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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 723

UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/21/2009 9:05:52 PM | message detail
~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days.

Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples)

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/21/2009 9:06:21 PM | message detail
See? RE4 to the final.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:06:24 PM | message detail
KENNEDY!
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transients | Posted 5/21/2009 9:06:31 PM | message detail
time for an RE4 flop
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/21/2009 9:06:52 PM | message detail
TP should come back. RE4's board vote is decidedly un-REold, and a ton of people are supporting it to go far. It should fall, but it would take an epic collapse for KHII to challenge it.
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ZFS | Posted 5/21/2009 9:06:53 PM | message detail
Time for TP to rebound next update

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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:07:03 PM | message detail
Dunno what I like here. RE4 is doing significantly better wrt to KHII, but KHII could still threaten and TP isn't doing so hot against it.
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Master Moltar | Posted 5/21/2009 9:07:08 PM | message detail
aww no that last minute
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Match 46 - Bracket: TP > RE4 - Vote: RE4 (155/232)
charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:07:09 PM | message detail
KH2 was catching up at the end there.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 151/232
GrapefruitKing | Posted 5/21/2009 9:07:10 PM | message detail
more like RE4 will end up losing to KHII
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Today's prediction: Twilight 30.07% - Riku+Sora yaoi 26.24% - Shoot them in the head! 25.96% - HL2 17.73%
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:07:30 PM | message detail
Zelda's board vote should also be pretty good. Next few updates should tell us a lot.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 5/21/2009 9:07:40 PM | message detail
YOU'RE RIGHT HAND COMES OFF?!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:07:45 PM | message detail
Yeah, don't count KH2 out here yet. Any of the three could still take any placement.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:08:04 PM | message detail
Metal Gear Solid 3 9.79% / 13.19%
TES IV: Oblivion 8.26% / 9.17%

I said 'what'
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The Real Truth | Posted 5/21/2009 9:08:08 PM | message detail
Zelda is shutting down Kingdom Hearts. Lets do this RE4.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/21/2009 9:08:21 PM | message detail
And hey, how about that good start from Gordon? I very much doubt it gets buried now.
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transients | Posted 5/21/2009 9:08:25 PM | message detail
so how about this RE4/Nintendo overlap idea?
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ffmasterjose | Posted 5/21/2009 9:08:35 PM | message detail
WITNESS THE POWER! </Krauser>

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162/232 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest
NP: Resident Evil 4 > Zelda: TP | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/21/2009 9:08:35 PM | message detail
YES! RE4 > TP at the freeze. Come on, I want this result to hold because I could end up getting another double green match for calling this one correctly in my bracket. Of course, with the board vote being TP's best time and TP lost that to RE4, this looks good for RE4 > TP by the end of this match.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:08:44 PM | message detail
9.79% / 13.19%
8.26% / 9.17%

No love for either game.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 151/232
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/21/2009 9:09:15 PM | message detail
I just noticed that KHII cut that last minute. Hmmm...
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ZFS | Posted 5/21/2009 9:09:17 PM | message detail
Good lord what a prediction percentage for MGS3

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TheRye | Posted 5/21/2009 9:09:41 PM | message detail
How does MGS3 only have 23% bracket support at this point... I am stunned
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xp1337 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:09:47 PM | message detail
Of course, with the board vote being TP's best time

Except it isn't. It's the ASV.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/21/2009 9:09:48 PM | message detail

From: transients | #017
so how about this RE4/Nintendo overlap idea?


If RE4 and Zelda stay this far ahead of KHII, it's obviously in the gutter. Or rather... there's more Nintendo/KH overlap, I guess.
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KingBartz | Posted 5/21/2009 9:09:57 PM | message detail
oh wow brackets got screwed on that match.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/21/2009 9:10:20 PM | message detail
TP and KHII closing in.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:10:21 PM | message detail
For reference, 50% more brackets had MGS2 winning its first round matchup than had MGS3 advancing out of this 8-pack.
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ZFS | Posted 5/21/2009 9:10:24 PM | message detail
awww yeah Twilight Princess

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transients | Posted 5/21/2009 9:10:29 PM | message detail
looks like we've got a match for first.

I have a hard time seeing KH2 coming back here, but I'll give it a few updates.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/21/2009 9:10:39 PM | message detail
Nice hold, Mr. Scott!
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Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 5/21/2009 9:10:42 PM | message detail
whoa what the hell was that
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:10:47 PM | message detail
Not looking good for KHII...
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 151/232
GrapefruitKing | Posted 5/21/2009 9:10:53 PM | message detail
Leon iz gun get keyblade'd
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Today's prediction: Twilight 30.07% - Riku+Sora yaoi 26.24% - Shoot them in the head! 25.96% - HL2 17.73%
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Majin Lou | Posted 5/21/2009 9:10:55 PM | message detail
Keep holding on, Leon!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/21/2009 9:11:12 PM | message detail
So...

Resident Evil 4
Twilight Princess
Brawl
Metal Gear Solid 4
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:11:39 PM | message detail
We had Halo and GTA and God of War, three huge bracket favourites. It's not too surprising that MGS3 and Oblivion are so low.

Good update for TP, bad update for KHII. The latter can probably afford to have bad updates in the Power Hour against these two, though.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 5/21/2009 9:11:51 PM | message detail
9.79% / 13.19%
8.26% / 9.17%


o_0

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162/232 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest
NP: Resident Evil 4 > Zelda: TP | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4
transients | Posted 5/21/2009 9:11:51 PM | message detail
MGS4 > RE4, write it in a book
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 5/21/2009 9:11:55 PM | message detail
I have no idea what is going on but this is awesome.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:11:55 PM | message detail
How does MGS3 only have 23% bracket support at this point... I am stunned

Halo 2, GTA: SA and WoW all probably had higher percent.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 151/232
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/21/2009 9:11:56 PM | message detail
Looks like RE4 > TP won't hold :(

Well at least KH2 looks done
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:11:57 PM | message detail
I think I like RE4 to win here. It's going to rise all night, and it has a pretty good day vote too- TP isn't going to make any big comebacks on it with the day.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 9:12:04 PM | message detail
tp > re4
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The Real Truth | Posted 5/21/2009 9:12:13 PM | message detail
MGS4 would have to win that. It's almost all on its own there.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 9:13:16 PM | message detail
So...

Resident Evil 4
Twilight Princess
Brawl
Metal Gear Solid 4


My bracket has RE4 > TP
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls
BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: TP > RE4 Points: 151/232
MegatokyoEd | Posted 5/21/2009 9:14:48 PM | message detail


Resident Evil 4
Twilight Princess
Brawl
Metal Gear Solid 4


I have that happening with RE4 > MGS4.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/21/2009 9:14:55 PM | message detail
MGS4 > RE4
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/21/2009 9:14:55 PM | message detail
I've also got RE4 > TP. I didn't put much faith in Brawl and MGS4. I still don't, especially MGS4.
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MetricTrout | Posted 5/21/2009 9:14:59 PM | message detail
Resident Evil 4
Twilight Princess
Brawl
Metal Gear Solid 4


I am liking Brawl > RE4 at the moment.
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