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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 722

voltch | Posted 5/20/2009 11:58:43 PM | message detail
btw,is MGS3 the strongest of the MGS games or has it's opposition simply been too weak?
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/21/2009 12:01:07 AM | message detail
3 would have done no better than 2 did a couple days ago.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 12:01:40 AM | message detail
3 just was put into a favorable position. Its true colors should be shown next round.
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voltch | Posted 5/21/2009 12:03:03 AM | message detail
hmmm,there really aren't any other series except maybe mario where all the games are so close in strength,the MGS series is so consistent...
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 12:03:36 AM | message detail
GTA might be.
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paulg235 | Posted 5/21/2009 12:11:41 AM | message detail
Man, those 3 are relatively close. Personally, I'm hoping for WOW to make it out of this one for my bracket.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 12:11:57 AM | message detail
nice, a wow tie with MGS3. Go for the cut .. !
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/21/2009 12:21:34 AM | message detail
I have a little link to show you all, another close 3way match won by WoW rallying:

Albion, you're bragging about a character from a game with 11,000,000+ subscribers that featured you spending all day rallying (and getting about 3-5 votes an hour by your own projection) to beat Laharl and Ramza. This contest hasn't shown me that people care much more to help out the game with rallying than a character from it, either. If you have the nerve to take the "Hey, I have this little piece of evidence you might want to see" route...please, as a favor, stuff it. Your projection means you got Hogger 120 votes MAX. Spare us and just let a WoW-match happen instead of giving reason to root against it, please.

Goddamn. I can't wait to see it eliminated, and I enjoyed the little bit I played of it.


Anyway, MGS3 > MGS2, I'm pretty certain of it though I don't know by how much -- probably not a whole lot. I've never seen anything suggesting MGS2 actually beats MGS3 aside from sales, and if sales mattered then WoW and Halo 2 would have eliminated MGS3 in Round One (and we would look for RBY to upset LoZ:OoT next round).
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 12:22:56 AM | message detail
our projection means you got Hogger 120 votes MAX

I said per update. Not per hour.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/21/2009 12:23:15 AM | message detail
Also, despite my little rant, I like MGS3 > WoW. Oblivion just feels like a weird pick to overtake it through-out the day, and ToS looks like it's falling out of contention (good show for it though).
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Prototype
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Janus5000 | Posted 5/21/2009 12:24:34 AM | message detail
dude WoW

if you're going to randomly spike like that at least have the decency to cut MGS3
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/21/2009 12:27:18 AM | message detail
Albion, you're bragging about a character from a game with 11,000,000+ subscribers that featured you spending all day rallying (and getting about 3-5 votes an hour by your own projection) to beat Laharl and Ramza.

To be fair, pretty much every guru was still bashing WoW that day anyways.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/21/2009 12:27:19 AM | message detail
An update? I'm not going to respect your rallying potential that much. Still, my bad on getting what you said wrong, sorry about that.
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Prototype
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 12:27:30 AM | message detail
Plus Harrich, every contest needs a game advancing people hate. Its no fun otherwise (like L Block was public enemy number 1 in 2008)
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Draco1214 | Posted 5/21/2009 12:30:35 AM | message detail
If Tales is somehow still in this by the end, I wonder if this board would pull a CT-style rally for it.

The thought of WoW losing to a rally amuses me immensely.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/21/2009 12:32:33 AM | message detail
Hell I hate ToS and would find that ironic and amusing.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 12:32:44 AM | message detail
The thought of WoW losing to a rally amuses me immensely.

I really need to get to sleep.. I read this as "Arouses me immensely"
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/21/2009 12:33:31 AM | message detail
sleep?

Wuss. What kind of WoW*** are you
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Janus5000 | Posted 5/21/2009 12:34:23 AM | message detail
Tales might be looking at a 1000 vote deficit between it and second by the time morning hits. I don't see it coming back, regardless of what it did to GoW.
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Draco1214 | Posted 5/21/2009 12:34:39 AM | message detail
Hell, if Oblivion or ToS are within 100 votes of WoW at the end of this match, I might consider doing some rallying myself.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 12:36:15 AM | message detail

From: Draco1214 | #170
Hell, if Oblivion or ToS are within 100 votes of WoW at the end of this match, I might consider doing some rallying myself.


You should! The rallying between hogger and ramza at the end of that match was something to watch. Poor Dante suffered in percentage big time though ... !
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/21/2009 12:37:22 AM | message detail
Im still rather in shock about Hogger?

How? and Why Hogger? **** Hogger, I wanted Gamon in.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/21/2009 12:38:13 AM | message detail
As somebody who has gamed as long as I can honestly remember, I don't want to hate a game and whatever success it has. This contest is supposed to be a celebration and test of these games. I'm all for people rallying for their favorites and understand arguments come up, but I don't want to be driven against one of the most popular games of our time, especially by one of its fans. That's all, as both a visitor of these contests since 2002 and a lifelong gamer. **** this "public enemy" idea, I just want to be supportive of the games and community in general.
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Draco1214 | Posted 5/21/2009 12:40:31 AM | message detail
I don't even hate WoW all that much. Oblivion and ToS are just that awesome, both probably in my top 20-25.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 12:40:55 AM | message detail
Wow Harrich, I didn't know there were many people like you. Most people just hate anything on systems they don't have or stuff that has a "public stigma" about them like Halo, WoW, etc. I respect you :)
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 5/21/2009 12:41:33 AM | message detail
Plus Harrich, every contest needs a game advancing people hate. Its no fun otherwise (like L Block was public enemy number 1 in 2008)

I guess it can be considered fun if you enjoy watching other people rage but there's plenty of that as is without having to sacrifice games you like. >_>
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/21/2009 12:52:42 AM | message detail
For the record, I do have a bit of a stigma against Sony, but it goes outside of video games and it didn't happen during the PS1's/PS2's reigns.

I'm glad I have your respect though, thank you (though I understand if the above changed your mind!). I just care a lot about video games and the culture, even if I'm not as deep into it or as up-to-date anymore as I'd like to be sometimes.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/21/2009 1:04:27 AM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0UJaprpxrk

no match will ever be as classic as that
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 5/21/2009 1:19:06 AM | message detail
ToS is behind with 600 votes, it has no chance to advance right? :(
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General_Zimbad | Posted 5/21/2009 1:27:53 AM | message detail
Is MGS4 stronger than MGS3? If so by how much???
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transience | Posted 5/21/2009 1:30:18 AM | message detail
this is a pretty pathetic night vote for Warcraft. barring rallying, I think you have to look at Oblivion as the fave.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 1:33:55 AM | message detail
Wow isn't a night game though. It only looked above average at night last round due to Halo sucking up the night.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 5/21/2009 1:39:46 AM | message detail
I'd take WoW here, it probably has the favorable trends. In a tight spot it'll take it and I don't see Oblivion having the teeth to pull away from it.

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__Smurf__ | Posted 5/21/2009 1:43:10 AM | message detail
Plus if Oblivion bombs here it takes with it any hopes of an Xbox game making the 3rd round. n_n
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/21/2009 1:45:57 AM | message detail
Yeah, WoW only lost half a percent to Halo's day vote. It outperformed MGS3 and Okami in that time period. Those are hardly daytime beasts, but I think WoW has pretty steady trends. Looking at its main opponent's match, the same might be said for Oblivion. This thing could be tight all day, and if it is, give me WoW. Good ol' fashioned rallying and bracket rallying should carry it through.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/21/2009 1:50:27 AM | message detail
SO ALL OF BLIZZARD EXCEPT FOR STARCRAFT MOVES ON TO ROUND 3. AT LEAST STARCRAFT LOST TO A HIGH MIDCARDER.

*listens to music from Diablo*

Time to predict the match, but let's start out with the games. Resident Evil 4 and Half-Life 2 might very well be THE games of the century; they're packed with action that almost never ceases, push technical boundaries, offer new types of gameplay seldom (if ever) seen before. Meanwhile, Zelda: Twilight Princess is the biggest game ever (is that actually true?), and Kingdom Hearts 2 has a great story with (from what I've heard) gameplay, difficulty, and AI issues.

I don't have much idea of any position, which will make this match absolutely sweet (and Kingdom Hearts 2 makes me hungry for chocolate, for some reason). Half-Life 2 is the only one of these games that failed to break 40k (or even 35k) votes last round, so it's probably coming in last. After that, I'm going to assume that Twilight Princess will win since it managed the highest vote total of these games (though RE4 and KH2 weren't very far off). So it boils down, once again, to Kingdom Hearts 2 vs. Resident Evil 4. As much as we'd like to think RE4 will get hurt by Twilight Princess, I just don't think so, since most Nintendo fans prefer RE4 over TP. In that theory, RE4 should actually do better on KH2 since Gears of War might have been hurting it last round. And, uhm, that's all that I have to say. Well, I have a feeling that Half-Life 2 will do respectably, so...

Resident Evil 4 - 25.82%, Kingdom Hearts 2 - 24.65%, Zelda: Twilight Princess - 27.43%, Half-Life 2 - 22.11%
Prediction: Zelda: Twilight Princess > Resident Evil 4
Bracket: Resident Evil 4 > Half-Life 2
Favorites: Resident Evil 4 > Half-Life 2
Favorites Bracket: Resident Evil 4 > Half-Life 2

*listens to music from Ecco the Dolphin 2*
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 1:57:33 AM | message detail
If anything, oblivion seems like the better late night game... its getting some massive updates here.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/21/2009 2:05:49 AM | message detail
Perhaps I should alert my friends to this...
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 2:09:03 AM | message detail
KH2 vs. RE4 tomorrow should be a good match. I'm siding with KH2 atm
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 3:44:21 AM | message detail
Oblivion and WoW seem to be doing the most with morning vote, and ToS and MGS continue to die. Oblivion is doing a tiny bit better though, so it might win the asv by a tiny bit.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/21/2009 4:25:49 AM | message detail
Hmm.....Oblivion is doing pretty well here; WoW didn't kill it overnight. Xbox always does much much better with the ASV than the morning, so I say WoW is going to need a rally with the SNV to win this.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/21/2009 4:31:43 AM | message detail
WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF WARCRAFT!!!

I thought it would be either Oblivion or Tales of Symphonia in 2nd place. Seems Blizzard does really well unless we're talking about an RTS.

Now lets start hyping up Resident Evil 4 vs. Kingdom Hearts II. I'm not even going to e-mail to my one friend who is a Kingdom Hearts fanatic. ULTIMATE ADRENALINE RUSH ALL THE WAY!!!
greatone10 | Posted 5/21/2009 4:58:01 AM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | Posted: 5/21/2009 4:31:43 AM | #192
I thought it would be either Oblivion or Tales of Symphonia in 2nd place. Seems Blizzard does really well unless we're talking about an RTS.


Considering that WoW is only leading ToS by 1400, it really just means that all three games are weaksauce.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 5/21/2009 4:59:51 AM | message detail
ToS beat San Andreas and GoW, it deserves more credit than you're giving.
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greatone10 | Posted 5/21/2009 5:30:13 AM | message detail
San Andreas and God Of War aren't exactly top tier competition either. I completely gave up on GTA being anything more than high fodder long ago.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 5:39:57 AM | message detail
If anything, oblivion seems like the better late night game... its getting some massive updates here.

I'm pretty sure Oblivion will have a better ASV than WoW. Like I said WoW has the night and DSV.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: MGS3 > GTA: SA Points: 147/224
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 6:26:47 AM | message detail
Still don't see why people expected night trends out of WoW. ITs not the same as WC3, which is what previous trends were from.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 6:28:43 AM | message detail
WoW, like you've said is average everywhere, so is Oblivion though both did a bit better in the night and day respectively.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: MGS3 > GTA: SA Points: 147/224
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/21/2009 6:40:51 AM | message detail
heh Oblivion just cut MGS
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/21/2009 6:48:34 AM | message detail
When was that?
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