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What's "everything else"? How often have we seen scenarios like this?

Other SFF/LFF cases, while the stronger game is weakened it's never weakened to the point that Starcraft needs to win.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVII > GoldenEye 007 Points: 121/176

Oh, and FFVII barely had 51% at the end of the Power Hour last round, so yeah, it's going to go way up.
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From: charmander6000 | #191
OoT is much more likely to SFF another japanese game then an american PC game.

You seem to forget that Asia hates Zelda while North America loves it, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.

and that means what? ToS was the only japanese game against american games and it did WORSE in asia then america.
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FFVIII is still the favorite, of course. But Starcraft has hope again, after FF1/4. And the past 2 years have showed us that Lopen's anti-establishment vote is real- it usually doesn't show up until the later rounds, but it is real.
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and that means what? ToS was the only japanese game against american games and it did WORSE in asia then america.

So do we agree that where the game is made makes no difference then? Since games need similar trends to have any notable overlap.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVII > GoldenEye 007 Points: 121/176

No, he's right, consider an analogous case: FFVII vs. OOT vs. CT vs. Starcraft in the final. Which game stands out there?

Hold that match tomorrow and Starcraft maybe gets an extremely distant 3rd.
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Starcraft won't be able to do a thing against competition that strong, but its match in a few days is clearly a different case. The fact that FFVIII did what it did despite Xenogears there gives me hope, as does the fact that Final Fantasy IX pulled off an easy win in a surprisingly similar position (another PS1 Square RPG overlapping it, a beloved PC game as the opponent, and Ocarina there to play judge). I do consider FFVIII the favorite, but there's no way I'm calling that match safe.
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Are we still debating Starcraft here?

That game is fodder. Just because it was strong in 2004 does not mean it cannot be horribly weak right now. Things have changed.
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I'm not calling it a lock by any means either. I'm mostly trying to reassure myself when I make these arguments!
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FFVIII is still the favorite, of course. But Starcraft has hope again, after FF1/4. And the past 2 years have showed us that Lopen's anti-establishment vote is real- it usually doesn't show up until the later rounds, but it is real.

Show me a case where the stronger game/character was weakened that much besides FF1/4.

Though if Starcraft pulls it off I'm starting the LttP > FFVII train.
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From: charmander6000 | #205
and that means what? ToS was the only japanese game against american games and it did WORSE in asia then america.

So do we agree that where the game is made makes no difference then? Since games need similar trends to have any notable overlap.

Regardless of where people live, people have prefrences of the games they like. Many people enjoy japanese games over american, or american over japanese. So people who prefer japanese made games are more likely to be fans of both OoT and FF8, then OoT and SC.
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How Asia votes is meaningless, considering it makes up like 2% of votes. Within America, however, there are people who prefer Japanese-made games and people who prefer Western-made games. That's pretty obvious.
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Discussing OoT SFFing FF8 is borderline stupid when FF9 is in the freakin' match.
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Starcraft's greatest argument is that Ocarina is going to dominate that match, giving it a chance. its worst argument is this "PC game doesn't overlap with anything!!" argument, because we already saw how that treated Half-Life.
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Strangely enough, GTA does very well in Asia.
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I am a fan of OoT and SC. And I doubt I'm alone.
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Today's pick: FFVII > Goldeneye

I'm starting the LttP > FFVII train.

This train was started long ago.
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Why does my argument not even get the dignity of a response.

You people are going to call SFF but look into your heart it's pure HATE
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FFVII over 42% now.
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How Asia votes is meaningless, considering it makes up like 2% of votes. Within America, however, there are people who prefer Japanese-made games and people who prefer Western-made games. That's pretty obvious

I don't see it, you could make a case about genres, but made in different countries is pushing it. Are there a notable amount of people that won't play a game because it wasn't made in Japan?
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Wait, is there not a LttP > FFVII train yet? If not, I'm claiming that one right now!
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You people are going to call SFF but look into your heart it's pure HATE

Yes, for StarCraft!
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Why are we continuing this dumb country argument.
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FFVIII is still the favorite, of course. But Starcraft has hope again, after FF1/4. And the past 2 years have showed us that Lopen's anti-establishment vote is real- it usually doesn't show up until the later rounds, but it is real.

And Mega Man 3 was totally able to take advantage of that.
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This train was started long ago.

I'm calling it a lock though.
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darn you europe
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Starcraft fights for a cause.

To eradicate the SeeDs of oppression. Join today.
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From: charmander6000 | #220
How Asia votes is meaningless, considering it makes up like 2% of votes. Within America, however, there are people who prefer Japanese-made games and people who prefer Western-made games. That's pretty obvious

I don't see it, you could make a case about genres, but made in different countries is pushing it. Are there a notable amount of people that won't play a game because it wasn't made in Japan?

You're saying you don't understand some people prefer japanese games over western and vice versa? Seriously?
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I don't see it, you could make a case about genres, but made in different countries is pushing it. Are there a notable amount of people that won't play a game because it wasn't made in Japan?

No, it really is a genre thing. But there are no western made JRPGs, or at least, none that I can think of, and basically no Japanese made FPS games or WRPGs, so it often does divide along country lines.
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You're saying you don't understand some people prefer japanese games over western and vice versa? Seriously?

Sure, but really it's not notable. Besides some freaks who love all things Japan I don't see it being that great.
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Oh hey, I missed it. The Sox acknowledged my theory I feel vindicated.

While I do agree that it usually doesn't show up until later rounds, this PURE Zelda/FF poll will be it in its rawest form. There is no Snake to split with L-Block and no Crono to split with Snake. Hatecraft in its purest form.
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No, it really is a genre thing. But there are no western made JRPGs, or at least, none that I can think of, and basically no Japanese made FPS games or WRPGs, so it often does divide along country lines.

Then why are we arguing countries when this is clearly a genre debate?
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just this board is evidence enough. This board is kinda biased towards japanese games over western games. You don't see as much talk about games like GTA and FPS as you do japanese games
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This might sound like a strange idea to some, but I'm fairly certain that for "rallying" to work, there has to be "rallying."

I'm not seeing much in the way of pre-match hype / rallying, so I just don't expect to see it as much of a factor. If it wins, it'll be because of a fanbase split between FFVIII and IX. It won't be because of a snowballing effect (that would require, again, some sort of awareness beyond this topic that SC is in a match soon, and has an absurdly slim chance and a desire to make that happen), or rallying.

Let's discuss something more interesting now. <_<

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FFX > OoT > FFVII book it!

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just this board is evidence enough. This board is kinda biased towards japanese games over western games. You don't see as much talk about games like GTA and FPS as you do japanese games

Like I told Red Sox this is more of a genre debate than region.
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Then why are we arguing countries when this is clearly a genre debate?

because the match is over and Albion wants to argue!

FF7 pulling in nice updates now. I'm hesitant on it going *too* big, but 45-46% looks good.
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Then why are we arguing countries when this is clearly a genre debate?

You are correct.

But the better question is why are you guys arguing this at all.
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Whoa. Mario Kart 64 completely sucking here. Nice to see SMRPG holding up.

FFVII's not doing too bad so long as it can go up a few points from here.

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But the better question is why are you guys arguing this at all.

I want to fill this page so I can go to bed and start off on a new page.

>_>
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I want to fill this page so I can go to bed and start off on a new page.

Optimus Prime
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And FFVII goes over 62% on GE as the Power Hour ends.

It only gets worse from here if you're not FFVII!
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And as I said that the topic dies.

GoldenEye just fell below 38%
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Well, here's my stand on StarCraft's match. That match has my favorite to win the whole contest, though there are 15 other games that I wouldn't be upset if they beat Ocarina of Time and won (and yes Final Fantasy VII is one of them).

StarCraft will not be beating Final Fantasy VIII. I will delve into the one thing I like looking at most, vote totals. StarCraft had 34k votes, and Final Fantasy VIII had 52k. Yeah, doesn't look like any SFF will be able to turn that around. I think StarCraft will be able to beat Vivi's game, but whatever.

BTW there are two tiers for games so far IMO. Tier 1 is the games that deserve to win, which I've already posted. So here are the games that are in tier 2, and it's a lot! Tier 2 is "Very, Very, Very Great Game, but contest victory is pushing it." If any of these games beat each other, I wouldn't mind a whole lot.

Mega Man 2
The Legend of Zelda
Civilization
Sonic the Hedgehog
Street Fighter II
Final Fantasy IV
Super Mario Kart
DOOM
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Super Mario RPG
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
EarthBound
Yoshi's Island
Pokemon Red/Blue
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantays VIII
StarCraft
Half-Life
Final Fantasy X
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Kingdom Hearts
Metroid Prime
Grand Theft Auto III
Halo
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Zelda: Wind Waker
God of War
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Oblivion
Metal Gear Solid 3
Okami
World of Warcraft
Gears of War
Shadow of the Colossus
Zelda: Twilight Princess
Grand Theft Auto IV
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Call of Duty 4
BioShock
LittleBigPlanet
Metal Gear Solid 4
Fallout 3

This is also the most votes we've had at the end of the Power Hour since Brawl's match, by the way.
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FFVII always brings in the votes, even when Cloud goes on to lose to Link. It just took last round off for some reason.
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Those FFVII haters really like to show up and vote early.
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Not to mention that a lot more cheating/proxy prevention methods are in place now.

Not to mention you can't even vote stuff using multiple accounts anymore. I heard from Ulti that this has been in place since the 2007 character battle. I've tested this out on a non-contest poll before. I tested it out on the April Fool's Day poll, where I tried to vote stuff for the invisible poll option. I did the testing overnight when the invisible poll option was getting 0-1 vote updates. Even though I could stuff about 20-25 votes during a 5 minute period, the invisible poll option was still pulling off its standard 0-1 vote updates, showing that my votes weren't going through at all. The fact that you can't vote stuff with multiple accounts anymore could probably explain why Bacon hasn't once removed cheat votes or posted a topic explaining whether or not there was cheating in a close match.
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FF7 should break 45% with ease at this rate.
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And FFVII with its biggest update of the match so far.

Night vote time.
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