off the same thing.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/24/2009 4:55:31 PM | message detail
Portal and Halo have been at 2700-2800 since about 8 AM, so its been about 12 hours now

damn
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/24/2009 5:56:32 PM | message detail
So, any chance Tetris blows out MM2 tonight? We've seen Metroid > MM2 and Metroid was devastated by SMB/LoZ...and although LoZ smashed Tetris in 2004, I wonder how much worse it and SMB can really beat it. Tetris does have legit fans, it's just that people generally aren't crazy about the puzzle-genre so it's got a lot of votes it can lose very easily without the entire Tetris-fanbase being SFF'd. If that happens, MM2's going to look even worse than it did in the first two rounds.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/24/2009 5:59:09 PM | message detail
BT > Harrich
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Thats the best BT could do? He could have done something way more embaressing then that...
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/24/2009 5:59:32 PM | message detail
How could it possibly look worse? It can't get fifth place, right?
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/24/2009 6:05:50 PM | message detail
So, any chance Tetris blows out MM2 tonight?

Depends on your definition of a blowout. There really won't be enough percentage to go around for a huge blowout.

Besides, I'd say that Zelda and Mario hurt Tetris to a greater degree than they hurt Mega Man 2.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/24/2009 6:07:20 PM | message detail
When there is that much SFF going around with both MM2 and Tetris having such low percentages, anything is possible. I'd say MM2 "Blowing out" Tetris (like 15% to 10%) is just as likely as Tetris doing the same.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/24/2009 6:07:48 PM | message detail
Drum Can kinda sucks outside of ONE room in the entire game. You know the one, Leon, but it's kind of spoillerific to say what it is.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/24/2009 6:09:21 PM | message detail
Well, yeah.
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MetricTrout | Posted 5/24/2009 6:40:24 PM | message detail
Mega Man 2 and Tetris should hold up fairly well. I think both of them can break 15%.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/24/2009 6:47:31 PM | message detail
Mario World held MM3 to 9%. Mario/Zelda held Metroid, which is likely stronger than MM2 based on what we've seen, to 9%. If MM2 hits 10% tomorrow, I'd call it a good performance. If it manages anything in the low teens, I'd be stunned.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/24/2009 6:49:04 PM | message detail
I'd wager Tetris isn't that much stronger than Metroid, head-to-head. It may not get killed as badly as Metroid did.

And then again, it may get killed even WORSE.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/24/2009 6:51:15 PM | message detail
Tetris stands out a lot; it's so much different than the other three games. I'd expect it to beat up MM2 far worse than it did last round. I think MM2 is going to get Metroid'd.
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MetricTrout | Posted 5/24/2009 7:02:26 PM | message detail
Maybe, but common sense dictates that Mega Man 2 is a good deal stronger than Mega Man 3, and Mario 1 does not quite have the strength that Mario World has.

And you guys are seriously underestimating Tetris here. Tetris should be around as strong as Final Fantasy 2, based off of their performances on Mega Man. Yeah, FF2 scored slightly higher, but MM2 > MM3, and there were 2 other NES games in the poll with MM3, while Tetris had to deal with other icons of gaming in its poll.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/24/2009 7:36:27 PM | message detail
Match XLIX: Tetris vs. Mega Man 2 vs. Super Mario Bros. vs. The Legend of Zelda

Last Round:

Tetris – 39.49%
Mega Man 2 – 32.01%
Pac-Man – 16.08%
Donkey Kong – 12.42%

Super Mario Bros. – 46.19%
The Legend of Zelda – 38.22%
Metroid – 9.35%
Ninja Gaiden – 6.25%

Analysis

You know I could copy last round’s analysis change a few names, subtract a couple of percent each from the winning games and you’d get this match. Out of the round three matches this one is the least hyped as the results for this match have been spoiled from last round. Still this match can be used as a gauge of whether or not round 2 Mario was a fluke or if they are the real things.

Like last round Super Mario Bros. should take first rather easily. Even if the opponents favoured Super Mario Bros. last round and are against it this round when the two bottom games are barely getting a combined total of 20% there’s not going to be much of a change here. The sad thing here is that no matter how well the game does here I don’t see it holding up to big Mario titles and it will likely be crushed next round.

While a setback last round The Legend of Zelda will still take second again. There were only two games in this division with half decent strength and here they are. Sure others wouldn’t be crushed in a non-generation setting, but the only two that could ever hit the top 20 were Super Mario Bros. and The Legend of Zelda. SFF matches always tend to be a bit whacky so it is possible for The Legend of Zelda to do better here compare to last round, but winning is mostly out of the question.

Tetris is in big trouble in this match. As you know games like Tetris fold to games with high name value and it’s up against two games with the biggest name value in the division. The SFF could be so bad that Tetris could lose to Mega Man 2 for third place. Of course Mega Man 2 is going to be SFF just the same and Tetris does have a buffer to work with.

The final Mega Man game will go down in an old fashion low percent match. It has a chance to not be totally embarrassed and defeat Tetris for third, but it has to hope that it suffers more SFF than Mega Man 2 does. Of course working with such small percent anything could happen.

Doing the x-stats is going to hilarious. The third strongest game may not even break 20% on Super Mario Bros. Sure SFF is to blame, but more than half the division will probably be below the fodder line (less than 20% on the champ) if given a neutral match. Well at least the rest of the round has at least something interesting about the match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: The Legend of Zelda > Super Mario Bros.

charmander6000’s Prediction: Super Mario Bros. – 43.18%, The Legend of Zelda – 36.22%, Tetris – 11.35%, Mega Man 2 – 9.25%

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/24/2009 8:11:43 PM | message detail
Zen Analyzes the Match Pic!

Because ripping off KP isn't enough for him!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/shared/bge09/bge09-49.jpg

Remember that story where that guy told his 12 year old neighbor that Sonic was confirmed for Brawl and he responded "who's Sonic?"

I'd love to see that kid with the pic. It'd probably blow his mind that these series used to be so 8-bit. Hell, it'd blow his mind to know that this was what games looked like in the 80s. His mind would also be blown when I shot him in the head for being so ignorant.

Anyway, this is pretty much fair all around. I've seen some people whining that Tetris has an advantage because it stands out so much.

WHAT.

The whole pic is covered in blocks! It blends in too much if anything. If you wanna talk about standing out, then look at the freaking octopus thing.

ADVANTAGE: OCTOROK
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 5/24/2009 8:15:08 PM | message detail
The Octorok looks like a kamehameha to me, though. Man, they really could have used a different enemy (a skeleton, or...Pig Ganon, baby! You know you want it!).
nintendogirl1 | Posted 5/24/2009 8:20:20 PM | message detail
I give advantage SMB actually.

Best looking logo and the one enemy that everyone recognises.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/24/2009 8:40:20 PM | message detail
Pic advantage goes to SMB- everyone recognizes the goomba, the others are not very recognizable.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/24/2009 8:46:09 PM | message detail
Picture sucks IMO. Generic enemies never really work for me and the placement of them doesn't really work.

No hard feelings to whoever made it.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/24/2009 8:47:20 PM | message detail
Having made the pic, there was no way SMB couldn't have the advantage in this kind of theme. Goombas are too well-known, Octorocks don't look like that much anymore, I doubt many gamers around here remember Metools well (though they're the coolest here, period), and it's a Tetris block that's not shaped in an L (squares were the real enemy). I tried to make it pretty even, but...I mean, it's a Goomba. What generic enemy can compete with it besides Koopa Troopas?
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/24/2009 8:47:57 PM | message detail
Hey, no hard feelings!
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eaglesarebeasts | Posted 5/24/2009 8:52:21 PM | message detail
Underestimating Tetris ITT
nintendogirl1 | Posted 5/24/2009 8:52:35 PM | message detail
From: HaRRicH
What generic enemy can compete with it besides Koopa Troopas?

Possibly put Inky, Blinky, Pinky and Claude up there as far as pictures are concerned.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/24/2009 8:52:48 PM | message detail
Why didn't you think of the old Piranha plant Harrich? They're almost as generic as the goombas and koopa troopas.
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MetricTrout | Posted 5/24/2009 8:53:33 PM | message detail
Yeah, the fact that Goombas have looked virtually the same for 24 years gives SMB the pic advantage. That, and the fact that the title blocks for the other 3 games flow into the background or are not very readable at a quick glance, while SMB's title block just jumps out at you. In terms of pic factor I would go SMB > Tetris > Zelda > Mega Man 2.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/24/2009 8:53:56 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2873

I'm not so sure about the ghosts!
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/24/2009 8:55:46 PM | message detail
I almost made where Bowser's bridge is the place where the three warp-tubes were and add the plants in from there, but I wanted to keep it to just one enemy per game.
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