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Nominate Pokemon Trainer.
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Pokémon Trainer can go to hell. We want Charizard.
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All the way.

The only ones there that aren't fodder are the FF7/8 characters (even a couple of them would be fodder, though I wonder if Laguna is stronger than Seifer), Metroid (would probably do better than the games!), Guile, maybe Epona, Roy, Shang Tsung, Solidus, and Robo.

Seeing Bahamut in a contest would be cool.
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hell yes
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Pokemon Trainer would be fodder, and I doubt Charizard would be stronger than Pikachu or Mewtwo. Pokemon is the ultimate ensemble cast.

I should be really excited for the match coming up- it has the highest concentration of strength so far this contest I think, one of my favorite games (OOT), and is absolutely make or break for my upset special based bracket. I think I'm going to be kind of numb to any results, even Starcraft pulling another huge comeback, until and unless CT finds a way to advance next round, though.
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What makes you think Trainer would be fodder? Certainly, he could be, which is why he should be nominated; because there is a whole range of possible strengths he could have. In fact, here are a few reasons why he should have decent strength.

* Silent protagonist of the 4th strongest Nintendo series (or 5th if you somehow still think that Metroid > Pokemon)
* Appeared in every Pokemon game and Brawl
* Does not draw the hate the hate that Pikachu or any other Pokemon would

The best Charizard could do is be slightly stronger than Pikachu. At worst, it would be another Mewtwo. Not only that, but Charizard has only been prominent in one generation of Pokemon, one that is not even significantly stronger than the others as this match shows. Not everyone started with Pokemon R/B/Y. Trainer, on the other hand, is representative of the series as a whole.
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MGS is looking pretty pathetic here to me. This is about as ideal of conditions you can create for it, and it's really, really failing to impress.

I don't really know how you could've expected it to do much better. Not every game is going to pull a Super Mario World and blow their round 1 percentage out of the water despite tougher competition. MGS is only 4% below its round 1 percentage despite this being a significantly stronger match.

Also, seeing as G/S and R/B/Y don't appear to be that far apart, does Xenogears beat RBY back in 2004?
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I love silent protagonists rather more than anyone I've ever met, but Pokemon Trainer strikes me as rather....uh....less of a character than, say, Link, Crono, or Serge. When you think of Legend of Zelda, you immediately think of Link, when you think of CT, you immediately think of Crono, when you think of Pokemon.....you think of the pokemon.
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Looking at that old list...I'd still like to see Gray Fox one of these days.
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I'm not sure if HK-47 is fodder, but I'd say Darth Revan would be stronger.
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Who the hell goes when you talk about Pokemon, "Aw yeah remember that Trainer? He was totally badass." Everyone knows the Trainer - but c'mon, no one cares. Peach syndrome.
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Yeah, about the only other Pokemon worth seeing is Charizard.

...And maybe Jigglypuff just so we can say we got the entire original SSB cast into a contest.
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By the way, post-RE5 Jill will be back to her Kirby-beating, Luigi-outperforming ways this year. Be on the lookout.
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Fair enough. The reason Pokemon Trainer is such a good nominee is because we have absolutely no idea how strong he would be.
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Weaker than the Pokemon. Come on, even these weird Pokenuts would feel lame voting for the damned trainer.
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Also, I saw someone mention Lopen say how a match with two FF games and Ocarina of Time is a good opportunity for StarCraft to thrive. It's also a good opportunity for it to get crushed.

And it's easily got the weakest picture tomorrow. I can't even tell what the heck is going on, but I'm not a StarCraft player.
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I'd enjoy watching Starcraft pull a Half-Life and languish around in the mid teens. I think it's plausible, too, especially since there's absolutely no "Mass Carriers hype" to speak of this time around.
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I am, and I have no idea what's going on in it either.

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It's just a ss of an archon attacking a sunken. Don't see what's so bad about that! Zealot or carrier would have been better though.
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I'd like to see how Brock would do in a contest. I can imagine him having an L-Block-esque run.
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I think a good majority of character strength is derived from the games. And who is more representative of the Pokemon series than the Pokemon Trainer himself? It even says Pokemon in his name.

Whereas with any particular Pokemon, there is a good chance casual fans will not encounter it. Take Charizard. Even in R/B/Y, there is only a 33% chance that you will have one in your party, another 33% chance that you will see one in your rival's party, and a 33% that you will not see one at all. And if you are playing G/S/C, R/S/E, or D/P/P? 0% chance of encountering a Charizard unless you trade with another version. With the Trainer, you will see him as your player character no matter which version you are playing.
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Just you wait. Starcraft with massive hype could beat FFVIII 1v1!

Anyway, votals seem to have finally recovered today. This is our first match to break 120,000 since Brawl's (something that had been relatively common before then) and indeed we are on track for over 130,000 today.
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That's it, I'm voting for FF9 based solely on its pic. FF8's pic is pretty bad so we will get to see how much FF9 can leech. Unfortunately Starcraft's pic is also horrible.

Zelda>FF8 still the heavy favorite IMO.
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Clearly this means all of these games are Top 10 material! Where's MarioLinkSamus with the votal stats?

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As far as the original starters go, they should have a HUGE 'owned' rate among all RBY fans. A lot of people back in the day played the game multiple times, using different starters, and Yellow had them all anyway.

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*Considers computing v-stats for round 2 using my subtract 95,000 and divide the remaining votes method*

*Realizes they will probably say that MGS and RBY are top 2 games*

Maybe I won't run that calculation.
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Squirtle's where it's at!
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*un-lurks*

Pokemon Trainer is not even a character unless you're talking about the guy from Brawl. The RBY trainer's canon name is Red - I assume that's who you're referring to. >_>

I mean, there's a chance SBAllen would still let "Pokemon Trainer" in since he's let in generic characters before. Just keep in mind that the match pics could end up showing, for example, a Bug Catcher, instead of a player character.

*resumes lurking*
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I am thinking Brawl managed to retroactively rename the character. If not, we could just nominate the character from Brawl, it will accomplish the same thing.
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OoT > FF9
just wait and see
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"As a rule, men worry more about what they can't see than about what they can. " - Julius Caesar

Pokemon series character I'd wager are stronger than Trainer:

Pikachu
Mewtwo
Charizard
Blastoise
Mew
Charmander
Squirtle
Bulbasaur
Ekans
Koffing
Meowth

There's almost a dozen off the top of my head. There's no reason to start a rally for the PT; it would be the personification of aughugh.
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Pikachu>Charizard>Pokemon Trainer>Mewtwo

How I think it would go.

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Who in their right mind would vote for the trainer over Mewtwo?
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Better throw Mudkip in there somewhere, since Mudkip is stronger than Mewtwo.
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...*raises hand*

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From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 5/17/2009 10:03:12 PM | #385
...*raises hand*

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Oh yeah, I forgot about Mudkip (probably forcibly).
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Who in their right mind would vote for the trainer over Mewtwo?

Perhaps any of the millions of people who have played G/S/C, R/S/E, or D/P/P first, or alternately someone who has not gotten far enough in R/B/Y to get to what is essentially an optional superboss?
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I would be much more likely to vote for "Red" or "Ash" than "Pokemon Trainer," personally.
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Anyway, the reason why Pokemon Trainer is a good nomination is because we have no idea whether he will be strong or weak. He could be stronger than Pikachu or slightly stronger than Nidoran F and neither would be terribly surprising.
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Him actually being stronger than Nidoran F. might be surprising. He wouldn't even have a half-decent board vote. Pokemon has a very, very deep pool of potentially strong characters but he's not on there.

Anyway, on whose match is stronger, FF7 vs. OoT - I think while FF8 is easily the strongest game in either match FF7's pack could be stronger for practical purposes due to the Final Fantasy LFF, depending on how big the LFF is. But it's up in the air, and I'd give a tentative and slight edge to OoT's pack.
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Characters that need rallies:

1) Morrigan
2) Seifer
3) Cid Highwind
4) Darth Revan
5) Pokemon Trainer
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80 minutes until FF9 get's completely embarassed by FF8, and Starcraft get's some retribution for round 1

Oh yeah!
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Starcraft is weak and will end up last.

FF8/FF9 should split around 60/40. Both will finish ahead of Starcraft, which is weak.
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I think somebody asked for vote total stats earlier, to which I shall say that I thought I already did but it looks like it didn't happen.

As far as the previous match, Super Mario 64 kept about 85% of its votes from last round, Chrono Trigger and Symphony of the Night were in the low 60s%, and Yoshi's Island was just under 30%. I'll do it for today's match as soon as the match begins.

How come nobody has suggested Brawl as a top 10 game? Even if it is weaker than Melee (which I'm wagering on at the moment), it did beastly in the first round, so yeah, Brawl has top 10 potential.

Based on the vote total analysis from last match, we can assume that both SM64 and CT will lose the same percentage of their round 2 vote total for round 3, giving the first game I had ever heard of the advantage.

I wonder what its like to be one of those mainstream gamers making a bracket who looked at the last match and thought "Super Mario 64 will beat Chrono Trigger just cuz it's so much more well known." Heh heh.

pokemon trainer...really?

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ps he sucks in brawl
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Match 41 - Bracket: MGS > MM - Vote: MGS (131/192)

Link has sucked in every version of SSB!
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FACT or FICTION:

FFVIII will break 30%

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[ FINAL FOUR ] FFVII / SMB3 / LoZ: OoT / MGS
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That would mean Starcraft and FFIX only getting like 20% combined. I'd hope not
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FICTION.

Duh.
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