GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 725
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/22/2009 9:02:02 PM | message detail |
HAMMER OF JUSTICE! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
LinkLegend27 | Posted 5/22/2009 9:02:27 PM | message detail |
LEBRON JAMES?! --- Fortes in Unitate. I ain't conceited only positive and way better |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/22/2009 9:03:54 PM | message detail |
That guy is a ****ing freak of nature. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/22/2009 9:21:23 PM | message detail |
Tag I suppose. Needs moar Brawl in opening post. --- The Straight Up G The Palace of Wisdom Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
Mr3790 | Posted 5/22/2009 9:30:42 PM | message detail |
Cool, brawl>cod4 --- AC:WW Code: Name:Mr.378 Town:Darkcity FC: 4210-5769-8462 GENO WHIRL! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 9:33:48 PM | message detail |
LeBron Believe > Master Chief Believe --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/22/2009 10:17:40 PM | message detail |
Melee>Brawl --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 10:19:47 PM | message detail |
Yesterday's stats: Time | RE4 | KHII | LOZ: TP | Half-Life 2 | Demographic EBV | 30.19% | 22.55% | 27.60% | 19.66% | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 29.15% | 24.42% | 28.16% | 18.27% | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 27.64% | 25.77% | 27.06% | 19.54% | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 26.97% | 25.35% | 28.92% | 18.76% | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 27.68% | 24.92% | 28.91% | 18.48% | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 25.72% | 27.88% | 29.12% | 17.28% | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 25.77% | 29.56% | 27.51% | 17.16% | (22:00-24:00) TP with a good Power Hour, slight drop off from the night vote, and then a gradual rise until the second night vote. Great board vote and Power Hour for RE4, but a notable night vote drop off, getting even worse in the morning. Not so great in the ASV either. KHII with a bad board vote, but for some reason, it gets the night vote here. And look, a 3% jump with the ASV and nearly 30% with the second night vote. Whoo, KH! Half-Life 2 had a good board vote and night vote, not so good ASV though. Yesterday's stats: Twilight Princess – 50.00% Resident Evil 4 – 48.68% Kingdom Hearts II – 47.99% Half-Life 2 – 39.06% Lower Half Stats Twilight Princess – 50.00% Resident Evil 4 – 48.68% Kingdom Hearts II (Round 1) – 48.28% Kingdom Hearts II (Round 2) – 47.99% Half-Life 2 (Round 1) – 39.80% Half-Life 2 (Round 2) – 39.06% Final Fantasy XII – 37.68% Shadow of the Colossus – 34.01% Gears of War – 28.12% Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – 22.57% --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/22/2009 10:19:57 PM | message detail |
I
think Brawl fixed many issues from Melee, and overall its more fun to
play (not that Melee isn't fun to play in comparison anymore). The only
things in Melee's favor for me are nostalgia and the fact that SSBM
showcased the GCN's technical capabilities well whereas SSBB doesn't do
so for the Wii. Currently I have 155 points in my bracket but 195 for predictions. If today's trends keep up I have 159 points in my bracket and 203 for predictions. Two new honorable mentions rose up today as far as vote totals go. Zelda: Twilight Princess now holds the lowest vote total out of every 1st place entrant, and Kingdom Hearts II holds the highest total out of every game eliminated this round. Another note to make is that Half-Life 2 managed a higher vote total than Super Metroid, making it look like it could have advanced to round 3 if put in the top half of division 3, or even in Link's Awakening's shoes. Resident Evil 4 kept about 72.45% of its votes from last round. Kingdom Hearts II kept about 71.66% of its votes from last round. Zelda: Twilight Princess kept about 68.36% of its votes from last round. Half-Life 2 kept about 66.29% of its votes from last round. Everybody was in about the same general range, as far as things go. Half-Life 2 seems like it lost out some mature votes to Resident Evil 4, and at the same time something happened to Twilight Princess. Was the game just the casual choice for this round (and last round as well)? I dunno. |
BDawg | Posted 5/22/2009 10:20:17 PM | message detail |
So uhhhh CoD4 or Half Life 2? Because they might end up getting beat down about the same. --- Should I start running now? |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/22/2009 10:20:46 PM | message detail |
Gears of War – 28.12% Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – 22.57% =\ --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/gelupeh/axel_post_top2.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 10:21:37 PM | message detail |
I wouldn't take HL2 to beat Galaxy, so gimme CoD4. Man, that would mean FFXII could beat Galaxy if HL2 could beat CoD4. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/22/2009 10:23:47 PM | message detail |
Very
well then, Brawl. Thou hast faced thy first test and overcome. Now face
that from which thou was made, if thou darest. And if thou shouldst
triumph again....bow down to the King of SFF, or else stand in defiance
once more, and face utter destruction, ever seeking to overthrow it! Next round will be interesting; we'll get a better gauge on Brawl's strength than Call of Duty 4, which only looked impressive because it beat Mario Galaxy. It's possible that is quite weak, and Galaxy even weaker. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/22/2009 10:24:42 PM | message detail |
Call of Duty 4 is legit. Theres only so weak a Mario galaxy with a lower tier Pokemon game in the poll can be --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/gelupeh/axel_post_top2.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 10:25:39 PM | message detail |
Lead change. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
ZFS | Posted 5/22/2009 10:25:57 PM | message detail |
Man, that would mean FFXII could beat Galaxy if HL2 could beat CoD4. contest redeemed --- a metal slime appears |
BDawg | Posted 5/22/2009 10:26:11 PM | message detail |
Brawl is just beating on Galaxy and taking more and more of it's lunch money. --- Should I start running now? |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/22/2009 10:28:04 PM | message detail |
I like how all of our GOTYs have been disappointing except for two of them. |
ffmasterjose | Posted 5/22/2009 10:28:33 PM | message detail |
Gah Galaxy sucks. --- 166/240 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Super Mario Galaxy > CoD4 | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
Dilated Chemist | Posted 5/22/2009 10:28:33 PM | message detail |
And people thought Galaxy stood a chance. --- [ FINAL FOUR ] FFVII / SMB3 / LoZ: OoT / MGS http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=161 |
ffmasterjose | Posted 5/22/2009 10:30:31 PM | message detail |
Aww yeah, STP bashing Galaxy --- 166/240 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Super Mario Galaxy > CoD4 | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/22/2009 10:33:48 PM | message detail |
I think GTA4 is being hurt by CoD4. Its getting 28% currently on SSBB when it got 35% last round. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/gelupeh/axel_post_top2.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 10:38:43 PM | message detail |
GTA
IV/CoD4 LFF as bad as Galaxy/Brawl LFF? Unlikely. GTA IV doing well
last round was a "Nothing else to vote for if I don't want to vote for
Brawl" performance. Yeah, I believe overperformances due to a lack of competition exist. We've seen Nightmare do it twice. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/22/2009 10:40:01 PM | message detail |
Oh I don't think the LFF is anywhere near as bad, just I think CoD4 might be hurting it a bit. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/gelupeh/axel_post_top2.png |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/22/2009 10:40:56 PM | message detail |
heh Gta just cut CoD4 --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/gelupeh/axel_post_top2.png |
syco_coaster | Posted 5/22/2009 10:43:15 PM | message detail |
Poor Galaxy, having all its votes taken like that. And it's my favorite of the bunch. Oh well, match is going as planned. --- Current Score: 180 Today's pick: SSB Brawl > Call of Duty 4 |
transience | Posted 5/22/2009 10:45:34 PM | message detail |
man even the night vote can't stop Brawl. Brawl > Melee looks better with every update. --- xyzzy "Actually, fire didn't make Sephiroth awesome. Sephiroth made fire awesome." -Karma Hunter |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/22/2009 10:46:44 PM | message detail |
I
can buy overperformances due to lack of competition in some cases-
meaning some games are disproportionately (meaning not linearly)
affected by changes in competition strength. It's more or less the flip
side of Last Place Factor. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
transience | Posted 5/22/2009 10:47:32 PM | message detail |
First Place Factor --- yzzyx |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/22/2009 10:48:09 PM | message detail |
...whoa --- I've been waiting for this moment all my life - it's my destiny. http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
RPGuy96 | Posted 5/22/2009 10:58:05 PM | message detail |
Smash with a bad Power Hour and good night vote. What --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
transience | Posted 5/22/2009 11:01:05 PM | message detail |
damn you Galaxy KH2 vs. Brawl who wins the night vote --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com//chewing.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/22/2009 11:06:18 PM | message detail |
i think we're finally in the night vote now --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/gelupeh/axel_post_top2.png |
Team Rocket Elite | Posted 5/22/2009 11:09:39 PM | message detail |
14
people fell off the Top 50 today. MicFiend13, xcamel24, PieMan244,
Mistah_T_1337, pinoy_boi, oscarr311, King_Gir, Poireau, Bleak5,
theawesomestevr, Agumen, revo_gamer275, crown_unit and stncldrwg did
not have LoZ:TP > RE4 as yesterday's winners. 10 people scored half points and survived. Mirrorzzz, JayLabPrime, Tirofog, mentalmike_2000, Petter_S, Gaddswell, Megamanz777, Some_Character, Tendo128 and SingToMe14 also did not have LoZ:TP > RE4 as yesterday's winners. 1 person scored quarter points and lived. swrdof1000trths had something vaguely similar to LoZ:TP > RE4 as yesterday's winners. --- Shall I take you with me? To the place in this town where wishes come true... |
creativename | Posted 5/22/2009 11:11:03 PM | message detail |
LEBRON JAMES?! Let's not forget the MJ of Turkey in all this! He was actually playing terrific defense on Lebron on that shot too. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/22/2009 11:12:01 PM | message detail |
So... Melee vs. Brawl, who ya got? --- In-de-structable. Nothing's gonna stop me now. http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/22/2009 11:14:32 PM | message detail |
Super Smash Bros. Melee If Brawl goes 60/40 against Twilight Princess, I might sing a different tune, but right now I still give Melee the edge. --- Yoblazer: http://i42.tinypic.com/avk9ie.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Applekidjosh | Posted 5/22/2009 11:14:41 PM | message detail |
From: KleenexTissue50 | #036 gut says brawl now, but that just sounds absolutely crazy to my brain --- I seem to have prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, and now I have a bit of a mess on my hands |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/22/2009 11:15:38 PM | message detail |
And while we're at it... Wind Waker vs. Galaxy Though I think I know which way this one goes. --- In-de-structable. Nothing's gonna stop me now. http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/22/2009 11:16:35 PM | message detail |
Zeruda --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
Applekidjosh | Posted 5/22/2009 11:16:38 PM | message detail |
From: KleenexTissue50 | #039 wait is this a battle of which game we're less disgusted with --- I seem to have prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, and now I have a bit of a mess on my hands |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/22/2009 11:17:58 PM | message detail |
Seriously, this might be the craziest SFF disaster of the contest. I'm not sure if World/MM3 tops this one. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 11:20:58 PM | message detail |
At
least Wind Waker had the decency to avoid getting doubled by Melee.
Galaxy can't even break 30% on Brawl right now. Give me Wind Waker, and
it's not even close. Hey, Metroid Prime vs. Mario Galaxy: Who you got? Which means you gotta ask yourself this question. Vice City vs. Galaxy: Who you got? MGS2 vs. Galaxy: Who you got? Man, most of the games that will be ranked above Galaxy by the end of this, we would have never picked them to beat it. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/22/2009 11:23:13 PM | message detail |
I
guess Galaxy really did have like a... two month period to shine before
the door was completely closed on its face. Such a shame, too. It
deserves so much better. --- Yoblazer: http://i37.tinypic.com/x1d2s9.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/22/2009 11:25:06 PM | message detail |
And
I mentioned this before in the other topic, but now we're starting to
see why SSB did as well on SMB in the Series Contest as it did. Run a rematch right now: How does it go? --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/22/2009 11:27:26 PM | message detail |
Mario probably goes for the mid-60s in a noticeably better performance. Galaxy looked really weak last round as well. This isn't indicative of much; Smash hype is still gone. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/22/2009 11:49:10 PM | message detail |
Oh,
and I just looked at the final results of yesterday's match. Looks like
KH2 finally decided to tear it up, although a little too late. Still,
1200 vote swing is still pretty impressive. --- In-de-structable. Nothing's gonna stop me now. http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/22/2009 11:54:38 PM | message detail |
Wow, this is devastating. BT, what's your sig for me? --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
hochiminhX | Posted 5/22/2009 11:56:45 PM | message detail |
I would take Gunstar Heroes over Super Mario Galaxy at this point --- I will bury you. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/22/2009 11:57:13 PM | message detail |
From: hochiminhX | #049 Well it is the better game after all! --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/gelupeh/axel_post_top2.png |