GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 719
ffmasterjose | Posted 5/17/2009 4:36:28 PM | message detail |
One of these days, I'm gonna tell ya 'bout my ROMANTIC dream! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- 138/192 points - The Best. Game. Ever 2009 Contest NP: Metal Gear Solid > Zelda: MM | http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=4 |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/17/2009 5:48:43 PM | message detail |
Tagalicious --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/17/2009 6:27:28 PM | message detail |
Isn't this roMANtic? That was undeniable proof that we totally owned you lamers! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Master Moltar | Posted 5/17/2009 9:06:00 PM | message detail |
geez OoT beastin' slow start for FF8, but it should still end up in second --- Moltar Status: complete global saturation Match 42 - Bracket: OoT > FF8 - Vote: OoT (135/200) |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/17/2009 9:06:01 PM | message detail |
Up you go. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:06:12 PM | message detail |
38 votes, pretty impressive. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > Starcraft Points: 137/200 |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:06:30 PM | message detail |
Ulti *needs* this topic at the top. --- http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/War13104/CenaJFrog.gif hey look i'm war and i'm stupid - WVI |
hochiminhX | Posted 5/17/2009 9:06:36 PM | message detail |
Okay, this is the absolute best time for OoT. LEt's see how much it bleeds once it's best time ends --- I will bury you. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/17/2009 9:06:57 PM | message detail |
I'm...not sure what this match says. Is it good for RBY? Good for OoT? Bad for FF8? Just an example of how bad LFF gets? Jeez. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/17/2009 9:07:02 PM | message detail |
It's
like when people see there are more than 1 Final Fantasy in a match
they get some sort of adverse mental reaction of disgust and vote for
neither --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/17/2009 9:07:22 PM | message detail |
If
Starcraft wins here, you know it makes it out of the next round as
well. FFVIII is my bracket baby, but this might be worth it just for
the photoshops of Carriers and Zerglings dismantling Pokemon. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/8zkzm1.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:07:36 PM | message detail |
If FFVIII and Starcraft switch percent my oracle would look pretty good. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > Starcraft Points: 137/200 |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 5/17/2009 9:08:00 PM | message detail |
En Taro Tassadar! --- http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/020/b/f/Ariel_by_lolita_art.jpg |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 5/17/2009 9:08:02 PM | message detail |
Which means OoT > FF7 confirmed(if FFX gets there with it) --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:08:04 PM | message detail |
We're
doing really well with votals today; we're at 1506 at the freeze. By
comparison, yesterday we were at 1286 and ended over 132,000. Those
trends probably won't hold, but if they do we'll end up above 150,000
today. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/17/2009 9:08:07 PM | message detail |
If SC wins here, I would take OoT>RBY>MGS>SC pretty easily in that poll. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
MetricTrout | Posted 5/17/2009 9:08:11 PM | message detail |
Well, I was right about FF8 and FF9 being close, but wrong about Starcraft being super weak. Though it sure looked weak last round. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=147 |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/17/2009 9:08:17 PM | message detail |
From: WarThaNemesis2 | Posted: 5/18/2009 12:06:30 AM | #007 ...what? Anyway FF8 could conceivably still get second place, but it's in trouble if we have a close match near the end. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
xp1337 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:08:29 PM | message detail |
but this might be worth it just for the photoshops of Carriers and Zerglings dismantling Pokemon. If it means the return of the "Carriers have arrived. What now, Link?" picture only with Pokemon, it's definitely worth it. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SC2k6 (190/240) 99.4958 Percentile |
Meeks54 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:08:33 PM | message detail |
From: hochiminhX | #008 Yeah, the Board vote, the board that hates Link is it's best time The next 55 minutes are it's third best time. It's actual best time it is the strongest entity on this site. Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:08:42 PM | message detail |
If
Starcraft wins here, you know it makes it out of the next round as
well. FFVIII is my bracket baby, but this might be worth it just for
the photoshops of Carriers and Zerglings dismantling Pokemon. Get a picture of a bunch of Pokemon and Starcraft units charging at each other. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > Starcraft Points: 137/200 |
WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:08:43 PM | message detail |
Ulti, check Moltar's post time, then yours. --- http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/War13104/CenaJFrog.gif hey look i'm war and i'm stupid - WVI |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:09:01 PM | message detail |
Apparently
that split % between the two FF games might reach the ideal situation
for Starcraft here. I certainly didnt think theyd be this close to each
other already. --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/17/2009 9:09:29 PM | message detail |
If SC wins here, I would take OoT>RBY>MGS>SC pretty easily in that poll. Of course you would. You're so lucky Carriers probably won't be arriving today. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/17/2009 9:10:12 PM | message detail |
Anyway FF8 could conceivably still get second place, but it's in trouble if we have a close match near the end. FFVIII won't lose. Cut 5. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MnMZero | Posted 5/17/2009 9:10:14 PM | message detail |
Too much FFVIII love in this topic. " Why should the world exist without me? That wouldn't be fair. If I die, we all die!" Says FFIX to FFVIII --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/17/2009 9:10:26 PM | message detail |
Ocarina of Time NUMBA ONE11111 --- Yoblazer: http://i38.tinypic.com/2s024p4.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
xp1337 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:10:32 PM | message detail |
Wrong way, Starcraft! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? SC2k6 (190/240) 99.4958 Percentile |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/17/2009 9:10:46 PM | message detail |
We're doing really well with votals today; we're at 1506 at the freeze. I was impressed with those starting votals. Very few matches this contest have started above 1500 in the first 5 minutes. Not sure if 1506 is the record for votals in the first 5 minutes of a match for this contest only. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but still not as cool as FastFalcon05, Guru Champ! |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:10:50 PM | message detail |
If Starcraft wins today, there ain't no getting off this HYPE TRAIN we're on! To the finals! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:10:50 PM | message detail |
5 vote cut... This is going to get ugly at night. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > Starcraft Points: 137/200 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/17/2009 9:11:10 PM | message detail |
Yeah, the Board vote, the board that hates Link is it's best time Actually, OoT's board vote is just fine. The board likes this game. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
hochiminhX | Posted 5/17/2009 9:11:19 PM | message detail |
How did Ocarina of Time manage to go up almost a full percent? Is this some kind of joke? --- I will bury you. |
RockMFR 5 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:11:23 PM | message detail |
I'm worried that the FF fans might be too smart and actually check the results prior to voting. --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 The Ohio State University: We are so much better than m*ch!g@n. |
RPGuy96 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:11:36 PM | message detail |
That's
about what I expected from FFVIII/StarCraft. I don't think this is
going to end particularly close. Prove me wrong, StarCraft! Ocarina's going to come out of this looking like a champ. Quite literally. --- Mustache...and Green... http://backloggery.com/rpguy96 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/17/2009 9:11:55 PM | message detail |
And looks like FFIX got the board vote here. FFVIII goes from 57 vote lead for a 144 vote lead. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/17/2009 9:11:57 PM | message detail |
Good lord, OoT. It's not like any of these games have day votes worth anything. Could it hit 50%? --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:12:17 PM | message detail |
32.02% / 36.10% 19.36% / 33.01% lol RBY was the favourite for first. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > Starcraft Points: 137/200 |
Meeks54 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:12:24 PM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #032 But you know as well as I that the board vote is not even close to OoT's best time 1 ASV 2 Morning 3 Power Hour --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:12:33 PM | message detail |
OOT
went up because everyone knew it would take first, so people in the
first 5 minutes didn't bother voting for it. It'll go down once we're
out of this power hour. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/17/2009 9:12:48 PM | message detail |
Ocarina of Time is taking advantage of an ideal situation. Yeah, the game's a beast. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
hochiminhX | Posted 5/17/2009 9:13:04 PM | message detail |
Ocarina is NOT hitting 50% and will not even match FFVII's percentage --- I will bury you. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/17/2009 9:14:00 PM | message detail |
Interesting to note that G/S got on MGS this round what Majora's Mask got on RBY last round. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Gaddswell | Posted 5/17/2009 9:14:03 PM | message detail |
Oh yeah, what happened to that list of hochi's league of excellence that was around in the opening post? --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png Hail FastFalcon, our new guru overlord! |
transience | Posted 5/17/2009 9:14:03 PM | message detail |
if Starcraft moves on, give me RBY next round. --- xyzzy "Actually, fire didn't make Sephiroth awesome. Sephiroth made fire awesome." -Karma Hunter |
creativename | Posted 5/17/2009 9:14:33 PM | message detail |
If Starcraft wins here, you know it makes it out of the next round as well. Not much chance of this actually. It wouldn't be that impressive a win, and wouldn't cause much hype - and this board loves its MGS and Pokemon too much to favor Starcraft over them. And Starcraft would need quite a boost to compete with MGS anyway. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
hochiminhX | Posted 5/17/2009 9:14:56 PM | message detail |
FTR, OoT is benefiting from the same phenominem that allowed SUPER MARIO WORLD TO INCREASE BY LIKE 7% FROM ROUND 1 TO ROUND 2. I --- I will bury you. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:15:03 PM | message detail |
if Starcraft moves on, give me RBY next round. More like Metal Gear Solid. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: LoZ: OoT > Starcraft Points: 137/200 |
Master Moltar | Posted 5/17/2009 9:15:24 PM | message detail |
holy damn Ocarina --- Moltar Status: complete global saturation Match 42 - Bracket: OoT > FF8 - Vote: OoT (135/200) |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 5/17/2009 9:15:26 PM | message detail |
ohmigod starcraft gain ohmigod ohmigod ohmigod ohmigod ohmigod ohmigod ohmigod ohmigod ohmigod ohmigod --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, FastFalcon05 |