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FFX didn't even look like it was LLF'd that bad.

Easily enough to make it lose handily to Smash of course, especially since it looks like it's probably weaker even neutrally.
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Yesterday's chart:

Time | FFX | MGS2 | K. Hearts | Vice City | Demographic
EBV | 29.78% | 26.23% | 25.77% | 18.21% | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 30.78% | 24.89% | 27.18% | 17.15% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 32.79% | 23.30% | 25.63% | 18.28% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 33.58% | 21.64% | 25.95% | 18.83% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 32.97% | 22.25% | 25.78% | 19.00% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 29.42% | 21.86% | 30.50% | 18.22% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 30.32% | 21.69% | 30.80% | 17.19% | (22:00-24:00)

FFX struggles a bit in the first hour, but does well until the ASV, where it dips a good bit. The famous KH ASV decides to show up today, jumping nearly 5% here and continuing through the rest of the match. MGS2 has a great board vote and Power Hour, and a solid night vote. The daytime was bad for it relatively speaking, but it was pretty balanced. Vice City was pretty balanced, too, though it dipped during the second night vote, for whatever the reason.

Yesterday's stats:

Final Fantasy X – 50.00%
Kingdom Hearts – 46.84%
Metal Gear Solid 2 – 41.61%
Vice City – 36.79%

Upper Half Stats

Final Fantasy X – 50.00%
Kingdom Hearts – 46.84%
Metal Gear Solid 2 (Round 2) – 41.61%
Metal Gear Solid 2 (Round 1) – 37.74%
Vice City (Round 2) – 36.79%
Vice City (Round 1) – 36.16%
Metroid Prime – 34.31%
Morrowind – 27.26%
Paper Mario – 24.89%
Silent Hill 2 – 16.43%
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it's gonna be Pokemon in the match anyway, FFX will move on with ease

i take that back, Pokemon might have a chance against FFX there

Hey, Diablo fell off a bit there.
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I should note just because the LoZ series would kill the SSB series doesn't mean SSBM can't stand up decently to LoZ:OoT; very different genres are involved, SSBM was a defining game for a different Nintendo system (and was for all intents and purposes a launch game)...all that. That said, LoZ:OoT has beaten another powerhouse in LoZ:LttP in various polls and destroyed SM64 in a match -- not to mention it's been the jewel in Nintendo's crown for more than the past decade. Seeing SSBM ~double another LoZ game two rounds straight is nice, but LoZ:WW also got like 21% against LoZ:TP in the GotC-poll...and LoZ:OoT would crush LoZ:TP. SSBM's going to have a very tough time surviving.

Pretty much, I think I would need to see R/B/Y advance next round to believe SSBM could stand a chance of ousting the winner of FFX/FF8...but if R/B/Y advances, FF8'll be gone and FFX will dominate SSBM and Pokemon anyway. Bad news either way for SSBM.
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Shorthand, do you speak it?!

And if MGS advances, SSBM is still dead meat!
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I think Mario would have held up relatively well to LoZ. Certainly not a doubling.

Eh...I guess, but this poll always scared me...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=525

...especially since LoZ:WW > SMS and LoZ:TP was on the horizon since after that poll. Then again, it's incredibly old, so what-ev. Either way, SMB would not have looked very good at all against LoZ and SSB probably over-performed on SMB.
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Prototype
Shorthand, do you speak it?!

That was back when Mario wasn't even that strong on this site. Super Mario Bros. as a whole has gotten stronger since 2005. I don't think there's any way it gets close to FF before the Nintendo Boost.
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I don't think Smash really overperformed that much, it's just beloved around here. And I think there's pretty much no way LoZ could've doubled SMB. SMB franchise gets too much respect for that.
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a poll from like 7 years ago wtih 12k votes is not reliable

Todays match already has more votes.
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I like those Diablo II = Starcraft ideas by the way. Time to talk up FFVIII > FFX (and SSBM!) some more.
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FastFalcon and Solid Snake snapped my neck in the guru contest.

The fact Diablo is dominating Halo so much today is making me think it already has a bandwagon somewhat.

Last Round: Diablo had 51.5% on Halo
Today: Diablo has 57.5% on Halo
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sheesh, Diablo 2's board vote is almost FF7-esque. it'll be above 40% on Melee soon. I think D2's legit, but not 40% on a top 5 game legit.

and lol halo
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and I'd expect SSBM to stand up relatively well to OOT -- of course, when your standard is Mario 64, you don't have to do well in order to be better.
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this is also before halo's day vote. d2 had 53.5% on halo at this time in the poll last round. still an improvement though. i'd say possible but unlikely that it beats ffx next round.

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quite a funny chart of one game rising to heaven and the other falling like a rock
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I feel like the FFX/KH split could go a lot differently with FFX being in jeopardy of losing next round. I don't have any real reason to feel this way but I could see KH voters swinging to FFX.
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From: Xuxon | #066
this is also before halo's day vote. d2 had 53.5% on halo at this time in the poll last round. still an improvement though. i'd say possible but unlikely that it beats ffx next round.

Halo may drop below 40% on Diablo 2 over night. Sure the day vote will repair quite a bit of it, but its night vote is famously bad, especially 2 AM on
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Just saying, we all saw LoZ/Metroid and SSB do surprisingly well on SMB. I certainly wouldn't have taken SMB to get 40+% directly on LoZ.

ANYWAY, all that's just to get at this: I really don't like SSBM's chances at standing up to LoZ:OoT after what we've seen so far. It may bother LoZ:OoT, but SSBM's also not going to look its best.
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Prototype
Shorthand, do you speak it?!

all i'm saying is it's only up +4 points from last round when you correctly compare the times, not +6. who knows, maybe it will end up +6 from last round, but i don't see any reason for that yet.

Diablo is tearing these updates apart. Anyone who said we could be seeing Melee cuts during the night hours might be right.
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we'll see a cut. that won't be too surprising, Melee is a lot like Halo with its trends.
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Diablo can get like 41-42% on melee before the morning vote I think
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Anybody else liking Diablo next round? It is clearly a cut above MGS2 and VC, and could potentially take advantage of that FFX/KH split, which will only be made worse by adding a popular game to the mix.
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Not to mention possible bandwagon factor. Diablo 2 is starting to look like quite the sexy upset pick.
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nah, I still like FFX. I'm not even sure I'd take it over MGS2.

I think the FFX/KH split is probably about as big as the SSBM/WW split, so I think the best way to judge the two is to go off our opinions of Diablo 2 and MGS2.
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only 20 vote gain for melee there. Cuts are coming soon
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the main reason i kinda-sorta like d2 next round is that it's hardly doing any worse than last round even with Melee added to the mix. there's all sorts of explanations though - pic factor, kotor stealing the pc rpg votes, possible bandwagon, or a "hardcore" fanbase.

MGS2 got 43% on SSBM in a normal match. If Diablo 2 can't match that while SSBM's being LFF'd by WW, it stands no chance.
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only 9 vote gain there and Diablo 2 is now over 40% on SSBB
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thank you for the play by play

the MGS2 getting 43% argument is nonsense because Melee is stronger now than it used to be. though maybe it spiked in 2006 and has since subsided with Nintendo coming back to earth, dunno.

man, a game contest in 2006 would have been ridiculous.
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"Actually, fire didn't make Sephiroth awesome. Sephiroth made fire awesome." -Karma Hunter

My bracket says Melee > Halo, but my heart says Melee > Diablo 2. Diablo 2's lone weakness is graphics and music; almost none of the spells or character models are impressive, and the music is bland as hell.

And does it even matter when subjective criteria are a game's weakness? The game is just so perfect and addictive.
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Yeah, SSBM's definitely stronger now. LFF'd SSBM probably isn't though, which is why I made the comparison.
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Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep. They think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.

Just saying, we all saw LoZ/Metroid and SSB do surprisingly well on SMB. I certainly wouldn't have taken SMB to get 40+% directly on LoZ.

I don't really care what LoZ did to Metroid. SMB would've done the same thing. That says more about Metroid than it does about LoZ.
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And I think Halo will probably end up beating WW by the end of this, but this is still bad.
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@redsox777: Eh, you would vote for SSBM over any Mario game? Wow, that was somewhat disheartening. SSBM/B can hold my interest for a few months, at best. Of course, that's true about most games I play, but mostly because I just run off to play something else.

LOL HALO. I stil like the fact that I voted for the last place game, and I will vote for Half-Life 2 in its match. It seems that Kingdom Hearts won the match in the USA, for some reason. BTW Final Fantasy X so far has the lowest vote total among first place entrants and Grand Theft Auto: Vice City has the highest vote total among last place entrants so far. Speaking of which, let's look at the vote total trends for yesterday's match.

Final Fantasy X kept about 67.22% of its votes from last round.
Metal Gear Solid 2 kept about 79% of its votes from last round.
Kingdom Hearts kept about 68.38% of its votes from last round.
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City kept about 71.86% of its votes from last round.

Everybody did at least marginally well, and it seems that MGS2 and GTA: VC kept a good portion of their votes from last round, indicating that they are just this weak in the first place when you consider the fact that they didn't advance. It also seems that FFX and KH were hurting each other a little bit, but not all that much. NEVER TRUST FINAL FANTASY X TO GO AND SFF SOMETHING, KIDS!!!

Wow, poor Halo.

Well at least I was right about WW not having a snowball's chance in hell, and I do think it'll end up in 4th by a decent margin when this is all said and done.
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I just realized Sailor Bacon rigged the bracket so FFIV could go far. Recall that Sailor Bacon's favorite game of all time is FFIV.

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Diablo 2 is up to 59.1% against Halo. What a performance.
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D2 finally gets a double digit cut!
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I think Halo takes last here. Zelda has the better morning vote, meaning that Wind Waker should have quite a few more good hours to work with here.

And that begs the question... what's been the bigger bomb: Halo or GTA?
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the best Halo title has 18% on SSBM, SFF'd Wind Waker (supposedly), and Diablo 2. the best GTA title got 18% on FFX, KH and MGS2.

it's up to you, I guess. I'd say Halo is the bigger bomb since it had low expectations as opposed to GTA which had absolutely none.
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that said, nothing bombed in either series like SA.
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GTA. Nothing can top that colossal egg San Andreas laid. Getting last place in a pack of lower midcarders that you were overwhelmingly favored to win is embarrassing.
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Seriously owned by FastFalcon in the Guru Contest. Congrats!

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God, I had Halo winning the division in my bracket, and now it can't even manage better than last place in round 2? What the hell is going on? It seems like all of the "OMG Halo is so overrated" people have come and mopped up the place. Good god. Hopefully tomorrow's match is less disgusting.

Or will it? The Ultimate Cold War Adventure (TM) will win with ease, but the big question is whether Tales of Symphonia will take advantage of an Oblivion/WoW split to advance. I don't think so, since today's match shows us that WRPG SFF is almost nonexistant, so I'm pegging Oblivion for the win.

I hope it gets remade on the Wii - 23%
Bethesda's Xbox 360/PC hit - 24%
The Ultimate Cold War Adventure - 31%
The best MMORPG in town - 22%

Prediction: Metal Gear Solid 3 > Oblivion
Bracket: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas > Metal Gear Solid 3 (oops)
Favorites: Metal Gear Solid 3 > Oblivion
Favorites Bracket: Metal Gear Solid 3 > Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

heh diablo has almost 43% on SSBM now
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*Checks results*

Dear God Halo. Why do you always need to screw my bracket over?
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