GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 715
red sox 777 | Posted 5/13/2009 10:13:22 PM | message detail |
Let's mosey. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories (Thanks to Raven 2 for the info transfer)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. LFF (Leech Fanbase Factor) - A common issue in four-way polls, where two entrants of the same fanbase leech one another's strength and make each other weaker. This is the main factor currently discussed in stat topics, since four-ways look like they're here to stay. The earliest example we have of this is Arthas/Diablo leeching each other half to death and letting KOS-MOS sneak into second place back in 2007. SFF still happens now and again, but LFF is just as huge these days. Last Place Factor - A huge issue in four-way contests where an entrant having no expected chance to advance in the poll does far worse than past strength dictates. A lot of these entrants are naturally weak, but a lot of things come along that make little to no sense. A great example is Zero -- he scored 47% on Crono and won several updates, then one round later he gets disproportionally blown out once Link enters the picture. This factor also works in reverse, when an obvious first place game does worse than expected thanks to smart voters helping a game come in second place. The final of 2008 is a good example of this, where Snake stayed even with Link until the day vote and ultimately defeated Cloud. (Credit to red sox 777 and Leonhart4 for the examples) For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. Hochi's League of Excellence™ Hochiminh Black Turtle Nintendogirl Karma Hunter Kleenex Leonhart Ultimaterializer ZFS Lopen Yoblazer Harrich --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 5/14/2009 8:05:01 AM | message detail |
Tagalicious --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´`·.,¸¸,.·´ "You are the king of derailing topics, by the way." -Lucid |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/14/2009 10:12:44 AM | message detail |
I'm-a Luigi! Number one! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 5/14/2009 6:43:50 PM | message detail |
In all seriousness, can we delete that hochi thing now? --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/14/2009 8:31:00 PM | message detail |
I'm all for getting rid of it! --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/14/2009 8:39:51 PM | message detail |
Play Skies of Arcadia --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/14/2009 8:40:25 PM | message detail |
You need a majority to get rid of that, find six people and it shall be done. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/14/2009 8:40:56 PM | message detail |
hi guys --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/14/2009 8:42:32 PM | message detail |
New rule If you post "Play *insert game here, as in actually inserting the game not typing insert game here you ninny* then everyone must play that game. To completion. Even if you've played it before! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/14/2009 8:43:55 PM | message detail |
What happens if you don't own the game? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/14/2009 8:45:43 PM | message detail |
Then you buy/'find' it. Rules are rules. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/14/2009 8:46:32 PM | message detail |
Starting with Skies of Arcadia. And ending there. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/14/2009 8:46:56 PM | message detail |
I can allow this. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/14/2009 8:47:00 PM | message detail |
We should make a topic following everyone's progress. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168 |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/14/2009 8:47:03 PM | message detail |
Hochi's
list got its laugh, let's take it off. We great ones don't have to
announce our greatness to others so openly (even if BT does)! Gotta agree with the idea that SM64 needs SMRPG to win for the best chance to compete with CT. The SNES RPG-fanbase will mean more when it's split after FF7 is already taking so many votes, and Mario's probably associated less with RPGs than racing. It also keeps the Mario titles on different systems, a potential edge MK64 and GE don't have. I don't think SM64 gets close enough to challenge CT in R3 despite whoever advances, though...at least not yet. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
Applekidjosh | Posted 5/14/2009 8:47:08 PM | message detail |
what is the hochi thing anyway? --- I seem to have prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, and now I have a bit of a mess on my hands |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/14/2009 8:48:54 PM | message detail |
I
don't expect Mario 64 to touch Chrono Trigger. I mean, it 60/40'd Mario
World. How much stronger do you think Mario 64 is than that? And whatever drop CT may have had since then appears to be minor, at least for now. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
ZFS | Posted 5/14/2009 8:49:57 PM | message detail |
I
wouldn't be worried about CT failing to advance in round 3, unless it
gives a reason to think it's vulnerable in the next couple of days. --- a metal slime appears |
creativename | Posted 5/14/2009 8:51:52 PM | message detail |
I
wonder if being with another somewhat-Square RPG, other Nintendo games,
as well as maybe last place factor will combine to make SMRPG look
pretty bad here. --- gamefaqscontests.com gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/14/2009 8:51:59 PM | message detail |
Just wondering, Super Mario World or Super Mario 64? Super Mario 64 for me. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168 |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/14/2009 8:52:42 PM | message detail |
ya'll ready for an epic goldeneye collapse --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/14/2009 8:52:53 PM | message detail |
There's no such thing as last place factor and if there was it won't happen here. Super Mario RPG is not outclassed here. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/14/2009 8:53:13 PM | message detail |
Goldeneye has Oddjob on its side. Good luck even hitting that jerk! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/14/2009 8:53:34 PM | message detail |
Super
Mario RPG is too strong to get Last Place Factor'd, I think, if there
is such a thing. It may get SFF'd, but that's another story. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/14/2009 8:53:52 PM | message detail |
Oh, and Mario World > Mario 64 here --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
HaRRicH | Posted 5/14/2009 8:54:56 PM | message detail |
Albion, you're just mad my pic wasn't DQ'ed like you kept ranting about. I'll take SM64 > SMW to be the second strongest SMB game. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
transience | Posted 5/14/2009 8:55:49 PM | message detail |
I've got a good feeling about Mario Kart here. --- yzzyx |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/14/2009 8:55:56 PM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #026 no im just mad that goldeneye sucks and is unplayable nowadays compared to mario rpg, which is still a great game --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/14/2009 8:56:35 PM | message detail |
Hah - if anything, Mario RPG is unplayable compared to the Paper Mario series. Goldeneye at leats has nostalgia! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/14/2009 8:57:46 PM | message detail |
How is GoldenEye unplayable? It's about as playable as any game that existed back then. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168 |
transience | Posted 5/14/2009 8:57:57 PM | message detail |
everything from this era is unplayable! --- xyzzy http://www.mistwalkercorp.com/en/_src/sc569/HNI_0022.jpg |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 5/14/2009 8:58:25 PM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #030 duel analog is how you play consoel fps now. goldeneye just isn't playable anymore. I played it for the first time in like 2003 or 2004, after being used to Halo and such, and I just couldn't play it, it was so bad now --- http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/blue2/Albion%20Hero.jpg http://img2.gelbooru.com/images/34/14a0c4231b6fe6e9657190b033e368594f4a462c.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/14/2009 8:58:43 PM | message detail |
everything from this era is unplayable! Attack while the tail is up! --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/14/2009 8:59:28 PM | message detail |
Pft FFVII with its lego blocks has better artistic style, and therefore graphics, than 90% of modern games. --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
AmazingKirby | Posted 5/14/2009 8:59:38 PM | message detail |
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HaRRicH | Posted 5/14/2009 8:59:56 PM | message detail |
I
think GE's still playable, Halo just shifted a lot of FPS's control
styles from 2001 onward and everyone could get used to GE again after
that. --- Prototype Shorthand, do you speak it?! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/14/2009 9:00:17 PM | message detail |
GoldenEye 007 20% 1 Super Mario RPG 20% 1 Final Fantasy VII 20% 1 Mario Kart 64 40% 2 TOTAL VOTES 5 Aw yeah, I put Mario Kart 64 in the lead! --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
Mr3790 | Posted 5/14/2009 9:00:22 PM | message detail |
GoldenEye 007 41.67% 5 Super Mario RPG 8.33% 1 Final Fantasy VII 16.67% 2 Mario Kart 64 33.33% 4 TOTAL VOTES 12 GE! --- AC:WW Code: Name:Mr.378 Town:Darkcity FC: 4210-5769-8462 GENO WHIRL! |
Master Moltar | Posted 5/14/2009 9:00:23 PM | message detail |
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh goldeneye --- Moltar Status: complete global saturation Match 39 - Bracket: FF7 > GE - Vote: Goldeneye (119/176) |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 5/14/2009 9:00:29 PM | message detail |
watch out for Pierce Brosnan --- Today's prediction: Zolom 48.01% - Pierce Brosnan 21.30% - I'm-a Wario 15.70% - SMRPG 14.99% Status: |
transience | Posted 5/14/2009 9:00:35 PM | message detail |
hey, not bad Goldeneye. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com//chewing.jpg |
TheOceIot | Posted 5/14/2009 9:00:36 PM | message detail |
GoldenEye 007 34.15% 42 Super Mario RPG 12.2% 15 Final Fantasy VII 33.33% 41 Mario Kart 64 20.33% 25 TOTAL VOTES 123 --- http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p245/ThEVeGSaVaGe/fliegetn0.gif Currently Playing: Deus Ex, Suikoden Tierkreis, GTA: Chinatown Wars |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/14/2009 9:00:41 PM | message detail |
Oh man, FFVII's board vote is a classic --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
MnMZero | Posted 5/14/2009 9:00:44 PM | message detail |
lol FFVII board vote --- Currently playing: GTAIV, SSBB, MP3, Apollo Justice, FFIVDS, Dracula X |
KamikazePotato | Posted 5/14/2009 9:00:50 PM | message detail |
Golden Gun'd --- http://thengamer.com/guru/ |
red sox 777 | Posted 5/14/2009 9:00:55 PM | message detail |
GoldenEye 007 32.2% 19 Super Mario RPG 11.86% 7 Final Fantasy VII 32.2% 19 Mario Kart 64 23.73% 14 TOTAL VOTES 59 Let's go FFVII --- Link he come to town to win the Gamefaqs Contests. |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/14/2009 9:01:17 PM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3483®ion=GB Sonic 2 > LA --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVII > GoldenEye 007 Points: 121/176 |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 5/14/2009 9:01:30 PM | message detail |
hmm... MK64 bombing instead of SMRPG? --- Today's prediction: Zolom 48.01% - Pierce Brosnan 21.30% - I'm-a Wario 15.70% - SMRPG 14.99% Status: |
LeonhartFour | Posted 5/14/2009 9:01:37 PM | message detail |
Man, GoldenEye totally makes up for last round's meh performance. FFVII will obviously skyrocket from here though. Disappointed in MK64 here though. --- http://www.court-records.net/animation/phoenix-superobjection.gif |
charmander6000 | Posted 5/14/2009 9:01:50 PM | message detail |
I thought MK64 would be doing better Also lol FFVII's board vote. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/BGE2%20BOP.xls BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVII > GoldenEye 007 Points: 121/176 |