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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 721
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/20/2009 10:31:42 AM | message detail |
There is no bandwagon yet. I spent a lot of time on D2 last night and today, and I didn't see a single spam bot. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 10:34:27 AM | message detail |
Did Diablo 2 seriously just cut SSBM in the middle of the day? --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 10:34:59 AM | message detail |
Diablo II doesn't go down and SSBM doesn't go up until the ASV. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
hochiminhX | Posted 5/20/2009 10:35:03 AM | message detail |
Why is SSBM sucking? --- I will bury you. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 10:36:02 AM | message detail |
After seeing this match though, gives me renewed confidence in WoW tomorrow. I will be shocked if it doesn't go through now. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 10:36:42 AM | message detail |
Why is SSBM sucking? Wind Waker, don't worry it'll tear up the next four-pack. Thanks a lot KH! --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: Halo > SSBM Points: 145/216 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 10:36:47 AM | message detail |
After seeing StarCraft, I'll be shocked if WoW goes through tomorrow. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 10:37:42 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #157 WoW is a lot closer to Diablo then Starcraft in terms of genre/demographics. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/20/2009 10:38:04 AM | message detail |
Maybe
the top half of D128 isn't the only thing overrated in the 2004 stats.
All things considered, Vice City/MGS2/Melee/FFX/etc haven't been
blowing us away. Then there's Wind Waker actually hurting Melee quite a
lot. If some POS Zelda game can rSFF Melee, Ocarina will destroy it. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 10:38:11 AM | message detail |
After seeing this match though, gives me renewed confidence in WoW tomorrow. I will be shocked if it doesn't go through now. I don't know isn't the consensus Halo > Halo 2 on this board? Also I would be surprise if SA was far off from VC in strength --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: Halo > SSBM Points: 145/216 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 10:38:55 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #160 I mean in terms of steady percentage/bandwagoning. I'm sure many of the people bandwagoning Diablo today will be back for tomorrows match as well. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 10:39:51 AM | message detail |
WoW is a lot closer to Diablo then Starcraft in terms of genre/demographics. But they're still different. Diablo doing well doesn't mean WoW will. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 10:39:53 AM | message detail |
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 10:40:05 AM | message detail |
If some POS Zelda game can rSFF Melee, Ocarina will destroy it. LFF. Also I agree Melee made the whole division overrated when it went against FFVII. Starcraft just made its half even worse. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: Halo > SSBM Points: 145/216 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 10:40:57 AM | message detail |
Plus
theres seriously rallying going on here with Diablo that will help WoW
too. (Unless you think without rallying it can go from cutting SSBM to
nearly being cut by halo 2 updates later) --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 10:40:58 AM | message detail |
(Unless you think without rallying it can go from cutting SSBM to beign cut by halo 2 updates later) Some people like to call those bad updates. Every game has them, even Diablo II. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 10:41:17 AM | message detail |
I
mean in terms of steady percentage/bandwagoning. I'm sure many of the
people bandwagoning Diablo today will be back for tomorrows match as
well. I don't see any bangwagoning on the forums and besides those don't start until round 3. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: Halo > SSBM Points: 145/216 |
consolefreak | Posted 5/20/2009 10:42:02 AM | message detail |
Random
variation is a pretty worthless argument, in general. Not only should
it be limited considering the amount of votes cast here (and the
consistency of the vote totals), there's also no way to know in which
direction the random variation went, ever. Whenever someone invokes random variation, he assumes the previous or current result was the "right" result, while there could just as well have been random variation in that match as well, making the match even more extreme. Example: Super Mario beat Chrono Trigger. One might suggest that CT could've won if the match had been held another day (random variation), but it's just as likely that SM64 underperformed and would've beat CT worse on average. Since there's no telling where the random variation went other than pure speculation, it is a worthless argument to bring up, ever. --- Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 10:42:21 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #166 Its more then just "Random variation" to go from cutting a game with 35% of the vote to only gaining 1 vote on a game with 17% two updates later. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
RockMFR 5 | Posted 5/20/2009 10:42:39 AM | message detail |
Wow. What a beastly performance by Diablo. --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 10:43:06 AM | message detail |
Its
more then just "Random variation" to go from cutting a game with 35% of
the vote to only gaining 1 vote on a game with 17% two updates later. No, it's not. You act like this is the first time this has ever happened. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 10:44:01 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #171 Of course its not. It happened in Starcraft matches, too. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
consolefreak | Posted 5/20/2009 10:45:36 AM | message detail |
That is in regards to invoking random variation to final percentages. And yeah I think Diablo's got some nice rallying/bandwagoning going on here. --- Oh, I've got one. A Mexican, a Jew and a colored guy go into a bar. The bartender looks up to them and says: "Get the **** out of here" -- Gran Torino |
MegatokyoEd | Posted 5/20/2009 10:45:39 AM | message detail |
Why is Wind Waker doing better on Melee than last round? --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 10:45:46 AM | message detail |
Of course its not. It happened in Starcraft matches, too. Kingdom Hearts did that yesterday though it came fourth in one update then almost took first right after. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: Halo > SSBM Points: 145/216 |
hochiminhX | Posted 5/20/2009 10:47:10 AM | message detail |
Why is Wind Waker doing better on Melee than last round? Same reason MM did better on RBY or why SM did better on LTTP. There's a limit to how bad a game can be SFFed --- I will bury you. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 10:49:09 AM | message detail |
Same reason MM did better on RBY or why SM did better on LTTP. There's a limit to how bad a game can be SFFed Or SFF matches really rely on who decides to show up on that day. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: Halo > SSBM Points: 145/216 |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/20/2009 11:17:39 AM | message detail |
Just
for the record, we're only ~2000 votes higher than our lowest scoring
match of the contest at this point in time, so I really don't think
there's that much, if any funny business going on here. --- I'm gonna keep on going, I know I'll be strong. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 11:19:17 AM | message detail |
You
sure about that, Kleenex? I just checked the Fallout match which only
had 102k total votes, and we're 10k infront of it at this time --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 11:21:23 AM | message detail |
Are you calculating correctly since we're only a couple hundred off from yesterday's match which hit 120k. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: Halo > SSBM Points: 145/216 |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/20/2009 11:26:36 AM | message detail |
The
ASV is usually where the big difference in votals comes in, generally
most matches have about the same number of votes until then. Which was my point, there's really nothing that should lead anyone to believe there's serious rallying or whatever going on here. If you don't like the random variation argument, that's fine (I don't particularly care for it either), but jumping to bandwagoning/rallying just because the result seems weird is just as bad. --- I'm gonna keep on going, I know I'll be strong. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 11:28:07 AM | message detail |
-shrug-
votals seem fine to me to consider bandwagoning and rallying. I mean
those might just a couple thousand total votes, and we're in a SFF
match anyway, so I don't see the vote total ending up 115-120k being
that off. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 12:02:48 PM | message detail |
The ASV is going to be brutal for Diablo II and it isn't even that bad in it. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: Halo > SSBM Points: 145/216 |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/20/2009 12:04:23 PM | message detail |
Of course its not. It happened in Starcraft matches, too. Funny example to use, since I don't believe you argued that Starcraft rallied in its R1 match..... --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 12:11:23 PM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #184 I meant in its 2004 matches mainly. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 12:14:39 PM | message detail |
yeah, Zelda just cut 23 on Diablo... this is gonna be rough for Diablo. I just hope it can stay over 40% on SSBM --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 12:18:09 PM | message detail |
Again Kingdom Hearts did the same thing yesterday, things like this happen. Though Starcraft did rally in 2004. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: Halo > SSBM Points: 145/216 |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/20/2009 12:29:02 PM | message detail |
I'll
concede on yo's point from earlier about Halo/SSBM; I wouldn't be
surprised about SSBM/Halo overlap anymore through multi-player. I doubt
it's had much effect in other matches though (except maybe GE/MK64). --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 12:55:32 PM | message detail |
The
ASV is usually where the big difference in votals comes in, generally
most matches have about the same number of votes until then. This is not true. On weekends, the normal ASV timeframe brings in a lot fewer votes, and the normal DSV timeframe brings in a lot more votes. In fact, they're usually about the same. For example, in MGS/RBY/MM/GS, there were 37384 votes cast during the regular DSV timeframe and 38323 votes during the normal ASV timeframe. The match was on a Sunday. The next day, OoT/FFVIII/SC/FFIX brought in 32043 votes during the DSV and 42819 votes during the ASV, over 10,000 votes more. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/20/2009 12:57:13 PM | message detail |
Well, obviously weekends are going to be the exception when you're using the timeframe breakdowns. I figured that was implied. --- I can feel it coming over me; I feel it all around me. http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 12:58:53 PM | message detail |
Well, this match seems to be on the same pace as yesterday's, give or take, and it got around 120,000. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/20/2009 1:09:24 PM | message detail |
Is this- Yup, Albion has half the posts on this page. Time to bail for a while. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/20/2009 1:12:12 PM | message detail |
Halo's day vote is getting its ass handed to it by Melee's. WTG --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
RPGuy96 | Posted 5/20/2009 1:21:10 PM | message detail |
I
suppose that since we've now seen that the Smash day vote is better
than Halo's, next round's Melee/KH match will determine which series
has the absolute best day vote. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/20/2009 1:30:30 PM | message detail |
Eh,
it makes sense for Melee's to look better since it's that far ahead of
Halo, but Halo has barely done anything with it, so... --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 5/20/2009 1:42:24 PM | message detail |
You could tell this was coming when Halo barely dropped with the night vote. --- FastFalcon and Solid Snake snapped my neck in the guru contest. |
Janus5000 | Posted 5/20/2009 1:54:58 PM | message detail |
Cripes.
At least against Castlevania Halo moved percentage after school. Now
it's barely even moving and can only stall a game 2000 votes ahead of
it. Halo/Shadow/Kefka/Magus who outsucks the rest gogogogogo --- http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/HowDisturbing/stayawhile.jpg Stay a while and breathe me in. |
Janus5000 | Posted 5/20/2009 1:55:59 PM | message detail |
Though I am loving these 'Melee doubles everything' updates. --- http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/HowDisturbing/stayawhile.jpg Stay a while and breathe me in. |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/20/2009 2:03:11 PM | message detail |
Yeah, Melee is SFFing Halo. The ASV cements it. --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/39/girugamesh.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/20/2009 2:05:12 PM | message detail |
Well you know all four games are pretty good with the ASV. Even Diablo II wouldn't lose much in normal circumstances. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: Halo > SSBM Points: 145/216 |
