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I give up on trying to come up with a top 10, because every time we do it some other game comes along wantin' to get in!

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1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Zelda: Ocarina of Time
3. Zelda: A Link to the Past
4. Super Mario 64
5. Super Mario Bros. 3
6. Chrono Trigger
7. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
8. Super Smash Bros. Melee
9. Super Mario World
10. Super Mario Bros.

Does that work out?

@Leonhart: I dunno why I think Smash gets repetitive faster than most Nintendo games. One reason is that all of the Smash-specific characters and stages are incredibly generic, or that single player gets repetitive real fast, or maybe because being in the same stages over and over again is boring. I can understand being hooked on to Smash for a few months at a time, but 5 years? What the hell?

I take it that FFVIII is LeonHart's favorite game, no?

I take it that FFVIII is LeonHart's favorite game, no?

Of course, that's why he has such great taste!

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I don't care about his sig, and everyones that matters already knows I'm better than him.

1) You made a topic about my sig. You're playing off your lack of inspiration as being too cool to care.

2) I'm going to be sixteen points ahead of you tomorrow despite today, and that's with you having WoW in the finals. You don't want to go this route.

I'm dropping it from here, don't worry guys.


I just tried to make a Top Ten and...well, I don't think I can; this contest has been great for screwing with us. I think LoZ:OoT > FF7, SMB3 still beats any other Mario game for now (though its days are limited if SMW or SM64 hasn't already dethroned it here), SSBB > SSBM (a shame!), R/B/Y has to be in contention though it's not guaranteed, and I doubt FFX and CT are far apart...wherever the hell they are. Otherwise, man, it's a mess.
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I don't know why Mario 3's days would be limited after 20 years of being the top Mario game.
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I just want to make this clear.

I guarantee you all I will end with the lowest Guru score, and I'm still better than most of you! Yeah!

Give me your hatred, all of it!
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Ed Bellis still got eliminated before you!
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Psh. He won the battle, but I'll win the war!
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That's because INDESTRUCTIBLE !!

It's a matter of changing demographics. For as great of a play-rate as SMB3 has, I think we would see younger people getting behind SM64 or SMW over SMB3 because that was what they grew up with. Plus, SMB3's twenty years old...we've seen how NES games in general have held up, and one day that will catch up to SMB3 enough to be passed. There's no shame in it for SMB3 though -- it's probably still #1 among people who have played all the Mario games to date and grew up with them. It's just that age will eventually make it lose its spot in a popularity contest, and we still haven't seen anything very definitive that old games can generally hold up to new(er) games.
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I'd vote for Mario 3 over any other Mario game, but I wouldn't mind if it lost to Mario 64, Mario World, or even Mario Galaxy or Mario 1. Of course, that just says words about how great the series is.

I know its getting stupid for you guys now, but I felt like bringing this up. According to Official Nintendo Magazines, two Wii games are better than Resident Evil 4, and they both have "Mario" in the title. Uhm...

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How's this?

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KP going for plain pics this year what's going on.

Needs some kind some something to separate the pictures better, just having a flat transition looks bad.
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I really like the connection between them with the levels/areas, nice idea. I'd like to see FF3/6's background to be something a bit brighter or distinct (if possible to keep that connection) and the titles are probably too close together in the middle (try center or outside alignments, maybe?), to critique, but otherwise...cool.
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@KamikazePotato: That's good, but we can do better. Boss fights perhaps (especially considering how all four games excel in that area, especially Super Metroid)?

Oh yeah, and should I pick up Phoenix Wright sometime down the line? Should I get all the games or what?

From: KamikazePotato | #161
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How's this?

Leagues ahead of the other 2 round 3 pics so far.


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I went with the dreary background for FFVI because it's a huge theme of the game, and both LoZs have bright and happy covered nicely. I'll try and make the transitions between each pic not as jarring, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to.

And yes, get Phoenix Wright. All of them. In order.

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What about using Narshe for FF6? A pic of Terra and her cronies firing a heat beam would look pretty badass, and would do more for FF6 than Terra's nonexistent TJF in the current pic. :p

I'm really looking forward to tomorrows match. We didn't see how strong Fallout 3 really is in that first round match, but seeing it against a game it was up against in the Goty poll will let us see if it really has kept its strength or not.
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From: KamikazePotato | #161
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A bit generic. LttP's in particular needs more stuff; for example, show Link standing in front of his house or something. Actually, all of these pic except Link's Awakening's need to show more in the background.
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Understandable, and I like how that at least works in diagonals -- the LoZs have the colors while SM/FF3 have the darker sides. It'll be fine either way.

So now that we're almost to R3, which division final are you guys looking forward to the most? I'll go with 95-97 for personal faves and 01-03 for having a fun chance of seeing a huge shake-up in the rest of the bracket. If D2 can outlast an LFF'd FFX somehow, we could have a good chance of seeing FF8 in the championship...which would be nuts (and make Leon's life complete).
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"So now that we're almost to R3, which division final are you guys looking forward to the most? I'll go with 95-97 for personal faves and 01-03 for having a fun chance of seeing a huge shake-up in the rest of the bracket. If D2 can outlast an LFF'd FFX somehow, we could have a good chance of seeing FF8 in the championship...which would be nuts (and make Leon's life complete)."

For me, it's a tossup between 95-97 and 98-00. I DESPERATELY want to see FF8 advance, but I also want to see SM64 kick ass (and maybe sear another crushing defeat into Red Sox's mind. :P). Those two divisions are the best in the contest, IMO.

Also, speaking of Leon, it's time for the Stars and Turds of the round, right? We only have one match left, after all.

I'll do one better I'll rank them

95-97
98-00
01-03
89-91
92-94
07-09
04-06
72-88
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Also, speaking of Leon, it's time for the Stars and Turds of the round, right? We only have one match left, after all.

I and others will be doing them tomorrow.
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Time | GTAIV
1:00 | 49.59%
2:00 | 53.61%
3:00 | 52.30%
4:00 | 51.34%
5:00 | 56.84%
6:00 | 53.84%
7:00 | 53.40%
8:00 | 54.55%
9:00 | 51.46%
10:00 | 50.11%
11:00 | 51.71%
12:00 | 53.28%
13:00 | 53.32%
14:00 | 53.35%
15:00 | 55.77%

Besides the first hour GTAIV has won every hour against SMG.
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My ranking of all the Round 3 matches!


8. Final Fantasy X vs Kingdom Hearts vs Super Smash Bros Melee vs Diablo II

This match is shaping up to be a real snoozefest. SSBM > FFX, by a comfortable margin. I cannot fathom anything else happening.


7. Super Smash Bros. Brawl vs Call of Duty 4 vs Metal Gear Solid 4 vs something

See above, only replace FFX with MGS4. Yawn.


6. Tetris vs Mega Man 2 vs Super Mario Bros. vs The Legend of Zelda

This is ranked above the other two matches because Tetris at least has a small chance of advancing. Probably not, though.


5. Metal Gear Solid 3 vs The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion vs The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess vs Resident Evil 4

Much like above, Twilight Princess > RE4 is the heavy favorite here. I would rank MGS3's chances of advancing as slightly better than Tetris'.


4. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past vs Super Metroid vs Final Fantasy III vs The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening

Well, we already know which 2 games are advancing. The question is in what order. Can FF3 take advantage of a heavy Nintendo split? It is almost a 50/50 chance, as either game has a good argument for taking first.


3. Super Mario Bros. 3 vs Sonic the Hedgehog vs Super Mario World vs Final Fantasy II

This match is interesting simply because SMB3 vs SMW is one of the most debated video game questions of all time. Everything we know from past contests and polls suggests that SMB3 is a good deal stronger, but the demographics of the site has shifted away from the NES in recent years. Has SMW narrowed the gap, or perhaps even taken the lead? The other game to watch is FF2, and whether it can take advantage of the split despite looking horribly weak for 2 rounds.


2. Metal Gear Solid vs Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow vs The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time vs Final Fantasy VIII

Ocarina takes first. That is all we know, as the other 3 games almost have a equal chance of advancing. The most interesting wildcard is Pokemon RBY, the best selling game of all time. It may be stronger than its opponents, but it also has Ocarina draining votes from it. Does it get hurt by OoT, or is Pokemon a largely independent fanbase. The other two games in the match, MGS and FF8 are of nearly equal strength and are largely independent fanbases. And it will be interesting to see how much OoT will drop when facing stronger competition.


1. Final Fantasy VII vs Goldeneye 007 vs Super Mario 64 vs Chrono Trigger

This match has potential to become a real dud. The reason it is #1 is because it also has potential to become the best, most defining match in this contest. All of that hinges on SM64's performance. SM64 was the heavy underdog going into last match, and it is the heavy underdog going into this one. Yet, its performance in getting a 3000 vote victory over CT despite being limited by another Mario game suggests some serious strength. The question is, can it do the same against FF7 with it possibly splitting against CT? If it does, it will cement its position as the most talked about match this contest.

The other game to watch is Goldeneye, to see how much it will hurt SM64. A FF7 > CT upset is just as likely as SM64 > FF7. But no matter what happens, this match is the real litmus test for FF7. It is the toughest challenge FF7 will face until the finals and will determine whether FF7 is still the unstoppable force it was in 2004.
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and it is the heavy underdog going into this one.

What world do you live in.
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I wouldn't call it the underdog, but I'd say it is no lock. SM64 has the weight of another game from its system dragging it down, and CT has a pretty independent fanbase, I believe. It's a question of how good CT can hold to its fans (If they're all like Sox, it's going to advance no matter what. :P), and how much SM64 can SFF Goldeneye into oblivion.

Am I missing something about the 1995-1997 final hype? Results other than FF7 > Mario 64 seem pretty damn unlikely
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I think he means against FF7.

This match is shaping up to be a real snoozefest. SSBM > FFX, by a comfortable margin. I cannot fathom anything else happening.

I'd give Diablo an outside shot.
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Oops, yeah, I meant against FF7.
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I think we would see younger people getting behind SM64 or SMW over SMB3 because that was what they grew up with.

It's not like Mario World is much younger than Mario 3, you know. Sure, next system, but what, two years?
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If D2 can outlast an LFF'd FFX somehow, we could have a good chance of seeing FF8 in the championship...which would be nuts (and make Leon's life complete).

I don't want FFVIII to make the finals if it means FFX blows it against Diablo! It's not worth it! Let FFVIII beat FFX like a man!
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From: LeonhartFour | #181
I think we would see younger people getting behind SM64 or SMW over SMB3 because that was what they grew up with.

It's not like Mario World is much younger than Mario 3, you know. Sure, next system, but what, two years?

If we can say CT is old square and FF7 is new square, then I don't see SMB3 and SMW being that different of a situation
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There's a bigger transition from CT to FFVII than there is from Mario 3 to Mario World, and that much should be obvious.
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CT - 2D RPG
FF7 - 3D RPG

The difference is a lot more then just prettier graphics. SMW/SMB3 have much, much more in common with each other then SM64.
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Am I missing something about the 1995-1997 final hype? Results other than FF7 > Mario 64 seem pretty damn unlikely

64/GE has more overlap than VII/CT. CT has a chance, it's just not the favourite anymore.
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64/GE has more overlap than VII/CT.

Says who?
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GoldenEye/OoT certainly had more SFF than FFVII/CT did.

Of course, overlap is a different story, but I still really wouldn't disagree. Who owned an N64 and didn't play both of those games?
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SMB3 and SMW are each old-Nintendo if we're going that route, and I don't personally like the idea of SMW > SMB3 here much (even though it's true). If/when SMB3 is dethroned as the top Mario-game, it'll probably be by SM64 -- where new-Nintendo would begin.
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Yeah, the 3D transition is more important than it looks like. Ask Sonic if you don't believe it. I'd say SMW is Old Ninty to SM64's New Ninty (I still think those labels are stupid, though. To me, New Ninty is everything post Gamecube, just like New Square is everything past FFX).

Nah, the break from 2-D to 3-D is where the old and the new separate. I don't know what other transition you could make.

Of course, I don't know when Mario 64 will be considered Old and Mario 3 and Mario World will be considered older Nintendo, but that day will come someday!
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There's a bigger transition from CT to FFVII than there is from Mario 3 to Mario World, and that much should be obvious.

CT - 2D RPG
FF7 - 3D RPG

The difference is a lot more then just prettier graphics.

(Two different quotes there)

Disagree that this is particularly relevant. Being 3D is not a factor when it comes to RPGs. I don't think there's going to be some manner of fanbase rift simply because one game has a cast that looks like lego men.

Now, I could be sold on "they're from different series" or "the gap from PS to SNES is bigger than the gap from SNES to NES-- but the 3Dness isn't an issue.
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I think FFVII began a whole new generation of RPG fans, and so that would separate it from games that came before it, to be honest. FFVII basically made RPGs a mainstream genre.
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FFVII basically made RPGs a mainstream genre.

no, Super Mario RPG did. It was the first million seller rpg in america
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"Nah, the break from 2-D to 3-D is where the old and the new separate. I don't know what other transition you could make.

Of course, I don't know when Mario 64 will be considered Old and Mario 3 and Mario World will be considered older Nintendo, but that day will come someday!"

Well, see, as I see it, a company's New and Old is separated by the end of their golden age. Nintendo's true dominance ended after the N64, while Square fell down after FFX (Or Kingdom Hearts, whichever came later). It's not the traditional way of separating games or characters, but it makes as much sense as 3D (that is, a good amount).

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FFVII absolutely pushed JRPGs into the mainstream. It's still the highest selling 'traditional' (not including Pokemon) JRPG in the U.S.

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FFVII may have been the biggest push, but SMRPG was the first one.
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Being the absolute biggest doesn't mean it didn't have any precursers who started the push to make it mainstream.
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SMBB winning over COD4 and GTA4........pathetic...

FFVII was pretty much the push for the genre outside of Japan. That doesn't mean it was the first popular RPG -- SMRPG wasn't either, for that matter -- but when we're talking about the game that pushed RPGs into the mainstream, that's definitely FFVII.

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