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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 722
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/20/2009 9:08:57 PM | message detail |
FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAR ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
SHINE GET 64 | Posted 5/20/2009 9:09:26 PM | message detail |
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/Kratos_Aurion56/1122498477476.jpg --- http://hatshrapnel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/5.JPG http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/04/demon_bath.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 9:10:01 PM | message detail |
Zelos Wilder Biggest Awesome Character : Contest Strength disparity ever --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 5/20/2009 9:10:35 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 5/21/2009 12:10:01 AM | #003 Laharl --- The question to everyone's answer. |
BrettEagles | Posted 5/20/2009 9:12:27 PM | message detail |
INFERIOR BEINGS!! --- http://www.backloggery.com/bretteagles http://backloggery.com/bretteagles/sig.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 9:16:30 PM | message detail |
Biggest Awesome Character : Contest Strength disparity ever Squall Leonhart. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 9:40:28 PM | message detail |
Time | Halo 2 | MGS3 | Okami | WoW | Demographic EBV | 21.08% | 36.62% | 19.79% | 22.52% | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 21.40% | 36.34% | 18.78% | 23.47% | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 19.42% | 36.30% | 19.47% | 24.82% | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 18.13% | 36.38% | 20.86% | 24.63% | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 22.91% | 34.20% | 18.56% | 24.34% | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 23.46% | 35.19% | 18.11% | 23.24% | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 22.94% | 35.38% | 18.41% | 23.27% | (22:00-24:00) Aw yeah, ToS! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Gaddswell | Posted 5/20/2009 9:41:05 PM | message detail |
Symphonia up again! Wonder how many lead changes we'll get from these 3. --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 9:41:25 PM | message detail |
Damn ToS ralliers WoW should take some notes. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: MGS3 > GTA: SA Points: 147/224 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 9:41:28 PM | message detail |
Yeah, wow is really balanced. Goes down a tiny bit during the asv, but fine otherwise. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
transience | Posted 5/20/2009 9:41:53 PM | message detail |
Warcraft looks pretty balanced. it held up pretty well considering Halo 2 was in the poll. MGS3 looks all right here - pretty much what you'd expect. --- xyzzy |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 9:42:04 PM | message detail |
That was a weekend match, for the record. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/20/2009 9:42:04 PM | message detail |
Symphonia really doesnt want Oblivion to advance, its fighting tooth and nail for 2nd. --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
Advanced_Koko8 | Posted 5/20/2009 9:42:45 PM | message detail |
Now where is the Elder Scrolls Rally? --- New_Jerusalem-I find it messed up that Thomas Jefferson is on the $2 bill. SN_Ninja-Didn't Thomas steal the invention of the lightbulb? Or w/e. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 9:42:50 PM | message detail |
And
it's looking like WoW, Halo 2, SA, GoW, Oblivion, and ToS are all in
the same general area, and Okami isn't that far behind. This might be
the most balanced eight-pack we've ever seen. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 9:43:39 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #015 Gotta hand it to bacon for that 8pack at least. It has given some damn good matches --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
Lopen | Posted 5/20/2009 9:45:00 PM | message detail |
Psh. You think Bacon knew? He lucked into that one. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
transience | Posted 5/20/2009 9:45:17 PM | message detail |
meh, bring on tomorrow's slugfest --- yzzyx |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 9:45:24 PM | message detail |
We really, really need some sort of notice that says THIS WAS A WEEKEND MATCH on the contest updater site. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 9:45:27 PM | message detail |
ToS might be able to hold on until the Power Hour ends, at least. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 9:45:42 PM | message detail |
wow really needs to start showing some life here --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
Gaddswell | Posted 5/20/2009 9:45:46 PM | message detail |
Well it's about time something got to 20 votes! --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
Yesmar | Posted 5/20/2009 9:45:48 PM | message detail |
"Oh dear me, all this rushing around appears to have disrupted my tea." "Quite right, my fellow sprawling friend." "Taste the pain of this 'inferior' tea as you burn in hell!!!!" "Well now, that was uncalled for." "Indubitably." "Excuse me, waiter, there's a snake in my tea." --- FastFalcon owned me in the Guru Contest! |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 9:46:09 PM | message detail |
Nothing interesting here. WoW should take the night better than Oblivion or ToS --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: MGS3 > GTA: SA Points: 147/224 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 9:46:31 PM | message detail |
SOME DAYS YOU'LL FEED ON A TREE FROOOOOOOOOOOOOOG! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 9:46:58 PM | message detail |
Talking about WoW night vote How much does it need to be safe? and remember, neither ToS nor Oblivion are day monsters nor is WoW bad at the day --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 9:47:38 PM | message detail |
If WoW can build any sort of substantial lead, it's safe. Heck, if any of these games can do it, they're safe. And by substantial, I mean something like 700-1000. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 5/20/2009 9:49:00 PM | message detail |
rate my purchases : Punch-Out!! -49.99(new) Madworld - 29.99(new) --- Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire. |
Lopen | Posted 5/20/2009 9:50:16 PM | message detail |
I
wouldn't say you can get much out of ToS's or Oblivion's day vote from
last round, and if anything it makes them look good with it more than
"not anything special." Remember when everyone was saying God of War
was gonna dominate ToS with the day vote? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
WarThaHedgehog | Posted 5/20/2009 9:50:22 PM | message detail |
Punch-Out 12/10 --- http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3230/takerface.gif |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 5/20/2009 9:50:32 PM | message detail |
Well,
the good news for ToS is that Oblivion's trends are completely
different so far from round 1. It steadily gained percentage after the
freeze there, and it's steadily lost it here. Still think ToS has the
worst chance to advance here by far, but it's not completely dead. --- FastFalcon and Solid Snake snapped my neck in the guru contest. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 9:50:43 PM | message detail |
horrible update --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 9:50:58 PM | message detail |
Now Oblivion and ToS are kicking it into gear while WoW stalls. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 9:50:59 PM | message detail |
WoW may stay in last for the full hour. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: MGS3 > GTA: SA Points: 147/224 |
Lopen | Posted 5/20/2009 9:51:40 PM | message detail |
WoW's out of juice. Long live Symphonia. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
WarThaHedgehog | Posted 5/20/2009 9:51:56 PM | message detail |
Justice and love will always prevail! --- http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3230/takerface.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 9:52:36 PM | message detail |
Victory... --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 9:52:44 PM | message detail |
oh btw, expect 8-9 AM to possibly be a good hour for WoW. Servers are gonig down an hour then for matinence. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
PreseaCombatir | Posted 5/20/2009 9:52:48 PM | message detail |
Goodness and love will always win! --- "Chiri to kashinasai! Kore de... owari desu! HIEN MESSHOUJIN!!! Toki wa modoranai, sore ga sizen no setsuri." ~Presea Combatir |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 9:52:49 PM | message detail |
Weird trends. At this point last round ToS had completely lost steam and was losing big updates to Oblivion. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 9:53:54 PM | message detail |
And man, Elder Scroll fanboys are whining yet again. They're a small but vocal bunch. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 9:54:28 PM | message detail |
well its a great game. If WoW wasn't here, I'd fully support it! --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
transience | Posted 5/20/2009 9:55:00 PM | message detail |
yeah, they're brutal. Castlevania ones are pretty bad too. --- xyzzy http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/_src/sc569/HNI_0022.jpg |
Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 5/20/2009 9:55:37 PM | message detail |
ToS kicking ass --- The question to everyone's answer. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 9:55:40 PM | message detail |
Hey maybe WoW can avoid last. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: MGS3 > GTA: SA Points: 147/224 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 9:55:47 PM | message detail |
ToS gets its biggest lead of the match. What's going on here? --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 9:55:48 PM | message detail |
*checks board* ...Ugh. Makes me feel bad to be an Oblivion fan. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 9:56:15 PM | message detail |
The ToS night vote strikes again --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/20/2009 9:56:33 PM | message detail |
God, what is up with Elder Scrolls' fanbase? These people cry so much. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
Lopen | Posted 5/20/2009 9:56:35 PM | message detail |
Strange
that ToS would have totally different trends this time around. Then
again, it happened with Metroid/Mario Kart to some degree as well. Who cares. Go Symphonia go! --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |