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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 715

Mac Arrowny | Posted 5/15/2009 12:13:36 PM | message detail
I can't imagine MGS4 coming close to the original. 60-40 match indirectly.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 12:14:07 PM | message detail
We should be getting the Pokemon and FFVIII/Starcraft match pics in a few hours, right?
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RockMFR 5 | Posted 5/15/2009 12:15:21 PM | message detail
GoldenEye > Brawl? No way. Brawl wins easily.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/15/2009 12:16:11 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #402
We should be getting the Pokemon and FFVIII/Starcraft match pics in a few hours, right?


Should be.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 12:17:44 PM | message detail
I'm interested to see Starcraft's picture.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 12:19:54 PM | message detail
Zelda's best bet is hoping for both Pokemon games to get similar black and white pictures while it gets a cool Link pic. Starcraft's best bet is probably to hope for a goofy FFVIII and awesome Vivi picture.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 5/15/2009 12:20:13 PM | message detail
I have no faith in newer games beating older, established games. They just don't have comparable fanbases, imo.

Nostalgia is a huge force in these contests, and new games do not have that. That's why I can see Goldeneye easily beating MGS4 (unless fanbase votes kills it, but I don't think that would happen here), and Goldeneye beating SSBB (fanbase votes might push SSBB over Goldeneye though).
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/15/2009 12:21:45 PM | message detail
but aww man if Yoshis Island gets like 6% here, imagine how bad lufia is gonna look on final stats

Lufia's number is based on CT, not Yoshi's Island.

But it's going to look bad anyway. It only got like 7% on CT last round.

As for the games...

MGS
MGS4
GE
CoD4
HL2
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 12:21:53 PM | message detail
FFVII's ASV isn't looking good here. Goldeneye might be able to break the doubling before the night vote.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/15/2009 12:22:02 PM | message detail
I want to see mass carriers facing down Master Chief, Sora, and Link. It'd be terribly unfair, but how could anyone who followed the 2004 contest not vote for Starcraft?
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/15/2009 12:24:54 PM | message detail
The final x-stats lists for 4-ways are quite honestly worse than my v-stats from yesterday. X-stats remain useful when extrapolating through a small number of matches where common sense says that they are applicable, but the final extrapolated standings have been unmitigated disasters both of the last 2 years.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 12:25:15 PM | message detail
Never mind. Goldeneye isn't doing much with this ASV, either.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/15/2009 12:26:58 PM | message detail
Yeah, Mario RPG and Mario Kart are the ones rocking the ASV here, as expected.
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Meeks54 | Posted 5/15/2009 12:27:27 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #409
FFVII's ASV isn't looking good here. Goldeneye might be able to break the doubling before the night vote.




OoT vs FF VII trends are going to be some of the craziest things ever this time.

I could see them both getting 60% updates in the deep night vote and ASV respectively.


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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/15/2009 12:28:34 PM | message detail
60% updates? That's not going to happen.

Oh, you mean on each other by direct comparison? I'm not sure that happens either unless it's just a blowout.
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/15/2009 12:30:23 PM | message detail
I could see them both getting 60% updates in the deep night vote and ASV respectively.

FFVII may pull 60% updates overnight, but OOT isn't getting 60% updates during the ASV unless it wins by a big margin. There are way too many votes in the ASV for OOT to dominate it that much and the match to still be close.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/15/2009 12:30:55 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #415
60% updates? That's not going to happen.

Oh, you mean on each other by direct comparison? I'm not sure that happens either unless it's just a blowout.


Deep night vote is brutal for Zelda, and is awesome for FF7. I can see it happening there.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/15/2009 12:31:25 PM | message detail
If FFVII is getting 60% updates overnight, OoT won't win.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 12:32:04 PM | message detail
I just want to see a FFVII/OoT post-final match, but I know we never will. Bacon probably worries that it'll ruin the integrity of the contest if Ocarina can reverse the result.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/15/2009 12:32:22 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #418
If FFVII is getting 60% updates overnight, OoT won't win.


It probably wouldn't, though.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 12:33:31 PM | message detail
If FFVII is getting 60% updates overnight, OoT won't win.

Final Fantasy got one or two 60%+ updates on Zelda in the series contest. Regardless, I know you're thankful that LttP will be there! Quiver!
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red sox 777 | Posted 5/15/2009 12:33:52 PM | message detail
Tifa got 60% updates on Samus, I believe. Zack got a 57% hour on Mario. So FFVII can get a few 60% updates in the dead zone and still lose.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 5/15/2009 12:40:53 PM | message detail
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/15/2009 1:21:11 PM | message detail
Regardless, I know you're thankful that LttP will be there! Quiver!

I have Mario 3 and FFX there, just so you know.
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Meeks54 | Posted 5/15/2009 1:22:34 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #424
Regardless, I know you're thankful that LttP will be there! Quiver!

I have Mario 3 and FFX there, just so you know.




Which 190% locks it up for OoT.

But, you also have an impossibility. As even with LoZ in the poll, SMB 3 is not touching ALttP. Especially if ALttP just managed to do the impossible and go ALttP>FF VII.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/15/2009 1:26:41 PM | message detail
As even with LoZ in the poll, SMB 3 is not touching ALttP.

Considering Mario 3 was projected to get 48% on LTTP in 2004 based on a direct match with Chrono Trigger, I see nothing impossible about this.

But I'm not going to argue with you because it's pointless.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 1:28:21 PM | message detail
I have...

LoZ
SMB3
FFVII
LoZ: LttP

FFVII > SMB3 doesn't seem so bad, especially when SMB3 is not that far off.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 5/15/2009 1:29:57 PM | message detail
But LttP SFFs Mario 3 so even with Zelda 1 there in the poll it doesn't matter GOD
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/15/2009 1:31:12 PM | message detail
Mario 3 and LTTP split pretty evenly, I'd imagine, and LOZ obviously takes more votes away from LTTP than from Mario 3.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 1:34:04 PM | message detail
But LttP SFFs Mario 3 so even with Zelda 1 there in the poll it doesn't matter GOD

Why would there be SFF?
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 5/15/2009 1:36:43 PM | message detail
NES LFF > Zelda LFF, so SMB3 gets hurt just as much as LttP does...

...but LoZ's never going to advance over SMB1 anyway, so that's irrelevant.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/15/2009 1:38:02 PM | message detail
NES LFF > Zelda LFF, so SMB3 gets hurt just as much as LttP does...

That's a load and you know it. FFI and FFIV aren't on the same system. Are you saying FFIV overlaps more with Mario World than it does with FFI?

And LoZ can advance over Mario 1 because there's going to be a little game called Mario 3 there.
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 5/15/2009 1:41:44 PM | message detail
Of course not, since those are from different companies. But I wouldn't be surprised to see FFVI overlap more with Chrono Trigger than with FFVII.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 5/15/2009 1:43:34 PM | message detail
Both of those games are going to pulverize FFVI anyway, so there's going to be no way to tell.

I'd still say there's no reason to think Same Series LFF isn't the worst.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 1:56:14 PM | message detail
NES LFF > Zelda LFF, so SMB3 gets hurt just as much as LttP does...

What? Same console SFF is not stronger than same series SFF

...but LoZ's never going to advance over SMB1 anyway, so that's irrelevant.

SMB3 is going to crush SMB1 so badly it won't be funny.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 5/15/2009 1:57:32 PM | message detail
I think FF1/FF4 basically proved that Same Series SFF/LFF is the worst (which should've been common knowledge, regardless). It was the exception, not the norm, but...damn.

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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 2:05:45 PM | message detail
Mario Kart 64's ASV is crazy
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Mac Arrowny | Posted 5/15/2009 2:09:17 PM | message detail
Well, I'm saying that it's stronger when you combine it with another type of LFF. Same console + same company > just same series. I'd also expect way more overlap between LttP and Super Metroid than Super Metroid and Metroid Prime. Several different types of SFF/LFF coming together should have the biggest impact.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 2:16:18 PM | message detail
Super Metroid and Metroid Prime wouldn't have as much SFF because they are not on the same console, it's because they are a different genre in which different people enjoy. There is nothing separating LttP and LoZ besides a console.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 2:44:04 PM | message detail
Good thing FF4 is gonna be there and render this whole debate low volumed, huh guys.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 5/15/2009 2:49:02 PM | message detail
Yeah, look how bad that triple Nintendo LFF is today. Clearly GoldenEye would be beating FFVII if it wasn't for the two Mario games!
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/15/2009 2:51:37 PM | message detail
I'd like to think LoZ holds up decently, at least better than FF1 held up to FF2/4. I definitely think the original LoZ means a lot more to LoZ-fans than the original FF does to FF-fans... but then again, LoZ-fans care a lot more about LoZ:LttP than FF-fans care about FF2/4 and it's the definitive 2D-LoZ game. Also, with SMB3 in there, that will complicate things for the NES-fans LoZ needs to stand strong at all there.

LoZ should hold up since it's got its own fans, but LoZ:LttP and SMB3 are both Top Five games that will limit LoZ quite a bit...so, I dunno. I'll fear the worst and hope for the best for LoZ; it could go either way, but I think you gotta assume LoZ gets crushed badly.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 2:59:05 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised if LoZ easily failed to get 10% in FFVII/SMB3/LttP/LoZ
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transients | Posted 5/15/2009 3:05:07 PM | message detail
FF1's a lot closer to FF4 than Z1 is to LTTP, so I'd expect Zelda 1 to suffer more.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 3:05:15 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised if LoZ easily failed to get 10% in FFVII/SMB3/LttP/LoZ

Same. LttP will do to LoZ what Mario 3 would do to Mario 1 (meaning ugly things). Heck, LoZ doesn't even have the same "I saved the industry" advantage that Mario 1 does, so it might get ravaged worse.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 5/15/2009 3:06:57 PM | message detail
Is it just me or is FF7 not doing as well as expected?
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 3:12:36 PM | message detail
Is it just me or is FF7 not doing as well as expected?

It's doing about expected
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/15/2009 3:13:31 PM | message detail
It's doing about as expected, but a bit lower than where I pegged it. Nothing major, but...

TRUE or FALSE: Ocarina of Time matches this percentage.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 5/15/2009 3:14:02 PM | message detail
False.
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charmander6000 | Posted 5/15/2009 3:16:52 PM | message detail
Probably not, but if Starcraft is going to advance OoT will be breaking 50%...
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