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Before I bring up vote total stats, I'll voice myself on some issues.

First of all is how Super Mario Kart still lost to Super Metroid. One option that sound *very* good is that Mario Kart is very SFF-prone for some reason, and it makes sense considering who the franchise's opponent was back in the series contest. The other thing is that this site doesn't care a whole lot about racing games, and as soon as a very popular game came in, Mario Kart collapsed, while the small hardcore Metroid fanbase came in and rescued the 6th best game ever from a loss. Or one could say that Mario Kart was losing votes to Donkey Kong Country. And this could be another case of "Same Year SFF." One thing that I find ironic is that if sales decided popularity on this site, then Donkey Kong Country > Super Mario Kart > Zelda 3 > Super Metroid (and according to Wikipedia, Super Metroid didn't even sell a million copies, and it is the only game ever to get a Player's Choice award based on critical acclaim rather than sales. It must be noted though that Super Metroid was the best-selling virtual console game for a short while, though).

Second is whether Super Mario Kart is stronger than Mario Kart 64. Hm, Super Mario Kart had 41k votes in round 1 while Mario Kart 64 had 30k votes. Could that answer the question? Though MK64 did have to split votes with SF64. On the other hand though, we've seen that the progenitors of lower-tier game series generally do better than their sequels (e.g. Sonic 1, DKC1, though RE2 did have a higher vote total than RE1, but RE1 had to deal with another PS1 game while RE2 was the only non-Nintendo title in its match).

Vote total stats will be arriving sometime today, along with my prediction for the next match.

Second is whether Super Mario Kart is stronger than Mario Kart 64. Hm, Super Mario Kart had 41k votes in round 1 while Mario Kart 64 had 30k votes. Could that answer the question? Though MK64 did have to split votes with SF64. On the other hand though, we've seen that the progenitors of lower-tier game series generally do better than their sequels (e.g. Sonic 1, DKC1, though RE2 did have a higher vote total than RE1, but RE1 had to deal with another PS1 game while RE2 was the only non-Nintendo title in its match).


Okay, I can't take it anymore. Mario Kart 64 went up against freakin' Final Fantasy VII. WTF did you think its vote totals would be? Meanwhile, Super Mario Kart was right there neck and neck for the strongest game in its match. Of course its gonna have more votes! I mean, if you want to do that, why don't you look at SMK's vote total against LttP in the second round. Oops, look like Mario Kart 64 has more votes now (not like any of this matters in the first place)!

*Flying Knee Kicks you off the screen* pshew
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I have to agree vote totals only work when the competition of both games are equal. I'm pretty sure Final Fantasy VII would get over 50% on Super Metroid, Sonic 3, Gunstar Heroes alone.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168

augh... why did I think Sonic would get 21.5, again?
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Today's prediction: Mog 35.67% - Awakening 27.96% - Sonic 2 21.54% - Mortal Kombat 14.83%
Status: mediocre, again

I have little doubt Twilight Princess beats Link's Awakening in a direct match.

By the way, S&K > All other Sonics

That's right, JUST Sonic & Knuckles is stronger than the rest!
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It's also rather impressive that FFVI and LA don't end up far off their percentages from last round despite the fact that Sonic 2 + MKII > MMX + PSIV

I just don't understand why Sonic's games are so unpopular though. I thought they were well liked.
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LA may end up pretty much exactly where it was in round 1.

FF6 is definitely going to be a bit lower though
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Wow, the fact that Mega Man X is more popular than Sonic 2 feels weird for someone who grew up in the SEGA generation. Sonic used to be up there with Mario in the 90's. Maybe not as popular, but you could certainly mention him in the same breath. Now he's not even as popular as Mega Man, another series losing ground. And it's not like Mega Man ever was anything better than 2nd tier. Donkey Kong Country really should get more love too.

First time seeing today's results, funny to see how much stronger MMX is than Sonic 2. I figured those 2 would be close in strength before the contest and would have a close match today.

Damn you Zelda.

And I'm really tempted to put LinkMarioSamus on ignore just for the sheer ignorance of his posts.

Obviously MK64 is going to have less votes when you look at the competition.

Nobody cares about vote totals since they tell us NOTHING USEFUL.

Get it, NOTHING USEFUL, a term which describes EVERY POST YOU'VE MADE IN THESE TOPICS.

From: MnMZero | #352
Okay, I can't take it anymore. Mario Kart 64 went up against freakin' Final Fantasy VII. WTF did you think its vote totals would be?

Don't worry about him. He's either a troll or a bot at this point. Just act like he's not there.
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BGE2 - Today: FFVI > MMX - Points: 124 Vote: Sonic 2

@charmander6000: Wrong. According to the x-stats Final Fantasy VII scores 65.39% on Super Metroid, which isn't exactly a doubling, is it? Also, Super Metroid managed about 41k votes while Final Fantasy VII scored about (and this is VERY rough, as I don't remember exactly) 75k votes. That doesn't suggest a doubling. FFVII would break 40% on that pack, but 50%? I seriously doubt it.

As for the Sonic connundrum, I'm of the opinion that all pre-3D games have an overlap of some sort.

Mario World was hurting SF2 just as bad as it was hurting Sonic. Once games reach a certain age, they've been so widely played that it's hard to argue against a near universal SFF. We saw it all through round 1 and round 2 that older games don't SFF like newer ones do.

You mean X-stats where Super Metroid was given a completely arbitrary boost?
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From: Wii_TuRtLe | #360
And I'm really tempted to put LinkMarioSamus on ignore just for the sheer ignorance of his posts.

oh snap, If we all took this approach you'd have zero people reading your posts.
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@charmander6000: Wrong. According to the x-stats Final Fantasy VII scores 65.39% on Super Metroid, which isn't exactly a doubling, is it? Also, Super Metroid managed about 41k votes while Final Fantasy VII scored about (and this is VERY rough, as I don't remember exactly) 75k votes. That doesn't suggest a doubling. FFVII would break 40% on that pack, but 50%? I seriously doubt it.

65.39% is not under 50% so I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Super Metroid is the only thing stopping the three-pack from going below 50% against Final Fantasy VII. Also with Star Fox 64 and Suikoden, I don't think there's much argument to which three-pack was stronger.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168

Yeah, you can't reach an x-stats conclusion on Super Metroid, wtf. It had an SFF beat down and one other match against PS4.

Though if you really wanted to create stats somehow, you can take PS4's performance in this contest and use its performance against FF6 to compare against its performance against Super Metroid from 2004. Although doing that I believe gives 2009 FF6 a 73% victory over 2004 Super Metroid. That's not exactly a number I'd believe anytime soon
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Mortal Kombat 2 > Super Metroid (since Sonic 2 is SFFing MK2) let's do this.
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Vote totals only really work against equal competition, but whatever floats your boat.
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OMG you guys.

According to the unadjust stats, FF6 gets ~73% on Super Metroid in 2004.

No SFF in LttP Vs. Super Metroid confirmed
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Heck, look at Metroid Prime vs. Wind Waker, and how the Metroid franchise has done so far compared to the series contest, and Samus vs. Link.

Obviously Metroid never gets SFFed by Zelda!
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OMG you guys.

According to the unadjust stats, FF6 gets ~73% on Super Metroid in 2004.

No SFF in LttP Vs. Super Metroid confirmed

Which would explain why SM/SMK stayed constant despite other Nintendo games.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168

Okay, as far as the people who want to put me on ignore, well, vote totals tell me a whole lot. Without them, I wouldn't have called Sonic 1's match right. Further more, I've read every explanation about every contest match, and it made me seem like vote totals were to be focused on more than percentages, and they more or less tell strength. And the analysis I'm about to do now helps me to know how much SFF/LFF an entrant suffers.

Super Metroid's vote total was about 50.86% of its vote total in round 1.
Super Mario Kart's vote total was about 50.92% of its vote total in round 1.
Zelda: A Link to the Past's vote total was about 84.28% of its vote total in round 1.
Donkey Kong Country's vote total was about 61.43% of its vote total in round 1.

God, Super Metroid and Mario Kart are looking absolutely pathetic. If there were any doubts on whether Mario Kart (and Metroid, of course) is (are) SFF-prone (or, if nothing else, casual bait that gets dropped when more casual bait comes in), they've ended here. Meanwhile, A Link to the Past was very good at keeping its vote totals this round, something telling me that it could still take first even with Final Fantasy VI next round (especially given that Link's Awakening is likely weaker than Super Mario Kart). Donkey Kong Country did about average here.


1. Super Mario World
2. Zelda: A Link to the Past
3. Super Mario Bros. 3
4. Super Mario Bros.
5. The Legend of Zelda
6. Tetris
7. Mega Man 2
8. Final Fantasy IV
9. Sonic the Hedgehog
10. Street Fighter II
11. Super Metroid
12. Super Mario Kart
13. Pac-Man
14. Final Fantasy
15. Donkey Kong Country
16. Donkey Kong
17. Metroid
18. Mega Man 3
19. The Secret of Monkey Island
20. Ninja Gaiden

Nothing too much to comment on. SFFd Super Metroid and SFFd Mario Kart did about as well as you'd expect. Zelda 3 somehow managed to hoist itself above Mario 3 in vote totals, but also went below Mario World. Hmmmm...

Okay, as far as the people who want to put me on ignore, well, vote totals tell me a whole lot. Without them, I wouldn't have called Sonic 1's match right. Further more, I've read every explanation about every contest match, and it made me seem like vote totals were to be focused on more than percentages, and they more or less tell strength. And the analysis I'm about to do now helps me to know how much SFF/LFF an entrant suffers.

Sonic 1 was a bit obvious after round 1, people just hang on to the possibility of SFF. Also if vote totals matter so much why isn't Sonic 2 in second here?

God, Super Metroid and Mario Kart are looking absolutely pathetic. If there were any doubts on whether Mario Kart (and Metroid, of course) is (are) SFF-prone (or, if nothing else, casual bait that gets dropped when more casual bait comes in), they've ended here.

Or Link to the Past is just that much better than those games and that four-pack was weaker than LttP/DKC's.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168

As far as why Sonic 2 isn't in 2nd despite the VOTE TOTALS telling us so, well, Link's Awakening would SFF it, and 5k votes can easily be made up in (r?)SFF. Of course, I didn't expect a killing this bad. You know what, next contest, I won't post any vote total stats and I'll just keep them locked up in a document. I hope that makes me less annoying (though I will still do that this contest).

Another thing I've noticed is how Super Metroid has had two very close matches in a row which it managed to win. That reminds me of 2002 Samus, and also makes me wonder whether Super Metroid is like Chrono Trigger or Metal Gear Solid in that its hardcore fans can make it eke out a close win if a match comes down to the wire. Who knows?

Alright, time for the next match. This is my favorite division in regards to the games, but my least favorite in terms of predictability. Both of these matches are easy to predict, and it shows. Anyways, this match has two games that deserve to win the whole contest, and one of them is the favorite to win! By golly, what has this division come to? I think this will be a 40-30-20-10 match. Final Fantasy VII takes an easy first with STF (not that it needs it!) and methinks GoldenEye will take 2nd place. As for the match between Super Mario RPG and Mario Kart 64, MK64 has the advantages of being more mainstream and SMRPG having another Square title in the match, but Mario Kart 64 has to share votes with another N64 party game, and is generally a much less liked title on this site than GoldenEye and SMRPG. Now, thanks to N64 multiplayer LFF, I probably wouldn't be so surprised if SMRPG gets 2nd place, but methinks GoldenEye has 2nd place easily. As for my vote, Final Fantasy VII has an epic story and deserves to win, but I've got to hand it GoldenEye, since it was one of the first big multiplayer games on a console, and has loads of replayability.

Prediction: Final Fantasy VII > GoldenEye
GoldenEye - 30%, Super Mario RPG - 20%, Final Fantasy VII - 40%, Mario Kart 64 - 10%
Bracket: Final Fantasy VII > GoldenEye
Favorites: GoldenEye > Final Fantasy VII
Favorites Bracket: GoldenEye > Final Fantasy VII

Currently, I have 121 points in my bracket and 127 in predictions. If current trends continue, I will have 125 points in my bracket and 135 in predictions.

GoldenEye - 30%, Super Mario RPG - 20%, Final Fantasy VII - 40%, Mario Kart 64 - 10%

GoldenEye for top 10 game!

Also MK64 will be close to SMRPG, if not win.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168

As far as why Sonic 2 isn't in 2nd despite the VOTE TOTALS telling us so, well, Link's Awakening would SFF it, and 5k votes can easily be made up in (r?)SFF.

Looking at SMB3/Sonic 1 I don't believe that there is any SFF here. You need to learn that all matches aren't equal in strength. In theory they should, but they're not.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168

If you really want to use vote totals, I suggest looking at the total votes for the match, subtracting 100,000, and then dividing the rest proportionally to the percentages each game got. This will probably still yield really bad results, but my guess is it would be much better than what you're doing now.
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Wouldn't that give the same results except with lower vote totals?
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168

You know, I feel somewhat vindicated by having MMX advance to round three here instead of Sonic 2, even though LA is advancing. At least I got it half right!
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FF7: 40%
Goldeneye: 24%
MK64: 21%
Mario RPG: 15%

No, the thing is the difference between the strongest games and the weakest games is only 20,000-30,000 votes. Any poll, no matter how weak the games, will probably be able to get that first 100,000 votes. By subtracting that 100,000 away, we should be able to put on a much better scale the differences in votals between matches explained by differences in strength- if such a relationship exists.
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Sonic 2 is getting Mega Drive leech'd by Mortal Kombat. I'd beat MMX one on one comfortably.
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Or in other words, the main problem with using vote totals is that they are incredibly dependent on the strength of other games in the poll: Mario Kart 64 had low votals because it was in the same poll as FFVII. This subtracting 100,000 votes thing is an attempt to get rid of that problem. I haven't tried it yet to see if it produces halfway decent results, but there's a chance.
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No, the thing is the difference between the strongest games and the weakest games is only 20,000-30,000 votes. Any poll, no matter how weak the games, will probably be able to get that first 100,000 votes. By subtracting that 100,000 away, we should be able to put on a much better scale the differences in votals between matches explained by differences in strength- if such a relationship exists.

FFVI - 5271
LA - 4126
MMX - 3241
PS4 - 522

Sonic 2 - 2899
MK2 - 2338
SoM - 2026
SF2 - 504

FFVI - 5271 - 36.02%
LA - 4126 - 28.19%
Sonic 2 - 2899 - 19.81%
MK2 - 2338 - 15.98%

Maybe you're right. It's at least better than what we originally had. Though the problem is some matches aren't created equal, even though vote totals show the opposite.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168

Hmmm...That's not too bad.
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Not bad at all....that projection would be getting....about 48 points in the Oracle as of now.
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So...maybe I'm doing this wrong, but would that put tomorrow's match at:

FFVII - 37.62%
MK64 - 16.11%
GE - 24.58%
SMRPG - 21.69%

'Cause I don't like that prediction at all.
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Well, it wouldn't account for LFF or SFF or anything like that. FFVII will do much better thanks to triple Nintendo LFF. I'm going to test this theory further and see if it produces a decent extrapolated standings list based on the first round matches.
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I think that prediction looks fine!

FF7 is going down.
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I'd be surprised if SMRPG beat MK64 unless there's some weird same console SFF
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Party game LFF will allow Mario RPG to get second place! Forget this Mario SFF stuff! That's tame compared to Party game LFF!
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Pfft, RPG LFF lets 007 take first! Party LFF and Mario LFF have nothing on RPG LFF, just look at FF/FFIV!

(Okay now we have to figure out FFVII/007 LFF)
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(Wait that one's obvious. 7 LFF!)
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Roman Numerals obviously have the advantage in 7 LFF!
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That vote total guy is the first person I've ever ignored.
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Maybe today's match was a coincedence. I've done all the matches that we've seen in round 2 and many are pretty far off, though SFF/LFF could be to blame.

Tetris - 7838 - 36.04%
Donkey Kong - 2896 - 13.32%
Mega Man 2 - 6175 - 28.40%
Pac-Man - 4837 - 22.24%

Pac-Man was probably SFF by Tetris

Super Mario Bros. - 10482 - 39.17%
Ninja Gaiden - 1870 - 6.99%
The Legend of Zelda - 11047 - 41.29%
Metroid - 3358 - 12.55%

Metroid was hit by more SFF, also this predicts LoZ > SMB

Sonic the Hedgehog - 4977 - 20.51%
Street Fighter II - 3988 - 16.43%
Super Mario Bros. 3 - 13565 - 55.89%
The Secret of Monky Island - 1740 - 7.17%

Makes me wonder why SMB3 perform so badly

Super Mario World - 16433 - 42.66%
Final Fantasy - 13197 - 34.26%
Final Fantasy II (IV) - 5238 - 13.60%
Mega Man 3 - 3650 - 9.48%

Here's the flaw of the system, sometimes you get randomly high vote totals for no reason. You can't even blame Battletoads for this one.

Super Metroid - 5995 - 23.36%
Super Mario Kart - 5972 - 23.27%
LoZ: A Link to the Past - 10375 - 40.43%
Donkey Kong Country - 3323 - 12.95%

Lol Nintendofest

Final Fantasy III (VI) - 5270 - 36.02%
LoZ: Link's Awakening - 4126 - 28.19%
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - 2899 - 19.81%
Mortal Kombat II - 2338 - 15.98%

Doing pretty well

GoldenEye 007 - 8427 - 22.57%
Super Mario RPG - 7432 - 19.91%
Final Fantasy VII - 15035 - 40.27%
Mario Kart 64 - 6438 - 17.24%

Flip RPG and 64 and subtract a few percent from everyone and give it to FFVII and you get my prediction.
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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168

Speaking of randomly high/low vote totals take a look at this round 3 match...

Tetris - 669 - 5.18%
Mega Man 2 - 543 - 4.20%
Super Mario Bros - . 6403 - 49.59%
The Legend of Zelda - 5299 - 41.03%

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BGE2 - Today's Match: FFVI > Sonic 2 Points: 117/168

that would be an awesome match
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Alright, I calculated "Votal-Stats" for all the games based on their first round performances. I ended up subtracting 95,000 instead of 100,000 from the total votes because of a couple matches with really low votals. To calculate the projected percentages on OOT, I simply took the votal result I got for a game and for OOT and pretended they were in a 1v1 match together. The results are.....not horrible, but not very good either.

Name V-stats
Ocarina of Time 50.00
Super Mario World 47.11
Final Fantasy VII 45.83
Super Mario Bros. 3 45.22
Final Fantasy 41.69
The Legend of Zelda 40.16
Super Mario Bros. 39.99
Chrono Trigger 39.03
A Link to the Past 38.54
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow 38.28
Final Fantasy X 38.19
Twilight Princess 37.41
Super Smash Bros. Brawl 36.90
Resident Evil 4 36.41
Kingdom Hearts 36.41
Kingdom Hearts 2 36.03
Final Fantasy VIII 34.77
Metal Gear Solid 34.74
Super Mario 64 34.45
Super Smash Bros. Melee 34.36
Tetris 33.35
Goldeneye 007 32.72
Pokemon Gold/Silver 31.78
Super Mario RPG 30.02
Metal Gear Solid 3 28.55
Final Fantasy IX 28.39
Half-Life 2 28.32
Megaman 2 27.35
Metal Gear Solid 2 27.25
Final Fantasy IV 26.99
Super Metroid 26.96
Super Mario Kart 26.88
Mario Kart 64 26.59
Final Fantasy XII 26.55
Vice City 26.46
Majora's Mask 26.10
Final Fantasy VI 25.70
Sonic the Hedgehog 25.51
Starcraft 25.29
Metroid Prime 24.85
Final Fantasy Tactics 24.65
Grand Theft Auto 4 24.56
Call of Duty 4 24.08
Resident Evil 2 23.78
Shadow of the Colossus 23.51
Diablo II 23.39
Oblivion 23.26
Pac-Man 22.77
Metal Gear Solid 4 22.36
Halo 22.33
Tales of Symphonia 22.05
God of War 21.92
Knights of the Old Republic 21.53
Street Fighter II 21.53
Wind Waker 21.50
World of Warcraft 21.35
Link's Awakening 21.31
Half-Life 21.30
Yoshi's Island 21.28
Battletoads 21.22
Symphony of the Night 20.95
San Andreas 20.94
Megaman 3 20.48
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 20.26
Super Mario Galaxy 20.15
Halo 2 19.75
Grand Theft Auto 3 19.75
Resident Evil 2 19.24
Oregon Trail 18.82
Morrowind 18.80
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 18.48
Star Fox 64 18.23
Gears of War 17.75
Okami 17.56
Megaman X 17.54
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl 17.18
Paper Mario 17.14
Metroid 16.95
Donkey Kong Country 16.73
Doom 16.35
Chrono Cross 16.10
Soul Calibur 15.75
Donkey Kong 15.60
Mortal Kombat II 15.45
Pong 15.18
Earthbound 15.05
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 14.84
Punch-Out 14.29
Street Fighter IV 14.26
Persona 4 14.25
Portal 14.23
Disgaea 14.02
Secret of Mana 13.67
Bioshock 13.54
Xenogears 13.45
Perfect Dark 12.53
Contra 12.21
Fallout 3 11.88
Kirby Super Star 11.34
Donkey Kong Country 2 11.11
Silent Hill 2 10.83
Ninja Gaiden 10.62
Fire Emblem 10.48
Deux Ex 9.92
Team Fortress 2 9.86
Banjo-Kazooie 9.67
Secret of Monkey Island 9.58
Suikoden 9.55
Duck Hunt 9.11
Halo 3 8.82
SimCity 8.79
Streets of Rage 2 8.39
Dragon Warrior III 7.50
Space Invaders 7.47
Civilization 7.46
LittleBigPlanet 7.12
Castlevania III 6.86
River City Ransom 6.84
Left 4 Dead 6.83
Prince of Persia 6.58
Tecmo Super Bowl 5.71
Galaga 5.58
Gunstar Heroes 5.20
Mass Effect 5.10
Lufia II 4.58
Shining Force 2 3.79
Phantasy Star IV 3.32
Crystalis 2.84