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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 716

red sox 777 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:22:20 PM | message detail
Alright, 8 hours of domination coming up, followed by a brief respite in the weak weekend morning vote, and then 8 more hours of domination with the late afternoon to second night vote. Let's do this.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:22:31 PM | message detail
CT stayed pretty steady in the europe vote last time... lets hope that happens again here!

Well the Europeans had nothing to choose from, two games didn't exist and they aren't too fond of Mario and lol Lufia
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BGE2 - Today's Match: Chrono Trigger > Super Mario 64 Points: 129/184
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/15/2009 9:22:32 PM | message detail
Hmm...

Chrono Trigger (2004g) VS Castlevania: SotN (2004g)

Chrono Trigger has a strength of 45.94.
Castlevania: SotN has a strength of 22.30.

Chrono Trigger wins with 75.73% of the vote!
A win of 48,225 with 93,717 total votes cast.


And currently CT has 74% on it.
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transience | Posted 5/15/2009 9:22:33 PM | message detail
FF7/OOT/FFX/Mario 64 could be amazing. let's get this.

I'm not sold on LTTP being the #3 game. people want to put this on CT sucking, but I don't think so -- this is Mario 64 doing really well. if it can beat CT, it can beat LTTP. that's not to say it will, but it's not impossible.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 5/15/2009 9:22:43 PM | message detail
There's a big jump for CT.

This being a weekend match should help out its chances. The day vote entrant always does better than usual at the start, with more Americans still awake to vote.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/15/2009 9:23:06 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #252
CT stayed pretty steady in the europe vote last time... lets hope that happens again here!

Well the Europeans had nothing to choose from, two games didn't exist and they aren't too fond of Mario and lol Lufia


If they aren't too fond of mario, then that should help CT this match!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/15/2009 9:23:21 PM | message detail
CT did okay in Europe last round because it was up against 2 games were also never released in Europe, and Yoshi's Island.

Besides, this is Crono's day vote we're talking about. I wouldn't count Mario 64 out if it was down by 2000 votes come morning.

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creativename | Posted 5/15/2009 9:23:48 PM | message detail
Well, what do you think then? CT is just weak? Because SotN sure doesn't make it seem that way. What about 3 vs Word?

It might be possible that M64 is stronger than SMB3 (unlikely, but possible), but to say it's for sure is going way too far.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/15/2009 9:23:50 PM | message detail
After playing through FFVII, I can safely call all those "characterless" shots at Cloud simply untrue. He ain't Alyx Vance good, but he's not characterless.

Mario isn't character-less either, but compared to actual good characters, they might as well be.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/15/2009 9:24:04 PM | message detail
It is an extended night vote cuz its the weekend, though. That should only help CT.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 9:24:31 PM | message detail
Name me five (5) good characters in your factual opinion.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:24:32 PM | message detail
Hmm...

Chrono Trigger (2004g) VS Castlevania: SotN (2004g)

Chrono Trigger has a strength of 45.94.
Castlevania: SotN has a strength of 22.30.

Chrono Trigger wins with 75.73% of the vote!
A win of 48,225 with 93,717 total votes cast.


And currently CT has 74% on it.


How many times do we have to say that OoT SFF GE, therefore SotN was affected.

Using GE yesterday puts CT above FFVII.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: Chrono Trigger > Super Mario 64 Points: 129/184
red sox 777 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:24:42 PM | message detail
Well, the N64 and GC's sales were both disproportionately skewed toward America and away from Japan and Europe, so....the only thing is that Mario 64 didn't die overnight last round.
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syco_coaster | Posted 5/15/2009 9:24:48 PM | message detail

From: MyWorldIsCrono | #220
If Mario winsh ere, then theres no way CT advances next round with FF7 there. Man it has fallen


This is my bracket! Let's hope....
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Today's pick: Super Mario 64 > Chrono Trigger
meche313 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:25:00 PM | message detail
Three of my Top 15 favorite games are on this match. I'm definitely enjoying this one!

But choosing who to root for is hard. Like saying which son I like the most. I gave my vote to SM64 though.
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/15/2009 9:25:02 PM | message detail
Mario's the star of the contest so far, yet we can't give his most recent game a second chance? =)

Also, how did we not see DS-SFF? SM64DS > CTDS in terms of ports Nintendo fans wanted more, it all makes sense now.....
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:25:33 PM | message detail
Super Mario Cut!
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Mumei | Posted 5/15/2009 9:25:51 PM | message detail
because Mario is a fat plumber while Sephiroth makes fire awesome. simple.

Best write-up ever.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 9:25:52 PM | message detail
My god... it's like SM64 is taking whatever percentage he needs from Yoshi's Island.
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Xuxon | Posted 5/15/2009 9:26:01 PM | message detail
It might be possible that M64 is stronger than SMB3 (unlikely, but possible), but to say it's for sure is going way too far.

Good point. I guess I meant more "I would pick SM64 > SMB3 for sure" rather than "SM64 would definitely beat SMB3."
charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:26:07 PM | message detail
If they aren't too fond of mario, then that should help CT this match!

Not when Mario is up against something that doesn't exist.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:26:18 PM | message detail
oh wow, super mario 64 is "this" close to Chrono Trigger despite Yoshi's Island in the poll?!

Guess the contest fans are tired of Chrono Trigger it seems.....
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:26:50 PM | message detail
Mario's....seriously not dying.

I mean, SotN can only be so weak. This isn't Trigger being soft, it's all Mario.

I love it.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 9:27:05 PM | message detail
I think I called this result impossible a few hours or a day ago. Guess I've been pwned.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:27:09 PM | message detail
I'm sold on CT still being strong because it did great last round and both of these games are slaughtering Symphony. Whether we can restart talk on CT/Melee or something remains to be seen (I think so, but I want to see Melee again), but it's not looking like FFVI levels of bad.

I'm also not sold on 007 doing much to hurt Mario 64 next round after yesterday, and, even should CT win here, it would need that to happen to fend off FFVII. 007 got 33% on FFVII with two Mario games in the poll; just how high are we willing to take 007 (and SMRPG) on the big guy? I think there was LFF between the Mario games (obviously, compare Mario Kart 64 between rounds), but it didn't seem to affect GoldenEye much.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/15/2009 9:27:15 PM | message detail
Unless this ends up being really close, I don't think Yoshi's Island ends up making a difference here.

I mean, wow. Worst SFF beatdown since Link/anyone from Zelda.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/15/2009 9:27:29 PM | message detail
Name me five (5) good characters in your factual opinion.

A factual opinion doesn't make any sense. Snake is a good character, but I don't care about him. My favorite characters are Mario, Sonic, Gordon, Knuckles, and the like. I don't play games for characters though, and I tend not to remember the characters after playing the games.

I was just arguing the point about Games =/= Characters, because if that was the case, the best, most well written characters would be winning every contest.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:27:32 PM | message detail
Mario's the star of the contest so far, yet we can't give his most recent game a second chance? =)

SMG > CoD4 later this round.
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xp1337 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:27:51 PM | message detail
I mean, SotN can only be so weak.

Unless it's part of The Plan. Like how Alucard let himself drop off the map so that Pikachu could beat L-Block.
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Xuxon | Posted 5/15/2009 9:27:56 PM | message detail
My god... it's like SM64 is taking whatever percentage he needs from Yoshi's Island.

Heh. I was prepared to pity vote YI... but not after SM64 showed it had a shot at first. That's just too good to pass up!
red sox 777 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:27:57 PM | message detail
Mario wins the 00:25 update. Not too surprising, that update is often surprisingly favorable to the early vote/day characters (don't ask me to prove this, it's something I've noticed starting with Vincent/Ganon).
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/15/2009 9:28:50 PM | message detail
seems my 6-8% guess for yoshis island was about right at least!
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ZFS | Posted 5/15/2009 9:29:31 PM | message detail
SMG > CoD4 later this round

GameFAQs redeemed

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ChronicBoom | Posted 5/15/2009 9:29:32 PM | message detail
BOOM. Anyone want to still try arguing 007 > SM64?

This is a ****ing awesome result. Really hope 64 manages to take this one even if it's not looking great.

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creativename | Posted 5/15/2009 9:29:47 PM | message detail
Mario wins the 00:25 update. Not too surprising, that update is often surprisingly favorable to the early vote/day characters (don't ask me to prove this, it's something I've noticed starting with Vincent/Ganon).

You are really stretching things now :)
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__hiei__ | Posted 5/15/2009 9:29:59 PM | message detail
as i said,i'm pretty sure SoTN is holding CT back more than Yoshi's Island is Mario.

even though both of them aren't that significant.
PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:30:08 PM | message detail
I mean sure Chrono Trigger is still gonna advance, but now im not so sure about him making it past round 3 now......
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/15/2009 9:30:17 PM | message detail
Like how Alucard let himself drop off the map so that Pikachu could beat L-Block.

That is a result that I am still not fond of. I wanted L-Block to beat Pikachu.
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Majin Lou | Posted 5/15/2009 9:30:35 PM | message detail
Haha, Mario just won't die.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:30:42 PM | message detail
Ha, suck it Trigger.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/15/2009 9:30:48 PM | message detail
I'm really not liking CT here.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:30:59 PM | message detail
as i said,i'm pretty sure SoTN is holding CT back more than Yoshi's Island is Mario.

SotN and CT have nothing in common.

Come back is almost complete.
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MetricTrout | Posted 5/15/2009 9:30:59 PM | message detail
Yoshi's Island vs. Super Mario Bros. 2, who wins?

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red sox 777 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:31:02 PM | message detail
I've been meaning to point that out for several weeks now, whenever there was a close match! I just.....never quite got around to it.
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ChronicBoom | Posted 5/15/2009 9:31:47 PM | message detail
This is seriously the best result that has ever come from a match... the best mario game, and one of the best games ever getting its due.

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xp1337 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:31:59 PM | message detail
Like how Alucard let himself drop off the map so that Pikachu could beat L-Block.

That is a result that I am still not fond of. I wanted L-Block to beat Pikachu.


Second best match of that contest behind Crono/Vincent II.

And what was important there was that Alucard and The Plan wanted L-Block to lose, and so that's all L-Block could do.
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ZFS | Posted 5/15/2009 9:32:45 PM | message detail
best result more like bad result tbqh

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red sox 777 | Posted 5/15/2009 9:34:11 PM | message detail
Mario 64 is my favorite Mario game.......but if it wins here, this is the worst result since Crono/Vincent 2007.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/15/2009 9:34:35 PM | message detail
This is seriously the best result that has ever come from a match... the best mario game, and one of the best games ever getting its due.

Hell yeah! SM64 is the reason why I'm still gaming.
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