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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/21/2009 1:50:20 PM | message detail
Im hesitant to call any Halo fodder or borderline fodder.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 1:52:54 PM | message detail
I'm hesitant to not call it fodder.
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Raiden_Will | Posted 5/21/2009 1:53:05 PM | message detail
hehe MgS3 pwns oblivion and WoW

What is right is right :DD

::DD


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Advanced_Koko8 | Posted 5/21/2009 1:53:23 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #298
Probably only 56% against an Xbox WRPG


More like PC/Console WRPG.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/21/2009 1:54:32 PM | message detail
Well that depends on what we define to be fodder, I suppose. But however you define it, Halo is weak. It's like Kefka, people are always amazed by how weak it turns out to be, year after year, with the difference being that once in a while Microsoft hypes it and it gains decent strength for a season.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 1:56:15 PM | message detail
true or false:

If we had a game contest in fall 2007, Halo games would be powerhouses
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ffmasterjose | Posted 5/21/2009 1:59:00 PM | message detail
Well it certainly wouldn't be the case in 2006 when MC lost to Sub-Zero !
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/21/2009 2:00:05 PM | message detail
It was PC-GotY here too and did pretty well in the overall-GotY poll, all things considered...the only bad part was that Gears of War beat it there and in the 360-GotY and we saw Gears bomb, but I don't think that's representative of Oblivion's strength. That was simply Gears bombing hard.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 2:02:51 PM | message detail
Time | Oblivion
1:00 | 49.83%
2:00 | 50.26%
3:00 | 48.38%
4:00 | 47.45%
5:00 | 50.12%
6:00 | 47.49%
7:00 | 49.62%
8:00 | 48.73%
9:00 | 51.58%
10:00 | 53.56%
11:00 | 52.45%
12:00 | 53.56%
13:00 | 52.29%
14:00 | 61.96%*
15:00 | 54.56%
16:00 | 54.86%
17:00 | 56.39%

*hour only had one update
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/21/2009 2:04:45 PM | message detail
I'll go with true on that -- just compare how MC did against Dante from 2007 to 2008 (though DMC4 did come between those contests, but the gap is still huge).
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/21/2009 2:05:49 PM | message detail
I'll say true compared to where they are now, but they still wouldn't hang with the near-elites we've seen.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/21/2009 2:07:46 PM | message detail
If we had a game contest in fall 2007, Halo games would be powerhouses

that year was BELIVE right?


hmm...2 might have. 1 wouldve been a midcarder.
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ZFS | Posted 5/21/2009 2:09:19 PM | message detail
Great job by Oblivion. Wish I had taken it past the second round instead of only the first. Damn you San Andreas

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ZFS | Posted 5/21/2009 2:11:42 PM | message detail
Halo in general thrives when there's deafening hype, which is why Master Chief was so strong in 2007 and then was nothing special in 2008. So yeah, if this were 2007 Halo would probably be a whole lot more impressive than it is today.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 2:14:44 PM | message detail
Oblivion doing so much better at day then MGS3 makes me wonder if Fallout 3 can do the same against MGS4 in a couple of days. Since Fallout is "Oblivion with Guns", afterall.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 2:18:29 PM | message detail
I thought it was expected that Fallout 3 had a half decent ASV, it did pretty well despite Halo 3 being in the same poll.
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transients | Posted 5/21/2009 2:19:34 PM | message detail
so, where's this huge Warcraft rally? this is easily rally-able, and this is supposedly the rally-est game in the contest.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 2:25:23 PM | message detail

From: transients | #317
so, where's this huge Warcraft rally? this is easily rally-able, and this is supposedly the rally-est game in the contest.


Not sure about others, but I don't care to rally. ITs so weak anyway I'd rather not see it embareess itself even further next match
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 2:29:59 PM | message detail
You know despite missing an hour we're heading for about 117k
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/21/2009 2:37:50 PM | message detail
It's 1300 down and falling. Well, I wouldn't expect a rally to get going until 8 or so anyways, when Starcraft's rallies always got started and when the ASV ends. It's really hard to fight against the ASV.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/21/2009 2:40:55 PM | message detail
But by that time, it'll be down like 2000 and would lose more ground naturally with no rallying, so really WoW would have to rally 2500+ votes here in 4 hours in that scenario. Pretty unlikely given that no bandwagon has formed yet.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/21/2009 2:41:12 PM | message detail
Starcraft also had seven hours left when 8:00 hit, not four. WoW would have to rally now and rally hard, or else 4chan will have the biggest impact this contest with rallying...haha.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 2:42:52 PM | message detail
Just to make things clear that Starcraft was rallying all day it's just that it wasn't notable until the vote totals drop.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/21/2009 2:43:17 PM | message detail
You know despite missing an hour we're heading for about 117k

Well, it's possible that a lot of the people who would have normally voted then came back later and voted. We'll see if the ASV has more votes here than usual.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 2:45:05 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #323
Just to make things clear that Starcraft was rallying all day it's just that it wasn't notable until the vote totals drop.


I think thats part of the reason Blizzard games are so much better at night. lower votals so rallying is more noticable.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/21/2009 2:45:54 PM | message detail
WoW would have to rally now and rally hard,

its funny cause thats not really possible at this moment <_<
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 2:49:18 PM | message detail
I think thats part of the reason Blizzard games are so much better at night. lower votals so rallying is more noticable.

I just find it funny that besides Asia Canada really loves Blizzard games.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/21/2009 2:51:23 PM | message detail
WoW isn't naturally strong at the SNV though. It was I believe its worst timeframe in the Hogger match last year and in round 1 this year; very possibly in the Arthas's matches too (remember Ike not doing much at the start of the ASV but then continuing to make big cuts well after 8 PM?).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/21/2009 2:52:01 PM | message detail
Oh, it definitely was the worst time for Arthas. Remember Ike made a furious charge at Arthas with the ASV.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 2:52:32 PM | message detail
Hoggers snv was horrible. Ramza cut almost 300 in the final hour (though we all know that wasn't natural).
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/21/2009 2:53:12 PM | message detail
Yep, Albion finally stopped rallying! <insert relevant emoticon>
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/21/2009 2:55:17 PM | message detail
q=O
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/21/2009 2:56:16 PM | message detail
No, it's a "I don't want to admit my rallying doesn't amount to crap, so I'll just say I don't care to rally!"

Which is just as good.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 2:58:25 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #333
No, it's a "I don't want to admit my rallying doesn't amount to crap, so I'll just say I don't care to rally!"

Which is just as good.


I can admit it doesn't amount to crap against the amount of votes that come in during the asv.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/21/2009 2:58:31 PM | message detail
I find it highly amusing that we had to sit through the "WoW can rally ten thousand votes easy" arguments and it's going to lose by 2000 or so.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/21/2009 3:05:12 PM | message detail
I can admit it doesn't amount to crap against the amount of votes that come in during the asv.


no, they dont do jack period.

Never have, never will.
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transients | Posted 5/21/2009 3:13:42 PM | message detail
holy backpedaling now that Warcraft's been exposed as a fraud

MGS3 - ~56% on Oblivion
MGS2 - ~64% on Morrowind

how do we feel about this?
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 3:17:43 PM | message detail
holy backpedaling now that Warcraft's been exposed as a fraud

We knew that since last round.

MGS3 - ~56% on Oblivion
MGS2 - ~64% on Morrowind

how do we feel about this?


If 2/3 are equal Oblivion wins 59/41

I'd take 3 just barely over 2.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/21/2009 3:22:23 PM | message detail
It doesn't bother me as far as MGS3 > MGS2 goes. The 360's already left more of a legacy here than the Xbox and Oblivion was much better received both here and in general. I'd expect Oblivion to beat Morrowind noticeably worse than 59-41 like MGS2 = MGS3 suggests.
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transients | Posted 5/21/2009 3:25:32 PM | message detail
so does MGS3 beat KH in that round 2 match?
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/21/2009 3:30:50 PM | message detail
Pfft, WoW wasn't exposed as a fraud, Oblivion is just that strong.

Yeah.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/21/2009 3:40:23 PM | message detail
Nah, MGS3 isn't making up that 55-45 match-up, but I think it could become a 53-47 match pretty reasonably and I'm almost certain the SFF falls MGS3's way against MGS2.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/21/2009 3:43:01 PM | message detail
MGS3 - ~56% on Oblivion
MGS2 - ~64% on Morrowind

how do we feel about this?


I'd expect Oblivion to be much stronger than Morrowind, honestly. Though this is speaking from a limited knowledge of the Elder Scrolls, Oblivion was just that much better and just that much more well-received. Getting tripled by FFX isn't that great of a performance by Morrowind. Shenmue did that.

I think MGS3 could've beaten KH there. Don't know if I'd pull the trigger on it, but...
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/21/2009 3:44:27 PM | message detail
Oblivion would 60-40 Morrowind before SFF, at least. The 'RE4 : any other RE game' comaprisan is very applicable there.

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SonicRaptor | Posted 5/21/2009 4:01:14 PM | message detail
Pfft, WoW wasn't exposed as a fraud, Oblivion is just that strong.

Not to mention it makes GTA:SA and GoW seem even worse.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 4:03:57 PM | message detail
Not to mention it makes GTA:SA and GoW seem even worse.

More like Same Console Factor.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/21/2009 4:04:09 PM | message detail
So Symphonia falls to this group, either way it held pretty good despite such competition.

I'm sure Albion is a bit peeved that his rally failed him this time as WoW is quite behind Oblivion.

As for MGS3 here, is this % a good or bad sign for Snake?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/21/2009 4:04:26 PM | message detail
More like Same Country Factor
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/21/2009 4:10:17 PM | message detail
Four awesome pics. Nothing to complain about.

Eh, I'll find something.
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