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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 721

LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 2:08:16 PM | message detail
Wind Waker didn't actually do that great with the ASV last round. It went down from its DSV about 1.5-2% there.
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ZFS | Posted 5/20/2009 2:19:05 PM | message detail
Melee not doing as well as I figured it would. Diablo looks like the real winner of this match, surprisingly. It's almost the exact same as last round despite stiffer competition. Not bad.

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transients | Posted 5/20/2009 2:19:39 PM | message detail
haha. you suck, Halo.

SSBM has always had one of the best day votes around, if not the best. this isn't "ASV SFF", you goofball.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 2:20:52 PM | message detail
My point is that SFF messes up trends. Halo is doing like nothing with the asv. Because of this, its being SFF'd by Melee.
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transients | Posted 5/20/2009 2:21:15 PM | message detail
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ZFS | Posted 5/20/2009 2:21:51 PM | message detail
Am I right to assume Albion has been pushing this all day

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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 2:22:36 PM | message detail
You are right to assume.

I will counter with the fact that the last two matches have made WoW's win look a lot less impressive!

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 2:23:49 PM | message detail
Actually I have barely talked about melee/halo sffing. That was more Yo and Harrich >_>
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 2:23:53 PM | message detail
My point is that SFF messes up trends.

Then that would mean that SSBM's trends should be messed up as well, and KH's should have been messed up yesterday. It doesn't just affect one.
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transients | Posted 5/20/2009 2:24:29 PM | message detail
Melee hindering Halo, I can accept that to a certain extent. trends changing though? sorry, but no.
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transients | Posted 5/20/2009 2:32:07 PM | message detail
I've no idea what to think of tonight's match. I take it Symphonia fans think it will place again?

Warcraft's gotta be the fave, I imagine... hardcore fanbase and all that. Symphonia's a nice pick though, and who knows with Oblivion.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 2:33:09 PM | message detail
Its all about what you think of the gta:sa/gow/tos/oblivion pack

I for one think it was pathetically weak and it'll be exposed for the fraud it is tonight. Thats the only reason I can think for ToS even advancing
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 2:34:22 PM | message detail
I for one think it was pathetically weak and it'll be exposed for the fraud it is tonight.

Strange, I was thinking the same thing about WoW's pack.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 2:34:22 PM | message detail
Based on Halo/GTA comparisans...ToS and Oblivion have gotta be the heavy favorites going in. WoW might pull something weird, but it's probably just outclassed.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 2:36:45 PM | message detail
Thats all I'm going to say about the match tonight though till it starts, so don't worry about doing lots of arguements about it till then ;)
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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/20/2009 2:41:12 PM | message detail
Hey hey now, I was pushing the whole "Halo not doing anything during the ASV because of SSBM/WW" before it was popular, and was called an idiot for it! I love when I predict something right though.

And kickass job Diablo! I knew it was going to be the most legit of the Blizzard games.
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 5/20/2009 2:41:34 PM | message detail
I think it'll be a toss-up between WoW and Oblivion. ToS should be a distant fourth. It won't repeat its first round performance.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/20/2009 2:42:17 PM | message detail
I for one think it was pathetically weak and it'll be exposed for the fraud it is tonight. Thats the only reason I can think for ToS even advancing

I completely agree with you there. I got whatever game it was that beat WoW > WoW and I'm pretty confident in it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 2:42:31 PM | message detail
If anything, ToS has reason to do a little better than its 1st round performance. Out-of-nowhere wins like that tend to help contestants down the run.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 2:43:37 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #219
If anything, ToS has reason to do a little better than its 1st round performance. Out-of-nowhere wins like that tend to help contestants down the run.


Except it has one big reason to not do as well. It did so well since it was the only japanese game, and now one of the biggest japanese game series in it the same poll now.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 2:45:25 PM | message detail
Yeah, that PS2-only M-rated stealth game is gonna sap ToS like nuts.





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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 2:48:11 PM | message detail
Yeah, same-country-LFF is brutal, man!

Hey hey now, I was pushing the whole "Halo not doing anything during the ASV because of SSBM/WW" before it was popular, and was called an idiot for it!

Sometimes I think you make this stuff up because I don't remember this at all.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 2:49:09 PM | message detail
Yeah, same-country-LFF is brutal, man!

It was the only reason ToS won last round.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 2:49:46 PM | message detail
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greatone10 | Posted 5/20/2009 2:49:52 PM | message detail
There's still the fact that ToS is the only thing in that match even resembling Nintendo.
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ZFS | Posted 5/20/2009 2:49:56 PM | message detail
The meaning of 'SFF' and 'LFF' is slowly losing its meaning with every match.

Late 90s SFF imho

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 5/20/2009 2:51:56 PM | message detail
From: ZFS
The meaning of 'SFF' and 'LFF' is slowly losing its meaning with every match.

Late 90s SFF imho


Nah dude, clear case of GameFAQs Poll SFF. Last time, ToS did really well with people that vote in Contest Polls, but now it's got 2 more polls that also appeal heavily to that group of people.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 2:52:47 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #226
The meaning of 'SFF' and 'LFF' is slowly losing its meaning with every match.

Late 90s SFF imho


With 4 ways there is so much SFF in every match though. Even things that might sound like dumb reasons can be enough to cause something to lose
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 3:00:19 PM | message detail
How about we forget about factors and such and just cheer for our favourite game?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 3:01:03 PM | message detail
Or how 'bout we just ignore everything Albion says?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 3:01:51 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #229
How about we forget about factors and such and just cheer for our favourite game?


This is actually the best idea. Since these things are so unpredictable anyway that a lot of the arguements we make are just pure speculation anyway
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 3:02:20 PM | message detail
I like my idea better, 2002 and 2003 was much more epic because we had no idea how things work.

Ignorance is bliss!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 3:03:02 PM | message detail
I can't wait for the board vote. ToS dominated it last round despite having 0 bracket backing, and WoW had the 4th worst board vote of the round despite being a bracket favorite. The first few minutes should be ugly.

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nintendogirl1 | Posted 5/20/2009 3:04:14 PM | message detail
From: charmander6000
How about we forget about factors and such and just cheer for our favourite game?

Because when I do and say RBY is a Top 10 game you complain. It is because I say it is. And I can prove it with my adjusted for SFF stats.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 3:08:12 PM | message detail
Because when I do and say RBY is a Top 10 game you complain.

That was part of the fun...
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/20/2009 3:58:55 PM | message detail
So Smash has a stronger day vote than Halo. Not unexpected, but Halo finally loses the day vote throne that it's occupied for about 5 years.

As for Albion's ridiculous arguments......you still haven't learned the meaning of "random variation," I see. Or you are just trolling, or both. Well I'm not going to argue about this another time.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 4:00:46 PM | message detail
Its likely I'm just stupid instead of trolling. I try not to troll in this topic.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/20/2009 4:06:12 PM | message detail
Hmm....Diablo's currently getting 58.54% on Halo. That'll come down some more before we're done, but it will still end up being at least 6% higher than last round. That is......pretty surprising, and a bigger difference than caused by most LFF situations.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/20/2009 4:12:52 PM | message detail
Just got on and I still see Halo in last place.

I guess this site really does hate FPS games nowadays.
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BDawg | Posted 5/20/2009 4:14:49 PM | message detail
Halo Crumbles in the Clutch factor confirmed.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/20/2009 4:17:36 PM | message detail
Sometimes I think you make this stuff up because I don't remember this at all.


XxSoulxX | Posted 5/20/2009 12:08:42 PM | message detail | delete | filter | #376
Halo won't be coming back that well with the ASV either, because of WW and SSBM. Diablo has second.
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LeonhartFour (tc) | Posted 5/20/2009 12:10:03 PM | message detail | filter | #380
Halo won't be coming back that well with the ASV either, because of WW and SSBM. Diablo has second.

That's not necessarily true.
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Xuxon | Posted 5/20/2009 4:21:53 PM | message detail
i think at the very least tos will beat oblivion. it's kinda mmo-like, so i'd expect wow to steal enough support there.
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/20/2009 4:23:32 PM | message detail
Oh yeah the next match might be interesting to say the least.

While i doubt that ToS will advance again, the fact that it cleared the first round by taking down God of War was a surprise to many. MGS3 however is definitely a major contender so Symphonia wont be able to beat Snake here.

World of Warcraft and Oblivion will be the ones to watch for in this match. World of Warcraft did not have a good showing in the first round, and Oblivion while did beat ToS in the first round, didn't exactly have a huge lead on it either.

The real question is how will MGS3 and WoW affect ToS and Oblivion.

For some odd reason my gut is telling me that WoW might drain votes from Oblivion, call me crazy if you want, but thats what my gut is saying.

If this does happen however, and Symphonia advances again, do you think it might get past round 3 if it somehow gets by Oblivion and WoW?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/20/2009 4:24:17 PM | message detail
It's very likely I finish this round with only 2 correct matches.

FF7 > Goldeneye, and the inevitable CoD4 > Brawl.
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MetricTrout | Posted 5/20/2009 4:24:22 PM | message detail
Halo is slowly gaining with the ASV. It just is moving at an excruciatingly slow rate. SSBM is the real winner in this time period, which is to be expected, considering nothing really wins the day vote over Smash.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 4:25:04 PM | message detail
If ToS somehow makes it past here, its dead next round. It'll be up against TP, MGS3 and RE4/KH2. Those games will suck the votes out of ToS.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/20/2009 4:30:38 PM | message detail
True, KH2 alone would knock out its rpg support.

However Symphonia getting to round 3 would still make a champ in some people's eyes.

This was the same game whose characters did terrible in the character battle contests, yet in the games contest, it defeated a bracket favorite to advance to round 2.

But your right its fate is sealed if it advances as KH2 has shown to be quite the beast.

Nonetheless, Symphonia certainly showed that it is serious about fighting this year.
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greatone10 | Posted 5/20/2009 4:31:57 PM | message detail
I just want to know how Kratos Aurion can lose to an SFFed Diddy Kong, yet Symphonia beats God of War and San Andreas.
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MetricTrout | Posted 5/20/2009 4:33:52 PM | message detail
If ToS somehow makes it past here, its dead next round. It'll be up against TP, MGS3 and RE4/KH2. Those games will suck the votes out of ToS.

That was real insightful.
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WarThaHedgehog | Posted 5/20/2009 4:33:54 PM | message detail
Games =/= Characters

There is a remotely legit argument that Kefka could be weaker than an FFIV side character at this point, but FFVI is still a lot stronger than FFIV.
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