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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 723

Lopen | Posted 5/22/2009 12:15:08 AM | message detail
Gettin snarky, eh, xp14215? It's not my fault east coast people wrongly call everything after the power hour the night vote.

Go pay attention to some Halo matches, you'll see the true night vote doesn't really start till like 3-4 hours in. Halo is like a daylight meter.
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xp1337 | Posted 5/22/2009 12:17:26 AM | message detail
Yeah, but how many more times are going to divide the voting blocks up? I remember when it used just be Night - Day - Second Night. Now we have the Board Vote, the Power Hour, Night, BSV, DSV, ASV, Second Night...

It's almost getting to the point where we might as well just give every hour it's own block. =/
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/22/2009 12:18:05 AM | message detail
......This is making me exceedingly happy, and wanting to actually play RE4 now.
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hochiminhX | Posted 5/22/2009 12:18:28 AM | message detail
Four-pack of suck time. Who wins?


Twilight Princess
Starcraft
Majora's Mask
Super Mario Galaxy


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xp1337 | Posted 5/22/2009 12:19:22 AM | message detail
And yes, I've been sarcastic this entire time. I know text can't convey it well, but I have nothing but laughter for the idea of a Zelda Night Vote. It's just amusing watching it stay right with RE4.

Yes, Zelda's trend mark a severe drop off from 3 to 5, but it also generally drops before that, just not as badly.
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Lopen | Posted 5/22/2009 12:19:44 AM | message detail
Well, I agree too many distinctions are dumb, but at the same time expecting a night vote game to get cracking right when the power hour is over is also dumb. All it should need to do is stall unless it's up against something like L-Block or Phoenix Wright.
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Lopen | Posted 5/22/2009 12:21:01 AM | message detail
Yeah I know you're not being serious.

I'm also not being serious when I call for 107 vote cuts from KH2 I hope you realize...!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/22/2009 12:21:20 AM | message detail
after power hour is 10 PM West coast time, and second night vote (10PM-12 AM EST) games show night trends. Why would it not show night trends then?
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Gaddswell | Posted 5/22/2009 12:21:41 AM | message detail
Well, there kinda is a distinction within the first night vote.

You've got the block that Crono and Mega Man do well in, and then you've got the dead hours where FF dominates.
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transience | Posted 5/22/2009 12:21:55 AM | message detail
Europe'd

gg KH
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xp1337 | Posted 5/22/2009 12:22:05 AM | message detail
I didn't expect RE4 to just shoot for the heaven the second it hit 1 AM, but I did expect it to do a bit better than only a gain of 75 over the 1 to 3 AM block.

The next two to four hours should be brutal to TP, yes.
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Lopen | Posted 5/22/2009 12:23:08 AM | message detail
Sure, it should so trends. The thing is there are trends towards night and there are expecting something to start moshing because the power hour just ended. It doesn't work like that, there's a transition phase between voting blocks usually.
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Masato_Tanaka | Posted 5/22/2009 12:29:26 AM | message detail
LET'S GO TWILIGHT PRINCESS!
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hochiminhX | Posted 5/22/2009 12:32:14 AM | message detail
^Get out of this topic right now. This is the topic for the elite - we must exemplify good taste. Rooting for TP circumvents our desires.

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Chaotic Mind | Posted 5/22/2009 12:32:50 AM | message detail
Heh, i just figured out why this Zelda isn't completely dying with the night vote. It's Zelda: Twilight Princess, so it's on the border between day and night games!

Man that was lame. I should go to sleep.
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Lopen | Posted 5/22/2009 12:34:42 AM | message detail
Now after the European kiddies have gone to school, Twilight Princess will continue its journey to destruction. Ho ho ho ho.

I will now sleep before being proven wrong by a fluke update SO SCREWED IT IS SO SCREWED.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/22/2009 12:39:20 AM | message detail
Yesterday, WoW had a lead of 135 votes at this time compared to 221 for RE4. WoW lost by nearly 2500.

RE4 needs to get its ass in gear!
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/22/2009 12:46:51 AM | message detail
@Shoenin_Kakashi: I wish I was allowed to play RE4, because if I was I'd own it right now, and I would have probably finished it some time ago. Hopefully it and Half-Life 2 will get ported over to some 8th gen console, and then a 9th gen console.

@Chaotic Mind: Good thing not all of us are serious here. That was some nice humor!

Currently I'm looking to get 4 points in this match in both my bracket and my prediction. If Twilight Princess kicks into gear and steals first place, then I get 2 points in my bracket but full points for my prediction.

Currently I'd have 157 points in my bracket and 191 for predictions.

Tomorrow's match has four absolute masterpieces of this generation, and I will do analysis later. I'm still debating percentages.
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/22/2009 12:48:08 AM | message detail
I have both versions, I just havent played them since im not much of a fan of RE.


Cept Wesker, that man seems totally G.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 5/22/2009 1:03:35 AM | message detail
Heh, i just figured out why this Zelda isn't completely dying with the night vote. It's Zelda: Twilight Princess, so it's on the border between day and night games!

Not a bad theory considering the night votes that Symphony of the Night, Hour of Darkness, Perfect Dark and Shadow of the Colossus have.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/22/2009 1:10:13 AM | message detail
Ah, I've got the percentages. Time to analyze the match.

This is another match where all of the positions are up in the air. Methinks SSBB has itself set up well for first place, but I won't be surprised if it lost to Call of Duty 4 because of the split. As a matter of fact, SSBB should be weaker compared to last round while Super Mario Galaxy really shouldn't have much of a difference (SSBM can't hurt SMG more than Pokemon DP, right?). GTAIV will take a close last place, then. Maybe Mario Galaxy could take 2nd place because SSBB could hurt Call of Duty 4 like SSBM hurt Halo? Nah, SMG was beaten quite handily in round 1; it's just not going to happen.

Best Fighting Game Ever - 30%
Ultimate Sandbox Adventure - 21%
Best Multiplayer of the Generation - 27%
Best Nintendo Game Since Ocarina of Time - 22%

Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Brawl > Call of Duty 4
Bracket: Super Smash Bros. Brawl > Super Mario Galaxy
Favorites: Super Mario Galaxy > Grand Theft Auto IV
Favorites Bracket: Super Mario Galaxy > Grand Theft Auto IV
transience | Posted 5/22/2009 1:21:15 AM | message detail
KH2 vs. RE4:

round 1 at this time: 47.82%
round 2 at this time: 47.09%
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/22/2009 1:22:05 AM | message detail
Yeah, RE4 looked good at first but by the end it doesn't seem like it'll do much better if at all against KH2 than last time
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/22/2009 1:25:47 AM | message detail
If it ends up with a similar relative percentage, you can't really call that a disappointment. Twilight Princess is the disappointment here.
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transience | Posted 5/22/2009 1:28:49 AM | message detail
I don't even think it's disappointing, but I guess others thought higher of it than I did.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/22/2009 1:35:16 AM | message detail
I think many people (myself included) have it beating Brawl later on, and some even considered a legit Top 10. I'd like to think Brawl would be struggling just as much against these guys, but something tells me that wouldn't be the case.
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transience | Posted 5/22/2009 1:37:09 AM | message detail
Brawl's taken a bad rap, but it's mostly due to the Nintendo decline. what I didn't understand pre-contest was that this only affected modern Nintendo games, not old games.

when you just Brawl by the results of TP and Galaxy, it makes a lot more sense.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/22/2009 1:39:05 AM | message detail
Yeah. If anything, old Nintendo games have looked downright fierce. It's as if all the fans fed up present day Nintendo are looking at their past works with watery eyes.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 5/22/2009 1:41:29 AM | message detail

From: transience | #277
the Nintendo decline


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transience | Posted 5/22/2009 1:50:55 AM | message detail
god damn, RE4 is bad at night for some reason.
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Janus5000 | Posted 5/22/2009 2:14:28 AM | message detail
This is merely foreshadowing of the inevitable RE4 day vote. Your hours are numbered, Zelda...!
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/22/2009 2:17:20 AM | message detail
Go RE4


Beat Toilet paper/8.8
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 5/22/2009 2:47:11 AM | message detail
Heh, HL2 managed to cut its last opponent finally. Nice increase for KH there. Might be a bit early still for the morning vote though.
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Gaddswell | Posted 5/22/2009 3:06:14 AM | message detail
Here comes TP with the morning.
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Draco1214 | Posted 5/22/2009 3:36:33 AM | message detail
Is it me, or is RE4 actually gaining more on TP during the morning?
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Draco1214 | Posted 5/22/2009 3:39:12 AM | message detail
...and right after I write that, TP gets a 30 vote cut. Nevermind then.
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transience | Posted 5/22/2009 3:41:06 AM | message detail
Zelda's not that great in the morning. its power is in the afternoon.

still better than RE4 though.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/22/2009 3:53:12 AM | message detail
Well, for my bracket I have SSBB > RE4 in the quarterfinals. My analysis was that according to the list SSBM > RE4 and SSBB > SSBM, so there. I forgot about MGS4, so damn it.

Tomorrow's match has masterpieces, while the match afterwards has the most overhyped game ever and something that would be among the big names if only it were longer.
MetricTrout | Posted 5/22/2009 4:05:25 AM | message detail
Calling it now. Twilight Princess > Kingdom Hearts 2
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paulg235 | Posted 5/22/2009 4:12:33 AM | message detail
I would love the result to be TP>KH2, but TP>RE4 with KH2 coming close is good enough for me (had it in my bracket).
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/22/2009 4:12:54 AM | message detail
Well RE4 sure did nothing with that night vote. Let's go with.....TP > RE4.
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transience | Posted 5/22/2009 4:15:29 AM | message detail
in the last hour, RE4's gone up 4 on KH2.

I feel pretty good about RE4 taking this. TP's got first though, of course.
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paulg235 | Posted 5/22/2009 4:20:14 AM | message detail
Yeah, we saw this in the last round. KH2 wasn't winning enough updates to take 1st and kept getting stalled.
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greatone10 | Posted 5/22/2009 4:22:07 AM | message detail
Wow, my faith in RE4 taking down OoT in the finals has suddenly gone up.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/22/2009 4:23:06 AM | message detail
It's still quite possible RE4 finishes in third place here. Resident Evil has a horrible day vote, and I'm still calling RE4 quasi-Nintendo. If it gets leeched by Twilight Princess too much, KH2 has an outside chance.
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greatone10 | Posted 5/22/2009 4:43:14 AM | message detail
Wasn't the PS2 version of RE4 the most played anyhow? I don't think it overlaps with Nintendo THAT much.
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Mr3790 | Posted 5/22/2009 4:46:55 AM | message detail
Cool, RE4 winning.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 5/22/2009 4:57:46 AM | message detail
It's been said Kingdom hearts is quasi-Nintendo as well, I wouldn't look too much into any significant trend differences between Resi and KH2 today.
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Meeks54 | Posted 5/22/2009 5:39:19 AM | message detail

From: transience | #277
Brawl's taken a bad rap, but it's mostly due to the Nintendo decline. what I didn't understand pre-contest was that this only affected modern Nintendo games, not old games.

when you just Brawl by the results of TP and Galaxy, it makes a lot more sense.




That is because it is a freaking myth. The Nintendo deboost does not exist. That people keep harping on it in this topic now after we have seen every Nintendo game (that was not SFFed) besides Galaxy (SFF irrelevant there, it just sucked) go off like a rocket so far about says it all. There may have been a slight Brawl deboost for for Smash characters that get most of their popularity from Smash (Ness and the like, hence their sucking last year), but Link last year looked stronger than ever, Samus was cutting Mario all night and tore through Ganondorf like he was not there, Ocarina of Time has now twice this contest shown to be strongest game in that round, Super Mario 64 beat Chrono Trigger with another Mario game in the poll, LA embarrassed FF VI, and destroyed MMX, and lest we forget, we are currently looking at the possibility of 3 Nintendo games in the final.

There was only one deboost, and it was not Nintendo, it was Mario. Mario and his kin died. Yoshi was made to look like a **** by Squall, Luigi made Liquid look legit, Bowser lost to GFNW, and of course Mario was nearly beaten by Black Haired Cloud, and then cut by Samus the entire match while Crono killed him.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/22/2009 5:55:05 AM | message detail
Eh? KHII still has a chance, RE4 still as the DSV to increase its lead.
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